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[denizaksulu]

If Turkey engages in war with aliens threating our planet, we would side with the aliens ... plonkers!

Just think of it as Israel and Cyprus joining forces against a mutual enemy - the terrorist nation of Turkey for the benefit of global and regional security.

Admit it Bananiot! If Israel gets so pissed off and then lashes out at Turkey altering the balance in Cyprus, then you would fly the Israeli flag the very next day.

My fellow Cypriots, it is time to develop new alliances.

Paphitis, you have to realise by now that Azrail has bitten off more than it can chew. I would not bet on Azrail attacking any escort ships in international waters.

Let's be realistic Deniz. The disguised Turkish MIT "activists" attacked the IDF boarding party and the IDF was forced to defend itself against Turkish aggression.

Are you saying that when the TA 'invaded' Cyprus the GCs had NO right to defend themselves.? I am surprised at you

Deniz, you can only get so much political milage from the fact that the IDF intercepted and boarded the flotilla in International Waters. I think you will find that some countries, Australia amongst them, have been doing just that for decades, mostly without incident.

Now, we have seen the released footage. "Activists" were clubbing IDF soldiers, 2 were thrown into a life boat, some were stabbed with
knives, and there were some gunshots heard. Do you honestly believe that the IDF would just sit idle and not react? Do you honestly believe the IDF will apologise for breaking International Law and leave after their soldiers were clubbed, stabbed and shot at? I don't think so!

I know the Azrailites. They wont apologise. We have seen in the past their bloody minded attitude towards the Palestinians. How easily the Chatilla massacres of the Palestinians are forgotten. The breaking of arms of young Palestinian boys, your brave IDF shelling civilians with such brutality, who forgets them? The activists on these boats had had enough warning and knew what to expect. They were determined to stop this piracy by the IDF. What gunshots? You believe the Azrailis you will believe anything. They cocked up big time, now they are squirming their way out of it. They will succeed only because of the Americans. Fancy the yanks telling the Azrailis to conduct their own investigation. I dont know why they should bother. Perhaps it was prepared before they began dropping onto the ships. Damn them all.

Deniz, did you see the footage? Are you saying it was fabricated?

I do not forget about Israel's crimes. How could I?

But let's leave the Israelis to one side for a second. Let's say a Turkish vessel is headed for Australian waters with illegal immigrants on board on what Turkey calls a mercy dash. The Turkish vessel is boarded by Australian Navy in International Waters and the Turkish Crew attack the boarding party. What do you believe will happen? Do you think there will be repercussions?

Yes I saw the edited footage. The azrailites will show you only what they want you to see Paphitis.
Wait till the all the people arrested are released, then you will et the full picture.

[YFred]

If Turkey engages in war with aliens threating our planet, we would side with the aliens ... plonkers!

Just think of it as Israel and Cyprus joining forces against a mutual enemy - the terrorist nation of Turkey for the benefit of global and regional security.

Admit it Bananiot! If Israel gets so pissed off and then lashes out at Turkey altering the balance in Cyprus, then you would fly the Israeli flag the very next day.

My fellow Cypriots, it is time to develop new alliances.

Paphitis, you have to realise by now that Azrail has bitten off more than it can chew. I would not bet on Azrail attacking any escort ships in international waters.

Let's be realistic Deniz. The disguised Turkish MIT "activists" attacked the IDF boarding party and the IDF was forced to defend itself against Turkish aggression.

Are you saying that when the TA 'invaded' Cyprus the GCs had NO right to defend themselves.? I am surprised at you

Deniz, you can only get so much political milage from the fact that the IDF intercepted and boarded the flotilla in International Waters. I think you will find that some countries, Australia amongst them, have been doing just that for decades, mostly without incident.

Now, we have seen the released footage. "Activists" were clubbing IDF soldiers, 2 were thrown into a life boat, some were stabbed with
knives, and there were some gunshots heard. Do you honestly believe that the IDF would just sit idle and not react? Do you honestly believe the IDF will apologise for breaking International Law and leave after their soldiers were clubbed, stabbed and shot at? I don't think so!

I know the Azrailites. They wont apologise. We have seen in the past their bloody minded attitude towards the Palestinians. How easily the Chatilla massacres of the Palestinians are forgotten. The breaking of arms of young Palestinian boys, your brave IDF shelling civilians with such brutality, who forgets them? The activists on these boats had had enough warning and knew what to expect. They were determined to stop this piracy by the IDF. What gunshots? You believe the Azrailis you will believe anything. They cocked up big time, now they are squirming their way out of it. They will succeed only because of the Americans. Fancy the yanks telling the Azrailis to conduct their own investigation. I dont know why they should bother. Perhaps it was prepared before they began dropping onto the ships. Damn them all.

Deniz, did you see the footage? Are you saying it was fabricated?

I do not forget about Israel's crimes. How could I?

But let's leave the Israelis to one side for a second. Let's say a Turkish vessel is headed for Australian waters with illegal immigrants on board on what Turkey calls a mercy dash. The Turkish vessel is boarded by Australian Navy in International Waters and the Turkish Crew attack the boarding party. What do you believe will happen? Do you think there will be repercussions?

You cant cloud the issues at hand with hypothetical cases Paphitis. Each case has its own merit. I doubt very much that the activists had any firearms. I wish they did, that would have been justice.

When they release the Turkish Camera crew with their film intact. The bastards did not impose news black out for nothing.

Of course they will reales a crappy video where nobody knows who is who and doing what?

[Paphitis]

If Turkey engages in war with aliens threating our planet, we would side with the aliens ... plonkers!

Just think of it as Israel and Cyprus joining forces against a mutual enemy - the terrorist nation of Turkey for the benefit of global and regional security.

Admit it Bananiot! If Israel gets so pissed off and then lashes out at Turkey altering the balance in Cyprus, then you would fly the Israeli flag the very next day.

My fellow Cypriots, it is time to develop new alliances.

Paphitis, you have to realise by now that Azrail has bitten off more than it can chew. I would not bet on Azrail attacking any escort ships in international waters.

Let's be realistic Deniz. The disguised Turkish MIT "activists" attacked the IDF boarding party and the IDF was forced to defend itself against Turkish aggression.

Are you saying that when the TA 'invaded' Cyprus the GCs had NO right to defend themselves.? I am surprised at you

Deniz, you can only get so much political milage from the fact that the IDF intercepted and boarded the flotilla in International Waters. I think you will find that some countries, Australia amongst them, have been doing just that for decades, mostly without incident.

Now, we have seen the released footage. "Activists" were clubbing IDF soldiers, 2 were thrown into a life boat, some were stabbed with
knives, and there were some gunshots heard. Do you honestly believe that the IDF would just sit idle and not react? Do you honestly believe the IDF will apologise for breaking International Law and leave after their soldiers were clubbed, stabbed and shot at? I don't think so!

I know the Azrailites. They wont apologise. We have seen in the past their bloody minded attitude towards the Palestinians. How easily the Chatilla massacres of the Palestinians are forgotten. The breaking of arms of young Palestinian boys, your brave IDF shelling civilians with such brutality, who forgets them? The activists on these boats had had enough warning and knew what to expect. They were determined to stop this piracy by the IDF. What gunshots? You believe the Azrailis you will believe anything. They cocked up big time, now they are squirming their way out of it. They will succeed only because of the Americans. Fancy the yanks telling the Azrailis to conduct their own investigation. I dont know why they should bother. Perhaps it was prepared before they began dropping onto the ships. Damn them all.

Deniz, did you see the footage? Are you saying it was fabricated?

I do not forget about Israel's crimes. How could I?

But let's leave the Israelis to one side for a second. Let's say a Turkish vessel is headed for Australian waters with illegal immigrants on board on what Turkey calls a mercy dash. The Turkish vessel is boarded by Australian Navy in International Waters and the Turkish Crew attack the boarding party. What do you believe will happen? Do you think there will be repercussions?

You cant cloud the issues at hand with hypothetical cases Paphitis. Each case has its own merit. I doubt very much that the activists had any firearms. I wish they did, that would have been justice.

Only problem Deniz, is that I am not clouding the issue with another hypothetical. Foreign boats are boarded daily by armed Royal Australian Navy, Australian Customs and Coastwatch vessels in International Waters. In fact, Australia makes a point of intercepting and apprehending vessels before they enter Australian Waters.

[denizaksulu]

If Turkey engages in war with aliens threating our planet, we would side with the aliens ... plonkers!

Just think of it as Israel and Cyprus joining forces against a mutual enemy - the terrorist nation of Turkey for the benefit of global and regional security.

Admit it Bananiot! If Israel gets so pissed off and then lashes out at Turkey altering the balance in Cyprus, then you would fly the Israeli flag the very next day.

My fellow Cypriots, it is time to develop new alliances.

Paphitis, you have to realise by now that Azrail has bitten off more than it can chew. I would not bet on Azrail attacking any escort ships in international waters.

Let's be realistic Deniz. The disguised Turkish MIT "activists" attacked the IDF boarding party and the IDF was forced to defend itself against Turkish aggression.

Are you saying that when the TA 'invaded' Cyprus the GCs had NO right to defend themselves.? I am surprised at you

Deniz, you can only get so much political milage from the fact that the IDF intercepted and boarded the flotilla in International Waters. I think you will find that some countries, Australia amongst them, have been doing just that for decades, mostly without incident.

Now, we have seen the released footage. "Activists" were clubbing IDF soldiers, 2 were thrown into a life boat, some were stabbed with
knives, and there were some gunshots heard. Do you honestly believe that the IDF would just sit idle and not react? Do you honestly believe the IDF will apologise for breaking International Law and leave after their soldiers were clubbed, stabbed and shot at? I don't think so!

I know the Azrailites. They wont apologise. We have seen in the past their bloody minded attitude towards the Palestinians. How easily the Chatilla massacres of the Palestinians are forgotten. The breaking of arms of young Palestinian boys, your brave IDF shelling civilians with such brutality, who forgets them? The activists on these boats had had enough warning and knew what to expect. They were determined to stop this piracy by the IDF. What gunshots? You believe the Azrailis you will believe anything. They cocked up big time, now they are squirming their way out of it. They will succeed only because of the Americans. Fancy the yanks telling the Azrailis to conduct their own investigation. I dont know why they should bother. Perhaps it was prepared before they began dropping onto the ships. Damn them all.

Deniz, did you see the footage? Are you saying it was fabricated?

I do not forget about Israel's crimes. How could I?

But let's leave the Israelis to one side for a second. Let's say a Turkish vessel is headed for Australian waters with illegal immigrants on board on what Turkey calls a mercy dash. The Turkish vessel is boarded by Australian Navy in International Waters and the Turkish Crew attack the boarding party. What do you believe will happen? Do you think there will be repercussions?

You cant cloud the issues at hand with hypothetical cases Paphitis. Each case has its own merit. I doubt very much that the activists had any firearms. I wish they did, that would have been justice.

Only problem Deniz, is that I am not clouding the issue with another hypothetical. Foreign boats are boarded daily by armed Royal Australian Navy, Australian Customs and Coastwatch vessels in International Waters. In fact, Australia makes a point of intercepting and apprehending vessels before they enter Australian Waters.

Nuh der, peygamber demez.

I had not realised that there was a GAZA strip in Oz. Sorry.

[Paphitis]

If Turkey engages in war with aliens threating our planet, we would side with the aliens ... plonkers!

Just think of it as Israel and Cyprus joining forces against a mutual enemy - the terrorist nation of Turkey for the benefit of global and regional security.

Admit it Bananiot! If Israel gets so pissed off and then lashes out at Turkey altering the balance in Cyprus, then you would fly the Israeli flag the very next day.

My fellow Cypriots, it is time to develop new alliances.

Paphitis, you have to realise by now that Azrail has bitten off more than it can chew. I would not bet on Azrail attacking any escort ships in international waters.

Let's be realistic Deniz. The disguised Turkish MIT "activists" attacked the IDF boarding party and the IDF was forced to defend itself against Turkish aggression.

Are you saying that when the TA 'invaded' Cyprus the GCs had NO right to defend themselves.? I am surprised at you

Deniz, you can only get so much political milage from the fact that the IDF intercepted and boarded the flotilla in International Waters. I think you will find that some countries, Australia amongst them, have been doing just that for decades, mostly without incident.

Now, we have seen the released footage. "Activists" were clubbing IDF soldiers, 2 were thrown into a life boat, some were stabbed with
knives, and there were some gunshots heard. Do you honestly believe that the IDF would just sit idle and not react? Do you honestly believe the IDF will apologise for breaking International Law and leave after their soldiers were clubbed, stabbed and shot at? I don't think so!

I know the Azrailites. They wont apologise. We have seen in the past their bloody minded attitude towards the Palestinians. How easily the Chatilla massacres of the Palestinians are forgotten. The breaking of arms of young Palestinian boys, your brave IDF shelling civilians with such brutality, who forgets them? The activists on these boats had had enough warning and knew what to expect. They were determined to stop this piracy by the IDF. What gunshots? You believe the Azrailis you will believe anything. They cocked up big time, now they are squirming their way out of it. They will succeed only because of the Americans. Fancy the yanks telling the Azrailis to conduct their own investigation. I dont know why they should bother. Perhaps it was prepared before they began dropping onto the ships. Damn them all.

Deniz, did you see the footage? Are you saying it was fabricated?

I do not forget about Israel's crimes. How could I?

But let's leave the Israelis to one side for a second. Let's say a Turkish vessel is headed for Australian waters with illegal immigrants on board on what Turkey calls a mercy dash. The Turkish vessel is boarded by Australian Navy in International Waters and the Turkish Crew attack the boarding party. What do you believe will happen? Do you think there will be repercussions?

You cant cloud the issues at hand with hypothetical cases Paphitis. Each case has its own merit. I doubt very much that the activists had any firearms. I wish they did, that would have been justice.

Only problem Deniz, is that I am not clouding the issue with another hypothetical. Foreign boats are boarded daily by armed Royal Australian Navy, Australian Customs and Coastwatch vessels in International Waters. In fact, Australia makes a point of intercepting and apprehending vessels before they enter Australian Waters.

Nuh der, peygamber demez.

I had not realised that there was a GAZA strip in Oz. Sorry.

Australia is paranoid about illegal immigration and potential terrorist activity.

Israel, is even more paranoid about "terrorism". Same thing Deniz, just a differant country.

[Nikitas]

Just because the Australian navy can operate unopposed in international waters that does not make it right.

Has the Australian navy stopped and boarded Russian, American or Chinese vessels? I doubt it. They board and bully ships belonging to nations that cannot respond in kind. This is what the Israelis did, at a distance of 80 miles from their shores.

The Israelis have also unilaterally decided to blockade Ghaza from the sea and air, thus imprisoning 1,5 million people in a state of squalor. In effect they turned Ghaza into something which resembles the ghettoes that their parents fled and which they ram down our bloody throats all the time.

As for this great diplomatic move of siding with Israel against Turkey, doing that will mean that the next day dozens of islamic nations will recognise the TRNC.

[Paphitis]

Just because the Australian navy can operate unopposed in international waters that does not make it right.

Has the Australian navy stopped and boarded Russian, American or Chinese vessels? I doubt it. They board and bully ships belonging to nations that cannot respond in kind. This is what the Israelis did, at a distance of 80 miles from their shores.

The Israelis have also unilaterally decided to blockade Ghaza from the sea and air, thus imprisoning 1,5 million people in a state of squalor. In effect they turned Ghaza into something which resembles the ghettoes that their parents fled and which they ram down our bloody throats all the time.

As for this great diplomatic move of siding with Israel against Turkey, doing that will mean that the next day dozens of islamic nations will recognise the TRNC.

They have boarded Russian Pantagonian Toothfish boats within the EEZ around Heard Island. I'm not certain about Chinese Registered Vessels, but the Japanese Whaling Fleet has received some attention.

Bear in mind that no ship is immune. Even a RoC registered Oil Tanker was photographed dumping waste by Coastwatch Aircraft. The ship could have been boarded but was not. The Captain was charged by Federal Police in Sydney Harbour and the Cypriot ship owner had to pay some fines or face an embargo from entering Australian waters.

How certain are you that the Arab League will recognize the "trnc"? Why is it that Israel has never done so when things were all rosey with Turkey? Does it have anything to do with UN resolutions?

[Nikitas]

Paphitis what you are describing is the arrogance of the anglosaxon method, ie might is right, which is what we find so objectionable in Cyprus. I wonder how Australia reacts when someone decides to stop and search their ships in international waters.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis what you are describing is the arrogance of the anglosaxon method, ie might is right, which is what we find so objectionable in Cyprus. I wonder how Australia reacts when someone decides to stop and search their ships in international waters.

We certainly wouldn't attack armed boarding parties Nikitas. Australian Registered Vessels won't engage in illegal fishing, whaling, or illegal immigration. Now, if an Australian owned vessel is engaged in illegal activity, then we don't particularly care if other nations intercept and make arrests. We would have done it if we got to them first.

You may say it is illegal, but not according to our law.

[Cap]

The problem here is Turkeys hypocricy. It's ok for her to be doing the violating, but cry foul when it gets done back to her.

They have a nerve (Turkey) to complain about international law violations and attacking ships in open waters, This is exactly what she is doing to Cyprus.

Yes I hope she does use military escorts, I hope also the Israeli are not deterred, but give these fuckers a good bashing. About time someone stood up to this war criminal and gave her a taste of her own medicine.

I have no love for turkey nor israel, but I would like to see turkey get her arse kicked for once, moreso, that I can see the yanks squirm as to who to support.

Yes my fellow GCs, the tide is changing, the balance is about to shift and we are looking into a new era. Maybe one of liberation.

Bring it on!

that was... excuse my French, Fu**ing brilliant
The bully becomes the skinny little foureyed runt sent packing from the school yard.... lol