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[Paphitis]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

Do you honestly believe Greeks and Cypriots would be stupid enough to attack an armed boarding party, even if that were in International Waters?

Look, drug smugglers know that they shouldn't smuggle drugs into Saudi Arabia because they might lose their head. Asylum Seekers know they should not come to Australia because they will be boarded (in International Waters) apprehended and put in a detention center and then deported.

Things may not be right. It's just the way it is. Some common sense is needed.

[Cap]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

I must agree with this.

I think the fact that this was done in International Waters irrespective of any pre emption of what may or may not have been on board the vessel nullifies any justification for this attack. (As well as being against international law).

Now I'm probably going to be shot down here but did not the Turks give the excuse that their invasion was if you like justified by their being pre emptive of what would have happened to TCs during and in the aftermath of the coup d'etat in 1974.

Oh lawd the hypocrisy!
In fact I think the Israeli's are leading an Aid Flotilla to west Turkey to help the besieged Kurds...

[CBBB]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

Do you honestly believe Greeks and Cypriots would be stupid enough to attack an armed boarding party, even if that were in International Waters?

Yes, you haven't seen what happens at football matches!

[Paphitis]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

Do you honestly believe Greeks and Cypriots would be stupid enough to attack an armed boarding party, even if that were in International Waters?

Yes, you haven't seen what happens at football matches!

[RichardB]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

I must agree with this.

I think the fact that this was done in International Waters irrespective of any pre emption of what may or may not have been on board the vessel nullifies any justification for this attack. (As well as being against international law).

Now I'm probably going to be shot down here but did not the Turks give the excuse that their invasion was if you like justified by their being pre emptive of what would have happened to TCs during and in the aftermath of the coup d'etat in 1974.

Oh lawd the hypocrisy!
In fact I think the Israeli's are leading an Aid Flotilla to west Turkey to help the besieged Kurds...

Cap
Please explain where you see any hypocrisy in my post.

and, if indeed the Israelis were leading a flotilla to aid the Kurds would you say that the Turks would be justifiable in attacking the vessel whilst in international waters ......

[Cap]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

I must agree with this.

I think the fact that this was done in International Waters irrespective of any pre emption of what may or may not have been on board the vessel nullifies any justification for this attack. (As well as being against international law).

Now I'm probably going to be shot down here but did not the Turks give the excuse that their invasion was if you like justified by their being pre emptive of what would have happened to TCs during and in the aftermath of the coup d'etat in 1974.

Oh lawd the hypocrisy!
In fact I think the Israeli's are leading an Aid Flotilla to west Turkey to help the besieged Kurds...

Cap
Please explain where you see any hypocrisy in my post.

and, if indeed the Israelis were leading a flotilla to aid the Kurds would you say that the Turks would be justifiable in attacking the vessel whilst in international waters ......

You misunderstood my post Rich...
I was talking about Turkey's hypocrisy.

[RichardB]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

I must agree with this.

I think the fact that this was done in International Waters irrespective of any pre emption of what may or may not have been on board the vessel nullifies any justification for this attack. (As well as being against international law).

Now I'm probably going to be shot down here but did not the Turks give the excuse that their invasion was if you like justified by their being pre emptive of what would have happened to TCs during and in the aftermath of the coup d'etat in 1974.

Oh lawd the hypocrisy!
In fact I think the Israeli's are leading an Aid Flotilla to west Turkey to help the besieged Kurds...

Cap
Please explain where you see any hypocrisy in my post.

and, if indeed the Israelis were leading a flotilla to aid the Kurds would you say that the Turks would be justifiable in attacking the vessel whilst in international waters ......

You misunderstood my post Rich...
I was talking about Turkey's hypocrisy.

no probs Cap I misunderstand my own posts often enough

[Cap]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

I must agree with this.

I think the fact that this was done in International Waters irrespective of any pre emption of what may or may not have been on board the vessel nullifies any justification for this attack. (As well as being against international law).

Now I'm probably going to be shot down here but did not the Turks give the excuse that their invasion was if you like justified by their being pre emptive of what would have happened to TCs during and in the aftermath of the coup d'etat in 1974.

Oh lawd the hypocrisy!
In fact I think the Israeli's are leading an Aid Flotilla to west Turkey to help the besieged Kurds...

Cap
Please explain where you see any hypocrisy in my post.

and, if indeed the Israelis were leading a flotilla to aid the Kurds would you say that the Turks would be justifiable in attacking the vessel whilst in international waters ......

You misunderstood my post Rich...
I was talking about Turkey's hypocrisy.

no probs Cap I misunderstand my own posts often enough

Sorry guys, but he does make valid points, too bad he didn't mention Cyprus...

[Lit]

Irrespective of underlying motives, the flotilla was attacked in international waters. Is this not piracy? Those on board are not allowed to defend themselves? How would you have all (and I mean ALL!) changed your posts if it had been Greek or Cypriot ships?

I must agree with this.

I think the fact that this was done in International Waters irrespective of any pre emption of what may or may not have been on board the vessel nullifies any justification for this attack. (As well as being against international law).

Now I'm probably going to be shot down here but did not the Turks give the excuse that their invasion was if you like justified by their being pre emptive of what would have happened to TCs during and in the aftermath of the coup d'etat in 1974.

Oh lawd the hypocrisy!
In fact I think the Israeli's are leading an Aid Flotilla to west Turkey to help the besieged Kurds...

Cap
Please explain where you see any hypocrisy in my post.

and, if indeed the Israelis were leading a flotilla to aid the Kurds would you say that the Turks would be justifiable in attacking the vessel whilst in international waters ......

You misunderstood my post Rich...
I was talking about Turkey's hypocrisy.

no probs Cap I misunderstand my own posts often enough

Sorry guys, but he does make valid points, too bad he didn't mention Cyprus...

No but CNN has...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/06/01/f ... la.israel/

Turkey is protesting vigorously. But, question: Turkey is a NATO ally, an applicant to the European Union. What is it doing allowing its nationals to smuggle cement that could build bunkers? Especially when those nationals belong to a group, the Turkish IHH (Insani Yardim Vakfi) that Israel has designated a terrorist organization?

The flotilla departed from Turkish-occupied northern Cyprus. Turkey's occupation of half of Cyprus is deemed illegal by the European Union and the United Nations. If the government of Turkey feels so strongly about ending disputed occupations, why does it not start with the disputed occupation it is operating itself?

[Lit]

Gaza flotilla attack: two of Turkish activists killed in raid 'wanted to be martyrs'

Two of the Turkish men shot dead during the Israeli commando raid on an aid flotilla heading for the Gaza strip were activists who wanted to be martyrs for their faith.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rtyrs.html


All the Turkish dead named so far were said to be religious activists linked to IHH, a humanitarian agency with an Islamist stance that Israel has accused of supporting militant groups including Hamas and al-Qaeda.

[...]

He said the Israeli takeover of five of the boats went relatively calmly, but on the Mavi Marmara “we saw an action directed by terrorists affiliated with Hamas. This was not the Love Boat.”