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Postby Gasman » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:27 am

Here we go again

'the rest of Europe'

Cyprus is in the EU, it is not in the continent of Europe.

If Cyprus, an island off the shores of Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, is considered to be in Europe, and according to the Times World Atlas, is in Asia, it is surely sensible to consider that Turkey is in Europe as part of it IS!

Those who rub their hands with glee at the thought of any alliance with Israel being in their favour must have very short term memory when it comes to how often these Middle Eastern and Asian countries CHANGE PARTNERS & DANCE!
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Postby Gasman » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:30 am

High time the rest of Europe woke up to this, and supported us, if only to protect themselves (as the next layer of victims).


That's O today.
Come on EU ..... we know bureaucracy slows you down .... but start the paperwork on issuing Turkey with her Eviction Notice.


That was you YEARS AGO O!

*have you got around to writing to them about this yet?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:09 am

Bananiot wrote:...you would know that I have apportioned greater blame on the GC leaders and warlords for the events that led to the invasion in 1974. We did not behave properly towards our TC compatriots. They were always second class citizens.

You’ve never complained about indigenous Cypriots being 3rd class citizens in their own country to invading Ottomans for 308 years!

Get a sense of REALITY for once and quit peddling one-sided rubbish!
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:18 am

Gasman wrote:Here we go again

'the rest of Europe'

Cyprus is in the EU, it is not in the continent of Europe.

If Cyprus, an island off the shores of Lebanon, Turkey, Syria, is considered to be in Europe, and according to the Times World Atlas, is in Asia, it is surely sensible to consider that Turkey is in Europe as part of it IS!

I’ve never come across anything in the EU Enlargement Commission that stipulates that EU membership is based on the continent of Europe!

If Turkey ultimately fails to enter the EU; and it’s not like they’re missing out on anything special, it’ll be because they haven’t satisfied prerequisites and/or because she’s a Muslim country.

The Holy Roman Empire rises and falls repeatedly through time…
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:49 am

GR

You’ve never complained about indigenous Cypriots being 3rd class citizens in their own country to invading Ottomans for 308 years!


You are losing yur sense of humour GR.
I will file a complain later, at the Sublime Porte, in Constantinople. Hopefully the Grand Vezir will accommodate my complain.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:54 am

Bananiot wrote:GR

You’ve never complained about indigenous Cypriots being 3rd class citizens in their own country to invading Ottomans for 308 years!


You are losing yur sense of humour GR.
I will file a complain later, at the Sublime Porte, in Constantinople. Hopefully the Grand Vezir will accommodate my complain.

By the same token, let the “Turkish Cypriots” file their complaints to Governor Harding for all I care…
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:01 pm

Now you are being plain silly. You expect me to complain about practices of 400 years or so ago. To whom shall I complain GR? May be I was an Ottoman back then and only in the last 150 years did I convert to the true religion. Can you really not see the folly of this?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:11 pm

Bananiot wrote:Now you are being plain silly. You expect me to complain about practices of 400 years or so ago. To whom shall I complain GR? May be I was an Ottoman back then and only in the last 150 years did I convert to the true religion. Can you really not see the folly of this?


This need to "take revenge" for what happened 400 years ago, is absolutely ridiculous, the exact mentality Serbian commanders had before they went on to execute muslim civilians into mass graves (remind you of anything).

I know that Piratis idiot was in full support of the idea as well as Oracle, but thats because I always thought they had serious psychological conflicts that would deeply corrupt their sense of reality, but you GR, I never knew you were one of "them"...

This is the kind of nationalism that exists in Cyprus, people who are still living in the days of The Bastard :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:13 pm

Bananiot wrote:Now you are being plain silly. You expect me to complain about practices of 400 years or so ago. To whom shall I complain GR? May be I was an Ottoman back then and only in the last 150 years did I convert to the true religion. Can you really not see the folly of this?

1878 is not 400 years ago!

The folly I see is your constant encouragement of renegades in the 21st century with one-sided statements like…

“We did not behave properly towards our TC compatriots. They were always second class citizens.”

...about a people who as recent as 1878 had come out of a 308 year Ottoman bondage!

Get a grip of the sad reality of Cyprus which did not begin in 1960!
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:15 pm

"You may say it is illegal, but not according to our law."

This sounds mighty close to that priceless statement from an Israely spokesman: "they were in Israely international waters".

National laws stop at the 12 mile limit. From there on it is international law that takes over, and if any one nation does not like the content of international law they can lobby to change it.

It is interesting to hear what one of the Greek captains said in a radio interview of the cargo his ship was carrying: 300 electric wheel chairs for amputees, two desalination units, tinned foods and medicine.

NOTE- the Greek authorities had checked the cargo in Piraeus on loading and notified the Israeli government of the manifest. The ship was again checked in Rhodos before leaving Greek waters and the cargo was confirmed. So when the Israelis doubt the Greek checks on the manifest they are doing what exactly? Mistrusting everyone as they are prone to do in their paranoid way.

A Swedish writer who was on the Turkish ship firmly denied that there were weapons on board. He said that they searched his belongings and found his shaving razor which they were brandishing on Israeli TV as proof of weapons being found on the ship. Other witnesses on other ships said they were hit and some tazered for no reason, they had all their belongings confiscated. In short Israel authories stole their clothes and personal items. And some are still saying that these actions were part of legitimate self defence. But then these same people think that keeping 1,5 million people penned up in Ghaza like animals is also legitimate self defence and not collective punishment.
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