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[shahmaran]

Now you are being plain silly. You expect me to complain about practices of 400 years or so ago. To whom shall I complain GR? May be I was an Ottoman back then and only in the last 150 years did I convert to the true religion. Can you really not see the folly of this?

1878 is not 400 years ago!

The folly I see is your constant encouragement of renegades in the 21st century with one-sided statements like…

“We did not behave properly towards our TC compatriots. They were always second class citizens.”

...about a people who as recent as 1878 had come out of a 308 year Ottoman bondage!

Get a grip of the sad reality of Cyprus which did not begin in 1960!

He is right GR, people who remember being treated like shit by the GC's for decades are still alive, what the hell are you on about?!

[YFred]

Now you are being plain silly. You expect me to complain about practices of 400 years or so ago. To whom shall I complain GR? May be I was an Ottoman back then and only in the last 150 years did I convert to the true religion. Can you really not see the folly of this?

1878 is not 400 years ago!

The folly I see is your constant encouragement of renegades in the 21st century with one-sided statements like…

“We did not behave properly towards our TC compatriots. They were always second class citizens.”

...about a people who as recent as 1878 had come out of a 308 year Ottoman bondage!

Get a grip of the sad reality of Cyprus which did not begin in 1960!

He is right GR, people who remember being treated like shit by the GC's for decades are still alive, what the hell are you on about?!

I don't think he knows. If he did he would not be a plonker.

[Bananiot]

Tell us the other one GR, about the Persians. Our history did not start in 1878.

[Get Real!]

Tell us the other one GR, about the Persians. Our history did not start in 1878.

It’s high time you read the Treaty of Lausanne - ARTICLE 21

Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the 5th November, 1914, will acquire British nationality subject to the conditions laid down in the local law, and will thereupon lose their Turkish nationality. They will, however, have the right to opt for Turkish nationality within two years from the coming into force of the present Treaty, provided that they leave Cyprus within twelve months after having so opted.

Turkish nationals ordinarily resident in Cyprus on the coming into force of the present Treaty who, at that date, have acquired or are in process of acquiring British nationality in consequence of a request made in accordance with the local law, will also thereupon lose their Turkish nationality.

It is understood that the Government of Cyprus will be entitled to refuse British nationality to inhabitants of the island who, being Turkish nationals, had formerly acquired another nationality without the consent of the Turkish Government.


First, take good note that there is NO REFERENCE to “Turkish Cypriots” whatsoever!

Second, only 10,000 odd of these (later labeled) “Turkish Cypriots” left for Turkey and the remainder accepted these terms thus giving up their Turkishness, to abide by the new flow of the current on Cyprus!

There is NO excuse for them whatsoever!

[DT.]

Okay, let us see. In your opinion, would the Turkish army allow an international flotilla to approach the phantom town of Famagusta with the aim of putting pressure on Turkey to return it to its inhabitants? How will the army welcome these people? With rose petals? I would pose the question in the reverse, had a prodominantly TC town been condemned to a slow death as a result of a blockade by a stronger militarily GC administration.

Try to be as objective as possible.

Honestly?!

As many evil things as Turkey might have done, for something that has this much coverage globally, she would not be stupid enough to do what Israhell did.

They would have probably let them through or stopped them in a non lethal manner, which was highly possible but the IDF did exactly what they always do, just shoot the crap out of everyone.

As long as they are supported by the US, they really do not care, simply because they know they can get away with anything as long as they call it "self defense" along with some gibberish about anti-Semitism and the holocaust.

Turkey does not have that luxury to fall back on every time she is in trouble.

She paid for entering Cyprus and we are still paying for their peace operation, while the fucking Jews murder more people than the population of this island while making sure everyone is eating their shitty vegetables from the other side of the continent.

If anything, it is us who needs a god dam flotilla!

In 96 100's of motorcyclists gathered from 20 different countries in Berlin. They rode all the way down to Cyprus to demonstrate against the continuing occupation of this island.

2 demonstrators were murdered by Turkish/TC police and millitary. Both murders were caught on CNN.

If you carefully watch the video, you can clearly see that it was no one other than a TC police officer who shot the guy on the pole and the second one was caught by an angry mob of civilians.

What did you think it was going to happen, that you were going to be welcomed with flowers?!

That protest, first of all it was violent(!!) and secondly, was as cleverly manipulated and worthless of any real meaning, as the ships that were attacked by the IDF.

Both gave perfect bargaining chips to politicians and both sparked a lot of nationalist/racist feelings, which, lets face it, only serves politicians.

Both achieved nothing, if you ask me.

Don'T make me post those images. Most of the blows on the head are given by a TC policeman and another on his body. This is in clear sight.

As for the shooting the only clear shooter we see in the video and pics is your former "minister of agriculture"

[shahmaran]

Okay, let us see. In your opinion, would the Turkish army allow an international flotilla to approach the phantom town of Famagusta with the aim of putting pressure on Turkey to return it to its inhabitants? How will the army welcome these people? With rose petals? I would pose the question in the reverse, had a prodominantly TC town been condemned to a slow death as a result of a blockade by a stronger militarily GC administration.

Try to be as objective as possible.

Honestly?!

As many evil things as Turkey might have done, for something that has this much coverage globally, she would not be stupid enough to do what Israhell did.

They would have probably let them through or stopped them in a non lethal manner, which was highly possible but the IDF did exactly what they always do, just shoot the crap out of everyone.

As long as they are supported by the US, they really do not care, simply because they know they can get away with anything as long as they call it "self defense" along with some gibberish about anti-Semitism and the holocaust.

Turkey does not have that luxury to fall back on every time she is in trouble.

She paid for entering Cyprus and we are still paying for their peace operation, while the fucking Jews murder more people than the population of this island while making sure everyone is eating their shitty vegetables from the other side of the continent.

If anything, it is us who needs a god dam flotilla!

In 96 100's of motorcyclists gathered from 20 different countries in Berlin. They rode all the way down to Cyprus to demonstrate against the continuing occupation of this island.

2 demonstrators were murdered by Turkish/TC police and millitary. Both murders were caught on CNN.

If you carefully watch the video, you can clearly see that it was no one other than a TC police officer who shot the guy on the pole and the second one was caught by an angry mob of civilians.

What did you think it was going to happen, that you were going to be welcomed with flowers?!

That protest, first of all it was violent(!!) and secondly, was as cleverly manipulated and worthless of any real meaning, as the ships that were attacked by the IDF.

Both gave perfect bargaining chips to politicians and both sparked a lot of nationalist/racist feelings, which, lets face it, only serves politicians.

Both achieved nothing, if you ask me.

Don'T make me post those images. Most of the blows on the head are given by a TC policeman and another on his body. This is in clear sight.

As for the shooting the only clear shooter we see in the video and pics is your former "minister of agriculture"

You can post them if you like, I have sene them a dozen times.

The shooter walks out from the 1st floor balcony of the building behind the pole, dressed in a police uniform, takes 1 shot with a pistol and walks back in.

About the angry mob, I do not remember seing any police officers amongst them, but either way, back to the original argument, none of them were from Turkey, has nothing to do with Turkey.

[YFred]

Okay, let us see. In your opinion, would the Turkish army allow an international flotilla to approach the phantom town of Famagusta with the aim of putting pressure on Turkey to return it to its inhabitants? How will the army welcome these people? With rose petals? I would pose the question in the reverse, had a prodominantly TC town been condemned to a slow death as a result of a blockade by a stronger militarily GC administration.

Try to be as objective as possible.

Honestly?!

As many evil things as Turkey might have done, for something that has this much coverage globally, she would not be stupid enough to do what Israhell did.

They would have probably let them through or stopped them in a non lethal manner, which was highly possible but the IDF did exactly what they always do, just shoot the crap out of everyone.

As long as they are supported by the US, they really do not care, simply because they know they can get away with anything as long as they call it "self defense" along with some gibberish about anti-Semitism and the holocaust.

Turkey does not have that luxury to fall back on every time she is in trouble.

She paid for entering Cyprus and we are still paying for their peace operation, while the fucking Jews murder more people than the population of this island while making sure everyone is eating their shitty vegetables from the other side of the continent.

If anything, it is us who needs a god dam flotilla!

In 96 100's of motorcyclists gathered from 20 different countries in Berlin. They rode all the way down to Cyprus to demonstrate against the continuing occupation of this island.

2 demonstrators were murdered by Turkish/TC police and millitary. Both murders were caught on CNN.

If you carefully watch the video, you can clearly see that it was no one other than a TC police officer who shot the guy on the pole and the second one was caught by an angry mob of civilians.

What did you think it was going to happen, that you were going to be welcomed with flowers?!

That protest, first of all it was violent(!!) and secondly, was as cleverly manipulated and worthless of any real meaning, as the ships that were attacked by the IDF.

Both gave perfect bargaining chips to politicians and both sparked a lot of nationalist/racist feelings, which, lets face it, only serves politicians.

Both achieved nothing, if you ask me.

Don'T make me post those images. Most of the blows on the head are given by a TC policeman and another on his body. This is in clear sight.

As for the shooting the only clear shooter we see in the video and pics is your former "minister of agriculture"

You can post them if you like, I have sene them a dozen times.

The shooter walks out from the 1st floor balcony of the building behind the pole, dressed in a police uniform, takes 1 shot with a pistol and walks back in.

About the angry mob, I do not remember seing any police officers amongst them, but either way, back to the original argument, none of them were from Turkey, has nothing to do with Turkey.

In the interest of clarity, here is the video. It looks like Shah is right.

[repulsewarrior]

...right, one shot murders solomou, injures civilians, and wounds a UN official; the video doesn't say it all.

Turkey is clever enough to hijack a humanitarian mission, signal the Arab world with an Iranian flag on the ferry as large as her own, and justify boarding passenger in a port that is in the north of Cyprus.

...israel stepped into it badly.

Cypriots and this time Gazans will pay the price.

[YFred]

...right, one shot murders solomou, injures civilians, and wounds a UN official; the video doesn't say it all.

Turkey is clever enough to hijack a humanitarian mission, signal the Arab world with an Iranian flag on the ferry as large as her own, and justify boarding passenger in a port that is in the north of Cyprus.

...israel stepped into it badly.

Cypriots and this time Gazans will pay the price.

You are funny. Was it not one shot that killed Kennedy in three places and injured the governor?

Some of these bullets are very clever. So the FBI says?

[humanist]

I for one support Turkey's criticism of Israel's attacks on Palestinians.

I also find it hypocritical that Turkey has invaded Cyprus and holds part of its territory hostage and inaccessible to its rightful owners pretty much what Israel has done to the Palestinians in 1947?

However I congratulate Edrogan on his stance in relation to Gaza and Palestine.


ISRAELIS OUT OF PALESTINE NOW
TURKS OUT OF CYPRUS NOW