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Strong Support from our Ally Greece ...

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Postby Oracle » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:09 am

Bananiot wrote:George Papandreou is no twit. He has inherited Greece's problems mainly from the previous government. At the time he made the statement Gasman referred to, probably he had no clear indication of Greece's financial woos. George Papandreou, as Foreign Minister in the Simitis government, orchestrated the Greek help to the Turkish people struck by the huge earthquake, causing severe trembles in the ranks of Greek and Greek Cypriot nationalists. George Papandreou demonstrated on numerous occasions that he stands for Greek-Turkish friendship, and for this he has been called various names, by Greek and Greek Cypriot nationalists. He was even accused because he danced a zeimpekiko with the late Turkish Foreign Minister, Cem. George Papandreou, with his broad view of Greek - Turkish relations, is scorned by the likes of Oracle and all Greek Cypriot fascists and this is quite understandable. If I were a fascist I would hate him too.

BUT, when I hear Turkish people scorn Papandreou, I say shame on you, ντροπή, ayip! (Or is it utanc?)


Why do you childishly cling to assigning people to "football teams"? Where have I ever poured scorn on George Papandreou? Unlike you, I allow people to run their course and prove themselves, before deciding if they fit into some mold!
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:43 am

That is very noble of you DT, it is the right way to go about it, but ... half of it is in, because of these people.
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:53 am

I thought this was a thread about Dimitris Droutsas, not George Papandreou.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:00 pm

It's not about any one individual; he was speaking as a representative.

The strongest support we receive against our plight in Cyprus, comes from Greece.

Greece is our main ally, and we should never forget our friends!
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:01 pm

My god Gasman, you changes it to a thread about the "actual" Foreign Minister, in your very first post in this thread.

But, what does Greece's 'actual' Foreign Minister have to say on the matter? That would carry a lot more weight.


the Greek government has at no point in time demanded direct financial support from its EU partners, nor will it call for this. We are convinced that we can deal with this on our own.
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Postby DT. » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:05 pm

Bananiot wrote:My god Gasman, you changes it to a thread about the "actual" Foreign Minister, in your very first post in this thread.

But, what does Greece's 'actual' Foreign Minister have to say on the matter? That would carry a lot more weight.


the Greek government has at no point in time demanded direct financial support from its EU partners, nor will it call for this. We are convinced that we can deal with this on our own.


prehaps he doesn't know the pm is also the fm.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:25 pm

DT. wrote:
Bananiot wrote:My god Gasman, you changes it to a thread about the "actual" Foreign Minister, in your very first post in this thread.

But, what does Greece's 'actual' Foreign Minister have to say on the matter? That would carry a lot more weight.


the Greek government has at no point in time demanded direct financial support from its EU partners, nor will it call for this. We are convinced that we can deal with this on our own.


prehaps he doesn't know the pm is also the fm.

What? do we have an fm facility in this forum, I thought we just had a pm facility.
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Re: Strong Support from our Ally Greece ...

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:35 pm

Oracle wrote:Let's regain some sense of balance, and remind ourselves as to who is our main ally in resolving the Cyprus Problem.

Since when have you been able to analyze, comprehend, and make logical deductions? :?

Greece was a constant nuisance to Cyprus throughout the 19th and especially 20th century, with her nonstop embezzlement of the true identity of Cyprus which included the brainwashing of thousands of Cypriot citizens, culminating in the 15th of July 1974 overthrowing of the democratically elected government of Cyprus, the murder of many Cypriots and the paving of the way for the Turkish invasion and occupation!

Greece CONSPIRED with Turkey to partition Cyprus into two racist halves that would serve her and Turkey at the Cypriot people’s expense! It just doesn’t get any more treacherous than that!

And as if all that wasn’t enough, today Cyprus finds herself in a situation where she has to foster this sick failed experiment of Europe… the black sheep of black sheep… the most useless and unreliable of entities… second only to the “TRNC”!

Yet today, mentally perverse Greeks like yourself have the audacity to call bankrupt Greece an “ally” of Cyprus when all she qualifies for is a virus-infested blood sucking tick!
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:33 pm

Not quite so, GR. It is always heartening to put the blame on others but I am sorry to tell you that the main culprit in this case is us, GC's, who on numerous occasions we pointed an accusing finger at Greece for giving us, rational, sound advice to behave ourselves. Especially during the period of 1950 - 1954. Similarly, Turkey had prompted us towards the right direction, especially in the very early 60's, but you see, we had a different agenda. One of grandeur and adherence to a rather mythical past to which any tiny pocket of people can easily be let to want to be part of, instead of being occupants of a rather insignificant rock in the south eastermost part of the Mediterranean.
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Postby Gasman » Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:28 pm

It's not about any one individual; he was speaking as a representative.


The PM is also the actual FM


OK, but - can someone clear this up for me?

Dimitris Droutsas is neither the Greek PM or the actual FM?

Whatever he is (or isn't) - he is the person I attributed the quotes above to.

It's OK for O to say this is not 'about individuals' but then you could paste in a speech from ANYONE and say it carried weight. It does rather depend on WHO was saying it and in what 'official' capacity he said it!

If it was meant to carry weight - why didn't the President, Prime Minister or actual Foreign Minister say it themselves?

I know what I mean anyway - even if no one else does lol!
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