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Earth to AKEL ; the cold war is over.. (headline)

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Earth to AKEL ; the cold war is over.. (headline)

Postby BOF » Sun May 30, 2010 1:24 pm

From todays Cyprus Mail........

AFTER the plane crash in which Poland’s President, Lech Kaczynski, was killed, the President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev took a politically courageous decision. He released documentary evidence which proved the guilt of the Stalin regime for the Katyn massacre – the murder of some 22,000 Polish nationals carried out by the Soviet secret police.

This official admission by Medvedev sparked an idiotic reaction by the AKEL leadership in Cyprus. Defying all logic, the party leadership, through its mouthpiece Haravghi, said Medvedev was wrong and insisted that the document was forged – drafted by the Nazis. It should be noted that after 1990, when the Soviet regime collapsed, all Russia’s leaders had admitted that this abhorrent crime was committed by Stalin.

The massacre of 22,000 Polish officers, academics and professionals was one of the most abhorrent crimes committed during World War II. The facts surrounding this crime are now well-known and there is no reason to repeat them here, even though it may help educate the AKEL leadership. Cyprus’ communists, even today, seem committed to justifying or denying the most appalling excesses of the Stalinist regime.

In contrast to other communist parties in Europe (we will not refer to North Korea’s or Cuba’s) which in the past had the courage to disagree and criticise the Soviet governments, the leadership of AKEL never dared question any of the Kremlin’s diktats. Cyprus’ communists considered it sacrilege to deviate, even once, from the line carved out by the Kremlin in the good old days of Soviet might.

Even on the Cyprus problem AKEL slavishly obeyed the Kremlin’s instructions. In 1978 there was an Anglo-American-Canadian plan for Cyprus which the AKEL leadership initially accepted. But once Moscow took a negative stance on it AKEL decided to reject it.

What is most astonishing is that this bizarre behaviour continues to this day, 20 years after the collapse of communism and demise of the Soviet Union. Yet listening to the Cyprus communists, you get the impression that the Cold War is still raging. It is as if nobody informed them of the historic changes that took place in 1990.

And when President Christofias visited Moscow last year, he felt obliged to go back 30 years and sing the praises of the Soviet Union. This combined with his decision to accept an invitation to dinner from the Russian Communist Party, resulted in Vladimir Putin’s refusal to see him during the visit.

I said at the beginning that the reaction of the AKEL bosses to the release of the Lavrentiy Beria document about the massacre of Katyn, should have shocked all intelligent people in Cyprus. The reaction should worry us as it serves to underline the glaring contradiction of having a leadership with a Stalinist mentality in European Union member-state. This is dangerous.

I also find it inexplicable, not say inconceivable, that an otherwise likeable and seemingly moderate chap like Andros Kyrpianou could be leading a party that tries to defend and justify the heinous crimes of a paranoid, bloodthirsty dictator like Joseph Stalin. Apart from the Poles he was responsible for the death of more than four million Soviet citizens.

I think Kyprianou owes all the ordinary supporters of AKEL an explanation for this outrageous stance.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun May 30, 2010 1:53 pm

Who said that Andros Kyprianou is a moderate chap? Looks can be very deceiving, but I will say no more on this one.
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Postby Piratis » Sun May 30, 2010 5:28 pm

Even on the Cyprus problem AKEL slavishly obeyed the Kremlin’s instructions. In 1978 there was an Anglo-American-Canadian plan for Cyprus which the AKEL leadership initially accepted. But once Moscow took a negative stance on it AKEL decided to reject it.


Yes, AKEL rejected that plan because it was rejected by the Soviets. On the other extreme, DISY accepted that plan because it was made by the Americans. Some things never change!

The only responsible political powers in Cyprus that serve the interests of the Cypriot people are the parties of the center. They do what is right for Cyprus and take directions from nobody.
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Postby YFred » Sun May 30, 2010 5:57 pm

Piratis wrote:
Even on the Cyprus problem AKEL slavishly obeyed the Kremlin’s instructions. In 1978 there was an Anglo-American-Canadian plan for Cyprus which the AKEL leadership initially accepted. But once Moscow took a negative stance on it AKEL decided to reject it.


Yes, AKEL rejected that plan because it was rejected by the Soviets. On the other extreme, DISY accepted that plan because it was made by the Americans. Some things never change!

The only responsible political powers in Cyprus that serve the interests of the Cypriot people are the parties of the center. They do what is right for Cyprus and take directions from nobody.

But in another thread you were saying the centre ground is meaningless.

Make you mind up, the eurovision is over.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun May 30, 2010 7:23 pm

Kyprianou accepted too, didn't he?
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Postby Piratis » Sun May 30, 2010 9:22 pm

Bananiot wrote:Kyprianou accepted too, didn't he?


About which Kyprianou are you talking about now? Spyros?

The point here is not who accepted and who rejected something. The point is if such decisions are taken independently with the interests of the Cypriot people in mind, or if some parties just do as they are told by certain outsiders.

It is clear that DISY would accept whatever the Americans proposed, while AKEL would do whatever the Soviets ordered.
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 30, 2010 9:53 pm

Maybe the Cold War is still raging. Only the players have changed.

Every so often, someone comes along to denigrate Communism by citing Stalin's atrocities. Krushchev did it. And now it seems Medvedev. But Stalin isn't the paradigm of Communism, but despotism. Stalin might be at fault, not Communism.
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Postby YFred » Sun May 30, 2010 10:15 pm

Oracle wrote:Maybe the Cold War is still raging. Only the players have changed.

Every so often, someone comes along to denigrate Communism by citing Stalin's atrocities. Krushchev did it. And now it seems Medvedev. But Stalin isn't the paradigm of Communism, but despotism. Stalin might be at fault, not Communism.

My dearest lady, the cold war is over. Both china and russia have joined the capitalist world. There is only economic war between them now if you you can call it that. Next time there is a un resolution on cyprus, I wouldn't count on russia or france in blocking it.
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Postby Gasman » Sun May 30, 2010 10:28 pm

No surprise to me that O defends communism.

COMMIE BODY COUNT (does not include war dead)

http://www.digitalsurvivors.com/archives/communistbodycount.php

'Theory' of Communism is one thing. The practice of it encourages the most corrupt to seek to advance their own aims.
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Postby Gasman » Sun May 30, 2010 10:33 pm

The only communist countries left in the world - Laos, Vietnam, North Korea, Cuba, and China (no Greece!)

And none of them can be said to be TRULY Communist as 'true communism' was never practised or applied.

Just like some 'Democratic Republics of ... wherever' that are not in the least bit 'democratic'.
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