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Postby Nikitas » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:42 pm

Well, good that such old phrases are still in daily use. Last time I was in Cyprus it seemed like the universal term of abuse was "malaka" which tends to show deepening cultural ties with Greece. Or maybe it was just the reaction of other drivers towards me.
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:42 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Just make it easy on yourself!

Stop wasting your time and leave gracefully.

And one for the road... :lol:

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Likewise.... :lol:



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Postby IMPOSTALIEDUS » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:16 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Can we now see the bullet-ridden bodies of the dead activists? Have they been released by the IDF yet?


Barking up the wrong tree!

Did the Turks expect an unarmed boarding party so that they can freely club them to death like they did to Solomou?

It sure as hell hurts when the shoe is on the other foot.

Yes, the bullet ridden bodies would be ghastly. Yes, many were shot at close range. Yes, many more were shot in the leg.
AND it is amazing how much activists blood gets everywere when shot at point blank range you can see it all over the idf pigs , mind you i do feel sympathy for that guy in the picture ,i know what its like to be slaped on the nose it can be really painfull, but you can distictly see the turkish activist giving him aid and caring for him ... properganda can work both ways ,but the israelis have taken it to new hights
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:27 pm

IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Can we now see the bullet-ridden bodies of the dead activists? Have they been released by the IDF yet?


Barking up the wrong tree!

Did the Turks expect an unarmed boarding party so that they can freely club them to death like they did to Solomou?

It sure as hell hurts when the shoe is on the other foot.

Yes, the bullet ridden bodies would be ghastly. Yes, many were shot at close range. Yes, many more were shot in the leg.
AND it is amazing how much activists blood gets everywere when shot at point blank range you can see it all over the idf pigs , mind you i do feel sympathy for that guy in the picture ,i know what its like to be slaped on the nose it can be really painfull, but you can distictly see the turkish activist giving him aid and caring for him ... properganda can work both ways ,but the israelis have taken it to new hights


Yes, boats have very confined spaces.

Yes, getting smashed in the head with metal rods is not only painful, but life threatening!
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Postby T_C » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:50 pm

Lit wrote:
T_C wrote:"Out to severely injure and kill" :roll:

They went up against the Israeli army!


Why?

T_C wrote:The IDF are the bad guys in most peoples opinion. It's them who the whole world is trying to save the Palestinians from! A hand full of foreign nationals standing up to the opressing army and paying with their lives was noble if not heroic.

And the best you can do is complain that these people faught the Israeli army...thats just so stupid! You would really have to be pro-Israel to see that as an issue which I don't believe most of you are...so it just boils down to how racist you are really. :lol:


You miss the whole point completely. Peace activist like the Cypriots and others before weren't going to Gaza to "go up against the Israeli army". They went to Gaza for humanitarian reasons, hence, peace activists. The problem here is the people if Gaza are living in terrible conditions so other countries, including Cyprus were sending aid to them. Since the Turks went and "faught the Israeli army" as you say...then why the surprise about the deaths that occurred? Tragic as it were...what did you think was going to happen? This has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with hypocrisy.

Up until recently, the Turks were Israel's biggest allies in the region and that was fine for decades. But if some GC's happens to think that Israel has a right to exist in peace, well, that is racism. Boggles the mind.


Because of the way they've treated the Palestinians of course!

Think about it, they were a hand full of people who took on an army!! They must of known they were likely to die.

It may be stupid, I for one would not give up my life for the Palestinian cause, but props to those that do!!!
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Postby Lit » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:15 pm

YFred wrote:Why is everybody referring to Hamas taking control of Gaza. Hello, they did win the election. Have we suddenly lost our appetite for democracy?

As to not knowing whether punishing 1,5 million people for voting Hamas is wright or wrong, may I suggest you learn your arse from your elbow and then consider rather more complicated thoughts.


Is this what you call democracy?
http://www.haaretz.com/news/at-least-10 ... p-1.222874

The western world, the EU, Japan, US...etc, etc classify Hamas as a terrorist organization.

I was actually disagreeing with Israeli policy when i stated that i do not know if punishing 1.5 million is the right way to get rid of Hamas.

the hypocrisy

Turkey massed troops on the border with Syria and threaten to invade that country to punish it for hosting Ocalan. You remember that, right? You didnt disagree with that policy now did you? You dont have any problems when Turkey is currently bombing Northern Iraq. But you do have a problem with Israel trying to remove Hamas via a blockade. Dialog with Hamas you say but no dialog with Ocalan. See, i am just pointing out the Turkish hypocrisy in all this.
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Postby Cap » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:45 pm

Cross Our Airspace To Bomb Iran & We Will Respond Like An Earthquake

The following has been translated from its original Arabic by the site administrator.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan stated that if Israel crossed over into Turkey’s airspace in order to bomb Iran then their answer to Israel shall be like that of an “earthquake“.

Erdogan’s response was due to a question, in an interview with Lebanese newspaper “Al Safir”, over information indicating that Israel had violated Turkish airspace in the process of spying against Iran.

Erdogan continued,saying that certainly “the information [stating that Israel was using their airspace to spy on Iran] is incorrect,” but he stated that, “if Israel did so, they will receive a response equal to that of an earthquake.”

He also said it was not reasonable that Israel went to Gaza and “swept” the population and later had the audacity to believe that they would still be permitted to train with Turkish defense forces after they have wrought havoc on the Gaza Strip.

“We,the elected government,came into being due to the will of our people. We cannot then challenge the feelings of the Turkish people, who were greatly effected by what happened during that aggression on Gaza. Our respect for the sentiment of the Turkish people played a decisive role in the background of our decision in refusing to conduct exercise “Anatolian Eagle”.

Furthermore,the Israeli’s cannot use the relationship they have with us that is declared on paper in order to hit Iran and we will not stand neutral or with folded hands”

“He said that most worry about in the Palestinian issue now is to develop the Gaza Strip”, which Turned into a big prison open, everyone stands idly by and indifferent to it. Which should not be Silence him, not only by the countries of the region, but also by the civilized world that respects Human rights “.” He described Israel’s war on Gaza as “aggression”, he is a crime against humanity in all its Standards, where Israeli forces used white phosphorus against civilians

He said that “after the aggression,which led to the destruction of Gaza: killing 1,500 of its people and wounding 5,000, a meeting in Sharm el-Sheikh had been agreed in order to rebuild what was destroyed. And there had been millions of dollars dedicated to help rebuild the strip, but the decision was not implemented. The ruins of Gaza have remained unchanged.Worse still; the blockade continues to deprive all basic needs of the people. I have heard that they have had to use the tunnels for the smuggling sheep in order to celebrate Eid al-Adha. “

This is a desperate situation and inhumane situation requires special effort in order to better treat it, so it was natural to include a list of the agenda of the visit “which is currently in Washington”. Erdogan added that there are other items which occupy his mind in this context -The first is that the cessation of settlement activity by Israel which is a necessary condition to return to peace negotiations. And second, Erdogan says that they will do their part in mediating between Israel and Syria. He has, so far, held five rounds of negotiations between the two parties.

In response to a question about the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wherein the Israeli PM made clear that he was no longer assured of the mediation capability of Turkey in this regard, and preferred the mediation of France, Erdogan replied:
“We wish to mediate between both parties, and if we receive this desire will again respond to them. If Netanyahu does not wish for us to mediate, then we will not” Nor will Turkey pressure Israel into accepting them as a mediator.

Erdogan mentioned that Turkey had made a deal 7 years ago in order buy a non-pilot aircraft but, “this [deal] has not been fulfilled by the government of Tel Aviv” and as a result Turkey had to lease an aircraft due to necessity.
Israel still has the remainder of 40 days to fulfill the deal and “if [after the 40 days] they do not fulfill the contract made over the unmanned airplane we will declare the agreement void”.

Al Safir asked whether or not Iran would be a topic of interest during Erdogan’s visit to Washington wherein he replied by saying that, “it would not be strange to bring up Iran during the trip to Washington” he continued to point out that the “understanding between Turkey and Iran has come a long way in containing many things surrounding the two countries” and noted that they were becoming the most influential nations in the region, and the volume of imports and exports between the nations was,as of now, 10 Billion dollars. There was an expressed hope that it will rise to 30 billion within a short period of time.

The “two countries are in a position of great significance in the Middle East” Erdogan stated, “without any direct intervention with either nations internal affairs”.

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Postby Cap » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:49 pm

This surely will make Yfred and Gasman glow with pride.
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Postby YFred » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:58 pm

Cap wrote:This surely will make Yfred and Gasman glow with pride.

Andrullagi get a life. Boy you need some.
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Postby Cap » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:02 pm

YFred wrote:
Cap wrote:This surely will make Yfred and Gasman glow with pride.

Andrullagi get a life. Boy you need some.

So I'm right then? :lol:
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