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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:28 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:I came across these words from a very young member of the YFred clan.

Birleşik bir Kıbrıs'ta doğmadım!!

Çocukken bana okulda Rumların benim düşmanim olduklarını öğrettiler.. Kimse bana
söylemedi ki Kıbrıslı Rumlar benim kardeşlerimdir.. Kimse bana söylemedi ki Türkler de
hatalar yaptılar!! Ama gerçekler yavaş yavaş ortaya çıkıyor..

Benim düşmanım sadece emperyalizm.. milliyetçilik..faşizm..
Amerika,İngiltere,Türkiye,Yunanistan, faşistler... KİMSE barışa engel OLAMAZ!!
Çalsalar da ekmeğimizi, kapsalar da toprağımızı, bu vatan bizim..bu yürekler boyun eğmez..
bu yürekler gücümüz ve yüreklerimizi sana adadık Kıbrısımız.. bunları hesaba katın!!
Ne olur olursa ben Birleşik bir Kıbrıs'ta öleceğim!!!

Perhaps somebody can translate it for our GC cousins.

The younger generation is awake.



Perhaps we can learn from the young.


Here is the translation.
I was not born in a united Cyprus.

As a child when I was at school, I was taught that GCs were my enemy.
Nobody told me that they are my brothers/Sisters. Nobody told me the Turks made mistakes too. But the truth is slowly slowly coming out.

My Enemy is not just Imperialism, Nationalism, Fascism,
America, England, Turkey, Greece the fascists None can prevent peace.

Even if they steal our bread, grab our land, this land is ours, our hearts will not bow,
These hearts our strength and we donate to you our Cyprus, take this into account.
When ever happens I will die in a united Cyprus.




The boy who wrote these words is called Barış/Peace which is the second child in the clan called that. The first one belongs to another clan member and devotes all his free time to fight for justice in custody deaths.


May his dreams come true.........I am sure you will give him a helping hand
.and its good night from me.
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Postby YFred » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:32 am

Speak Tomorrow Deniz. Good night.
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I want your stories...

Postby conemmanuelle » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:49 am

Thanks Miltiades (my father's name too) for your response...
If you wish, you can send all your stories / recollections to my email:

[email protected]

I am in the process of setting up a blog and facebook account.
Feel free to pass on this email to anyone who remembers the past, between 1920 and 1950...

Cheers
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:54 am

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Postby wyoming cowboy » Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:02 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:I came across these words from a very young member of the YFred clan.

Birleşik bir Kıbrıs'ta doğmadım!!

Çocukken bana okulda Rumların benim düşmanim olduklarını öğrettiler.. Kimse bana
söylemedi ki Kıbrıslı Rumlar benim kardeşlerimdir.. Kimse bana söylemedi ki Türkler de
hatalar yaptılar!! Ama gerçekler yavaş yavaş ortaya çıkıyor..

Benim düşmanım sadece emperyalizm.. milliyetçilik..faşizm..
Amerika,İngiltere,Türkiye,Yunanistan, faşistler... KİMSE barışa engel OLAMAZ!!
Çalsalar da ekmeğimizi, kapsalar da toprağımızı, bu vatan bizim..bu yürekler boyun eğmez..
bu yürekler gücümüz ve yüreklerimizi sana adadık Kıbrısımız.. bunları hesaba katın!!
Ne olur olursa ben Birleşik bir Kıbrıs'ta öleceğim!!!

Perhaps somebody can translate it for our GC cousins.

The younger generation is awake.



Perhaps we can learn from the young.


Here is the translation.
I was not born in a united Cyprus.

As a child when I was at school, I was taught that GCs were my enemy.
Nobody told me that they are my brothers/Sisters. Nobody told me the Turks made mistakes too. But the truth is slowly slowly coming out.

My Enemy is not just Imperialism, Nationalism, Fascism,
America, England, Turkey, Greece the fascists None can prevent peace.

Even if they steal our bread, grab our land, this land is ours, our hearts will not bow,
These hearts our strength and we donate to you our Cyprus, take this into account.
When ever happens I will die in a united Cyprus.




The boy who wrote these words is called Barış/Peace which is the second child in the clan called that. The first one belongs to another clan member and devotes all his free time to fight for justice in custody deaths.
So there is some hope for a united Cyprus
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Postby miltiades » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:42 am

denizaksulu wrote:.
The relationships between the two communities was very cordial. We attended each others weddings, greeted each other at easter or bayrams (moslem festivals). Travelled all over the island to attend Panayiris/ Kataklysmos too.

That says it all . Deniz and I are both 64 years young . Although we did not know each other until we met on the CF we are living proof that our people interacted and lived peacefuly together long before the intercommunal conflicts were ignited. A proof of our mutual respect , understanding and love of our common denominator , the island of Cyprus our mutual motherland.

My earlier recollections of our compatriots , the T/Cs , go back to that dreadful date of September 10th 1953 when my village was destroyed by the earthquake. Amongst the victims the young wife of a T/C policeman who had only just moved to the Stroumbi Police station . No animosity whatsoever existed amongst the villagers who were G/Cs exclusively .

As Deniz said our games as children consisted mostly of PIRILLI - Marbles , Ligri , scatoullika , we would mould using mud the shape of a car that was completely new to us all those years ago .
Village life was concentrated mostly in the kafenia for men and the "outside" of house where women would gather and chat , us kids playing .
There was no electricity or running water , those lucky enough to be the proud owners of a hole in the ground were few most of us just found a quite corner and in the absence of toilet paper a good clean stone was more than suitable !!
Village life was simple , the villagers mostly farmers worked the fields daily and tended to their animals and chickens that provided the almost only meat available as well as the eggs . Goats milk was a valuable product providing us the most popular food the now world famous Halloumi which along with olives , bread , onions , koutchia , fasolia , revithia and other pulses provided our daily intake of food.

Weddings were the highlights of the village starting on Friday and ending on Monday. The entire village would attend the ceremonial procedures starting on Friday with the preparation of Resi which involved laying out on cloths the wheat which had previously been washed and rhythmically pounded using a flat heavy wooden spatula type , whose name I forget , normally by two villagers sitting at opposite ends to the accompaniment of the Violaris !!
The entire process would take hours after which the big cooking pots - kazania - would be placed on open fire and the the Resi would be prepared using the fat of Pork !!!
The Vgioli and Laouto was or rather were the centrepiece of the wedding celebrations , no wedding would go ahead without the Vgiolaris , and of course the bride and groom !!
The event provided an opportunity for the "SKAPOULOS" bachelor boys , to show off their dancing skills and attract the females from around the neighbouring villages attending the wedding.
For us kids it was a very joyous occasion indulging in games and naughtiness as children do although in Stroumbi there lived a man , a giant of a man known throughout the village and surrounding ones as O Patsogiorgis !! Feared by all for his ferocious temper ignited by naughty and loud children , it was as if Patsogiorgis had a licence to discipline unruly children , a sort of a paramilitary policeman that no one dared challenge , and no one complained either, his reputation and integrity " ANTHROPIA " was respected by all , he was my grandmothers brother and was born in Theletra . His oldest ...child died last year aged 94 ..
The criteria of evaluating a familys position in the village was quite simple
either as a landowner but above all it was the integrity and self respect that scored the highest. ANTHROPIA was a jealously guarded virtue without which a man would be at a disadvantage , a mans word was his bond a handshake all that was needed . Alas though innocent villagers would be exploited by the greed of the one family who controlled trade in the village..More later ..

Another highlight was the coming now and then of KARAGIOZI , more of that later...
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Postby conemmanuelle » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:18 am

Thankyou once again
your recollections are invaluable
more please
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:52 am

I remember Karagiozi at the local kaffenio, it was the highlight of a saturday evening.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jun 08, 2010 7:43 pm

Gasman said:"I've hear that that's what the 'Brits did for you'. "

This is a typical rationalisation of mainland Greeks to explain away why Cyprus is more advanced than Greece in some areas. The truth is that real progress was made in Cyprus AFTER independence. There is a phrase in Cypriot which I mentioned before- "pese banketto pezevenghi" spoken by oncoming drivers to each other. It meant tha tthe other guy should drive off the narrow paved roads built by the British to accomodate their military trucks and nothing else.

ANyway, to some recollections from the 50s.

December was the time of pig slaughtering. Almost every family in my grnadfather's village had one or two pigs housed in the backyard with the other animals and fed on household scraps and agricultural waste. The pigs would be slaughteres in the winter and it was a big deal because a lot had to be done in a short time- sausages, luntza and hams had to be soaked in wine and then smoked and the head and feet turned into zalatina. Whatever meat was left over would be eaten before it spoiled and this coincided with Christmas and a little later with the Carnival festivities.

Carnival was the time when kids and teenagers would go around the village masked, often performing impromptu sketches at the front door of houses. One such sketch was memorable. Two kids dressed as medical orderlies brought a "pregnant" woman who was moaning. A "doctor" holding a flashlight lifted the bedclothes, pushed his hand in and fished around and withdrew it holding a trussed live chicken! The performances rated rewards, similar to the halloween trick or treat custom in the USA.

Our games in addition to marbles included seasonal games like spinning tops, (svoura) in the autumn, pen knife games (chakkoui) in the winter, kite flying (petasi) in the spring, and when old enough everyone would have a bicycle and be mobile. A green Ralaeigh with three gears was the fashion, and for us in Famagusta there were boat rentals (four shilling an hour) and fishing on the rocks near Constantia.

When we were old enough, about 12 or 13, we would secretly (no parental permission) venture further afield on our bicycles. We would bike it to Salamis and explore the eucalyptus grove around the ancient site. On one of these trips we found a pile of sporrans. Yes, sporrans, the leather pouches worn by Scottish kilted men, in the middle of Salamis forest. To this day it is a mystery what a pile of sporrans were doing in Salamis. Perhaps they were shed in a drunken celebration by the Highlanders when they heard the fight with EOKA was over, who knows!
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Postby RichardB » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:01 pm

Nikitas wrote

December was the time of pig slaughtering. Almost every family in my grnadfather's village had one or two pigs housed in the backyard with the other animals and fed on household scraps and agricultural waste. The pigs would be slaughteres in the winter and it was a big deal because a lot had to be done in a short time- sausages, luntza and hams had to be soaked in wine and then smoked and the head and feet turned into zalatina. Whatever meat was left over would be eaten before it spoiled and this coincided with Christmas and a little later with the Carnival festivities.


Brings back good memories Nikitas.

This was happening even in the late 70s in the mountain villages.

Bambos the local butcher had his work cut out. 3-4 would hold the beast whist he did the business. (No EU regs regarding the slaughter in those days)

I too remember the whole kitchen being filled with hanging hams , Lukanika, smoked belly pork for the baon and all those you mentioned. All would be naturally smoked from the log fire in the kitchen.

I can still taste those lukanica, the meat having been marinated in the wine/brine for I think a month, the shop bought ones of today just don't compare.

All the above were prepared 'in house' by the Mother and Father in law

I recently made some Zaladina using the trotters (unfortunately I couldn't get a pigs head (the cheeks being particularly tasty) it wasnt too bad at all but certainly could not compare with my Mother in Laws.

Thanks for the memories :)
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