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[-mikkie2-]

The only way I see for Turkey to get out of the legal quagmire she has got herself into is to renounce the existance of the 'trnc' and revert to the status pre-1983.

The only path that will work for everyone is the evolution of the Republic of Cyprus into a new state of affairs. The current events consign the virgin birth approach to solution into the trashcan.

It is a fact that up to 2000 Turkish and Turkish Cypriot companies are lining up to register themselves in the Republic of Cyprus. The people that will suffer and pay a heavy price will be the Turkish Cypriots and I hope that they start to realise that Turkey does not have the best interests of the Turkish Cypriots in mind but the interests of Turkey. Even then they are shooting themselves in the foot by dragging this problem even further.

[MicAtCyp]

The people that will suffer and pay a heavy price will be the Turkish Cypriots and I hope that they start to realise that Turkey does not have the best interests of the Turkish Cypriots in mind but the interests of Turkey. Even then they are shooting themselves in the foot by dragging this problem even further.

The same way the GCs were scratching their heads to understand why Greece sold them, this time the TCs will start scratching their heads why Turkey "sold" them . Nobody cares for you guys like nobody cares for us.Greece even tried to get rid of us with the Anan Plan.Karamanlis went to Lucerne and was complaimimg to his driver "why they brought me here, why do they bother me, what do I have to do with this" and then spent his time playing tavli/backgammon at the hotel.
The opening of the games was their order to prove Denktashes lies. They knew nothing would happen, they were not stupid, they already had their information.Like they have now. All they cared was to Keep Cyprus for exchange with Aegean.Now this card is old they will exchange it with something else.

[magikthrill]

Karamanlis went to Lucerne and was complaimimg to his driver "why they brought me here, why do they bother me, what do I have to do with this" and then spent his time playing tavli/backgammon at the hotel.

so first its a problem when greece intervenes and then its a problem when greece doesnt care? i think karmanlis has the right attitude. GCs are finally responsible for their own destiny (moreorless)

[Bananiot]

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"Negotiating means accepting each other as negotiating partners. The negotiating partners of Turkey would be all 25 EU-member states. How can Turkey negotiate its accession to the EU without recognising one of its members?" said Hans-Gert Poettering, chairman of the conservative EPP group in the European Parliament.

Turkey is obliged to recognise Cyprus and this has been made our number 1 strategic issue. With the blessings of the important nations Turkey signed on Friday night but declared at the same time that it does not recognise Cyprus. Yet, Turkey is obliged to recognise Cyprus so this is no big deal really. However, it is plain obvious that recognition will be delayed until the very last minute, when Turkey is ready to enter the EE. This could take a further 20 or so years. Anyone can see that now Turkey has no motive to solve the Cyprus problem. The motive will appear again in 20 years. I am afraid there will be no problem to be solved then ...

[brother]

So are we all going to be gullable sheep and pretend that tassos did not know this was going to go down like this?

[KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH]

Tassos is the one person who stood up for our rights.

1) Right of Return of Refugees (All Sides).
2) Repatriation of all Settlers.
3) Removal of Turkish Army.

[brother]

Tassos is the one person who stood up for our rights.

1) Right of Return of Refugees (All Sides).
2) Repatriation of all Settlers.
3) Removal of Turkish Army.

That is wishful thinking, when he met with Blair last week he knew what was going down well before that, but i guess if you want to pretend otherwise that is your choice.

[KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH]

Tassos is the one person who stood up for our rights.

1) Right of Return of Refugees (All Sides).
2) Repatriation of all Settlers.
3) Removal of Turkish Army.

That is wishful thinking, when he met with Blair last week he knew what was going down well before that, but i guess if you want to pretend otherwise that is your choice.

Why is it wishful thinking, don't you agree withit?

[erolz]

Turkey is obliged to recognise Cyprus and this has been made our number 1 strategic issue. With the blessings of the important nations Turkey signed on Friday night but declared at the same time that it does not recognise Cyprus. Yet, Turkey is obliged to recognise Cyprus so this is no big deal really. However, it is plain obvious that recognition will be delayed until the very last minute, when Turkey is ready to enter the EE. This could take a further 20 or so years. Anyone can see that now Turkey has no motive to solve the Cyprus problem. The motive will appear again in 20 years. I am afraid there will be no problem to be solved then ...

I would say Turkey has no motive to solve the Cyprus problem without it being in tandem and concurrent with it's accession objectives and that this dual process is indeed set to take 10,15 or 20 years. We could of course chose as Cypriots to settle the issue ourselves before then, but this is unlikely to happen imo while there is a stong belief that GC can gain their objectives without having to make any major concessions from their maximal demands if they tie it to Turkey's accession process -as seems to be the current strategy. Pretty much the same view then as what you seem to be saying - as I understand it.

[brother]

I have no prob. with ROR its that tassos is for partition and this is all part of the greater plan hence why tassos was meeting with denktas junior in secret at his home with noones knowledge.