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[Kifeas]

As representing the whole of the island.

I doesn't represnt the whole island? This fact is already accepted by the entire world, the UN and the EU.

Capitulatition of the idea of a federal state.

The idea of a federal state is a political issue that has to be decited by the people of Cyprus. There is already an agreement between the two communities, since 1975, to work and negotiate on this basis. The people of Cyprus and the leaderships of the two communities will decide if the RoC will continue as a unitary state or if it will be transformed into a Federation. This issue is none of Turkey's business. It is an internal affair of the people of Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

Dont get your hopes up Turkey wont recognise the south and nothing will change, Turkey would be shooting herself in the foot otherwise, no solution = no recognition....

[magikthrill]

The french prime minister is acting like a barking dog with no bite and all this is for show for the french public, but i say do what you have too Mr.Vilben and force Turkey to abondon the E.U.

alas EU membership is official Turkish polic according to Erdogan and somehow I don't think the majority of Turks feel the same way as you frere. Maybe on the outside but we all know they're all dying to be part of our elitist segregation union

[Kifeas]

Dont get your hopes up Turkey wont recognise the south and nothing will change, Turkey would be shooting herself in the foot otherwise, no solution = no recognition....

It is true that by recognising the RoC, you are indirectly admitting the obvious, which is the fact that your country is occupying the territory of Cyprus, an EU member country!

[Viewpoint]

Dont get your hopes up Turkey wont recognise the south and nothing will change, Turkey would be shooting herself in the foot otherwise, no solution = no recognition....

It is true that by recognising the RoC, you are indirectly admitting the obvious, which is the fact that your country is occupying the territory of Cyprus, an EU member country!

so whats the liklihood of them doing that?? Id say zero

[Kifeas]

Dont get your hopes up Turkey wont recognise the south and nothing will change, Turkey would be shooting herself in the foot otherwise, no solution = no recognition....

It is true that by recognising the RoC, you are indirectly admitting the obvious, which is the fact that your country is occupying the territory of Cyprus, an EU member country!

so whats the liklihood of them doing that?? Id say zero

Soon or late you will have to admit it!

[erolz]

If Turkey recognizes the Greek Cypriot admininstration as it is, what will be left to solve in Cyprus? Wouldnt that mean a complete capitulation for TCs and Turkey?

What do you mean by "as it is?"

Is that a serious question Kifeas? What it means is recognise a purely GC run Cyprus and legitimate vs recgonising it as what it is - a pruely GC run administration that represent purely GC interests.

Capitulation to what?

Again is that a serious question? Clearly what you want is for Turkey to legitimse the GC illegal and unconsitutional seizure of all power in Cyprus that started in 63 was reaffirmed by GC in 65 and that they refused to agree a compromise over in the period 65-74. If that is your 'negotiating' position why should TC noegotiating position wanting legitimisation of everything after 74. Both are equally maximalist and unacceptable demands.

Is this all some kind of joke? Do GC really think that we, Turkey and everyone else is really so stupid to think that it's demands for full poltical recognition of the RoC as it exists today and without and agreed settlement or requirment for one is anything other than a maximalist demand for total capitulation of TC/T on the Cyprus issue. Get real or we risk once again losing any realistic chance of a settlement in Cyprus!

[Kifeas]

The french prime minister is acting like a barking dog with no bite and all this is for show for the french public, but i say do what you have too Mr.Vilben and force Turkey to abondon the E.U.

What kind of dog is this Vilben?

Some say he looks like a Doberman, some others that he looks like a Bulldog. What do you think brother?

[Viewpoint]

Dont get your hopes up Turkey wont recognise the south and nothing will change, Turkey would be shooting herself in the foot otherwise, no solution = no recognition....

It is true that by recognising the RoC, you are indirectly admitting the obvious, which is the fact that your country is occupying the territory of Cyprus, an EU member country!

so whats the liklihood of them doing that?? Id say zero

Soon or late you will have to admit it!

With pleasure after a solution, whether it be uniıted or divided as 2 countries...

[Bananiot]

Kifeas wrote

French rigid warnings to Turkey!
from "Politis" newspaper.

France warned Turkey today (02/08/05) that it will exercise pressure for Ankara to recognize the Republic of Cyprus, as a condition for her EU accession negotiations to open up in October.

French Prime Minister Dominique De Vilben clarified in a radiobroadcasting interview that “it is inconceivable for such an accession procedure to begin, with a country that doesn’t recognize every member of the EU, all 25 members.”

“There is a principle which seems to me that needs to be safeguarded, and France will make it clear to Turkey, as well as to the other EU members, during our upcomming meetings,” he added.

Asked to comment whether it will be possible for the EU not to open Turkey’s accession negotiations on the 3rd of October, Mr. De Vilben stressed, “but of course, I think these issues should be made clear.”

You should also be aware that the Secretary of the European Commision made a mockery of the statement made by De Vilben. He said that the matter of recognition has to do with the UN and not the EE.