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[Omer Seyhan]

oh yes and two more:

Yoruk (nomads from the Taurus mountains)
Kashmiris (I have heard only of a few cases)

So that makes 28 origins!

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing for Istanbul, 12,000 foot soldiers to remain on the island for the formation of the defensive garrison of Famagusta, Nicosia and Kyrenia. In addition, he distributed 4,000 cavalry men among the localities of Les Salines (Larnaca), Limassol, Paphos, Kyrenia, and elsewhere. The military forces were complemented by an additional 20,000 decommissioned soldiers and 2,000 cavalry remaining as colonists. These people as a whole formed the original nucleus of the fledgling Turkish-Cypriot community whose members were of Turkish origin, and by the firman (decree) of Sultan Selim II they were given fiefs for the provision of their homes, and sustenance. Steps were also taken to assist all soldiers with dependents on the mainland to bring their wives and children to Cyprus.

Nevertheless, in the opinion of Sinan Pasha, the Beylerbeyi (Governor-General) who replaced Lala Mustafa Pasha, the island was still heavily in need not only of more residents in general but also of skilled craftsmen. Consequently, after he informed Sultan Selim II of the island's condition, a firman (decree) was issued to the Kadis (chief judges) of Karaman, Íchel, Bozok (Yozgat), Alaiyye (Alanya), Teke (Antalya), and Aydin calling for a population transfer. throughout their history, this practice was commonly employed by the Ottoman Turks in rebuilding and populating the conquered territories. This was an essential part of their political theory.

In this instance Sultan Selim II recommended the transfer of one in every ten families from the areas mentioned above. It was further stipulated that their properties should be sold for their actual market value and that all monies thereby accruing should be given to them for their use in Cyprus. Furthermore, in order to provide additional assistance, they were to be exempt from all taxation for the initial three years of their residence in Cyprus.

In order to assure the effective development of the island, those individuals sent to Cyprus were, as part of the relocation programme, screened as to their moral integrity, two witnesses being required to testify to their character. In addition, efforts were made to obtain craftsmen representing a wide range of skills known to be of short supply on the island. Special attention was given primarily to relocating farmers. These were supplemented by some shoemakers, bootmakers, tailors, weavers, makers of linen skull-caps, quilt makers, spinners, cooks, candle-makers, farriers, tanners, masons, jewellers, coppersmiths, and miners. Also efforts were made to transfer families with many young daughters so as to provide spouses for unwed ex-military personnel. Ultimately, these families relocated to the island from the Black Sea regions of Trabzon, Giresun, Samsun, and Sinop.

A total of 5,720 households were transferred in this early period and re-settled in approximately one hundred empty villages in the Mesaoria, Mazoto, and Paphos regions of Cyprus. Early arrivals consisted of families primarily from Karaman, Yozgat, Alanya, and Antalya. Others quickly following came primarily from Beysehir, Aksaray, Seydişehir, Develihisar, Nigde, and Endugi. The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

BigOZ you are a BigBullug. You dassak sakulli how dare you! I am very well read on the subject, ok?

You on the other hand went to http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

to gather your information.

Historical research does not come off easy to read websites, they come from academic sources such as Nazim Beratli's Kibris Turk Tarihi, Ronald Jennings, Christians and Muslims in Ottoman Cyprus, Sir Harry Luke's Cyprus under the Turks, Prof. Atun's historical atlas, Gazioglu's Turks in Cyprus and many more.....

Be fucking cubt! yiu do not even know how to write proper Turkish never mind reading all the sources you quote.

Bre kani bozuk ipne! I do not deny what my source is - if you know so nuch you should also know that the quote in this script relies heavily on Ottoman annals and records! Who does your fucking fairy tale telling titles depend on? Fucking Sir Harry Luke? What is Atun a proffessor of. And who exactly are the rest of your kabilesi bozuk SOBs?

Now you go and fuck yourself before I do it for you ARSEHOLE!!!

This is your source: The North Cyprus Almanack, (1985), K. Rüstem & Bro. Publishers, London.

This is a book written by the TRNC Information as a tourist / investors guide to North Cyprus. Hardly an academic source is it?

Like I said, you ought to think about how reliable your sources are before quoting.

On a separate note: do you like to give other men anal sex? Are you gay?

Its ok to be gay... There is a large colourful gay Cypriot community that is coming out of its shell. I'm happy for you, but I'm not that way inclined. I'm happily married thank you.

[bigOz]

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing

etc...

The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

I wandered what the fucking origins of what you posted were.

Here's the link:

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

I'll let others judge whether it's an objective source.

Fuck off you idiot - with a Churchill avatar - I can see where yout fucking origins come from!

I am in no denila of my source - hence the bold quote! If you are so fucking clever why did you not read the rest of it or follow the link in the text? Here is more from the same site for you:


The following is a summarised text of the Sultan Selim II’s Firman (decree) dated 21st September 1571, ordering the Governors of Western Central, and Eastern Anatolia and Karaman to make immediate arrange- ments for the transport of twenty thousand Turkish families to Cyprus for settlement. The original document is reproduced above.

The first settlers who arrived in the island after the issue of this Firman numbered about twenty thousand, but this figure did not include the permanent garrison, whose official strength was 2,000 infantry and 2,666 cavalry, and who were already stationed in the island after the conquest. In consequence, when in 1571, settled Turkish community first came into existence in Cyprus, its members were of Turkish origins. However, there were also few converts into Islam from the locals as well as from the Latin Catholic people.

Text of the Firman (decree)
In a report I received from Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Governor of Cyprus, it is stated that during the war which lasted three years, many parts of the island were destroyed, and a new ambitious plan is necessary to re- activate the economy and use the natural resources of the island to their utmost. Therefore, I have ordered a plan to be drawn up immediately, and have given instructions to the Governor-General (Lala Mustafa Pasha) to utilize every possible source to develop the country, and to cultivate the fields, vineyards, and farms.

Subsidy and encouragement should be given to the new settlers, especially in the agricultural sector. In addition, the labour force should be expanded to cultivate adequately the fields, farms, and vineyards in the island. Instructions have also been given to the authorities in charge of the settlement programme to see that, among the interested citizens who want to settle in the island, professionals such as craftsmen and traders, shoe-makers, boot-makers, tailors, skull-cap makers, weavers, sack-weavers, wool carders, silk dyers and manufacturers, cooks, soup-makers, candle- stick-makers, saddlers, farriers, grocers, tanners, carpenters, master builders, stone-cutters, goldsmiths, and coppersmiths should be included, and all settlers should be allowed to take their personal belongings and professional equipment.

They should also be encouraged to take their sheep, goats, and farming equipment, and other essential material that will be required to continue their normal life. The immovable properties and lands owned by citizens emigrating to the island should be entrusted to their local authorities, and their respective owners should be compensated in kind. They should also be paid pocket-money subsidies and other allowances, together with their personal travelling expenses. The emigrants who are willing to go to the island should be asked to register their names and professions with the authorities, and after completing the formalities required, should report to the port of Silifke for subsequent travel to reach their destination in Cyprus before the autumn of 1572.

They should also be given expatriate allowance and certain additional privileges such as tax exemptions. Specific instructions have also been given to the authorities that the officials dealing with the emigration formalities should give every possible assistance to the emigrants wishing to go to Cyprus, and accelerate the operation of settlement to see that no complaints arise whatsoever.

Signed
Selim II
Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

[Omer Seyhan]

My origins are probably Turkish Alevi, Spanish Jewish and Latin - like many other Turkish-speaking Cypriots.

But ultimately I am a Cypriot and I am for Cypriot unity and freedom.

You probably are! But ask your Cypriot mates how many of them think of themselves as Greek and not really Cypriot?
AND NOW FOR THE EUROVISION VOTES OF CYPRUS! "Greece 12 points!" As has it has always been and will be in every competition! You sound exactly like me 11 years ago!

I liked the Greek song -it had a nice beat. Besides Giorgios Alkaios is half Portuguese and the Cypriot singers were mostly Welsh.

[Omer Seyhan]

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing

etc...

The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

I wandered what the fucking origins of what you posted were.

Here's the link:

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

I'll let others judge whether it's an objective source.

Fuck off you idiot - with a Churchill avatar - I can see where yout fucking origins come from!

I am in no denila of my source - hence the bold quote! If you are so fucking clever why did you not read the rest of it or follow the link in the text? Here is more from the same site for you:


The following is a summarised text of the Sultan Selim II’s Firman (decree) dated 21st September 1571, ordering the Governors of Western Central, and Eastern Anatolia and Karaman to make immediate arrange- ments for the transport of twenty thousand Turkish families to Cyprus for settlement. The original document is reproduced above.

The first settlers who arrived in the island after the issue of this Firman numbered about twenty thousand, but this figure did not include the permanent garrison, whose official strength was 2,000 infantry and 2,666 cavalry, and who were already stationed in the island after the conquest. In consequence, when in 1571, settled Turkish community first came into existence in Cyprus, its members were of Turkish origins. However, there were also few converts into Islam from the locals as well as from the Latin Catholic people.

Text of the Firman (decree)
In a report I received from Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Governor of Cyprus, it is stated that during the war which lasted three years, many parts of the island were destroyed, and a new ambitious plan is necessary to re- activate the economy and use the natural resources of the island to their utmost. Therefore, I have ordered a plan to be drawn up immediately, and have given instructions to the Governor-General (Lala Mustafa Pasha) to utilize every possible source to develop the country, and to cultivate the fields, vineyards, and farms.

Subsidy and encouragement should be given to the new settlers, especially in the agricultural sector. In addition, the labour force should be expanded to cultivate adequately the fields, farms, and vineyards in the island. Instructions have also been given to the authorities in charge of the settlement programme to see that, among the interested citizens who want to settle in the island, professionals such as craftsmen and traders, shoe-makers, boot-makers, tailors, skull-cap makers, weavers, sack-weavers, wool carders, silk dyers and manufacturers, cooks, soup-makers, candle- stick-makers, saddlers, farriers, grocers, tanners, carpenters, master builders, stone-cutters, goldsmiths, and coppersmiths should be included, and all settlers should be allowed to take their personal belongings and professional equipment.

They should also be encouraged to take their sheep, goats, and farming equipment, and other essential material that will be required to continue their normal life. The immovable properties and lands owned by citizens emigrating to the island should be entrusted to their local authorities, and their respective owners should be compensated in kind. They should also be paid pocket-money subsidies and other allowances, together with their personal travelling expenses. The emigrants who are willing to go to the island should be asked to register their names and professions with the authorities, and after completing the formalities required, should report to the port of Silifke for subsequent travel to reach their destination in Cyprus before the autumn of 1572.

They should also be given expatriate allowance and certain additional privileges such as tax exemptions. Specific instructions have also been given to the authorities that the officials dealing with the emigration formalities should give every possible assistance to the emigrants wishing to go to Cyprus, and accelerate the operation of settlement to see that no complaints arise whatsoever.

Signed
Selim II
Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

Eh, so what be gardas, you have one translated firman. Who translated it? Why are you relying only one firman? People have studied hundreds of these for years as part of their research. Don't you think you are insulting them by taking their work out of context to prove your Turkish which probably stands on very weak foundations?

This kind of reaction can only mean that you are Greek. Probably from Lesbos by the sounds of your fantasies....

[bigOz]

oh yes and two more:

Yoruk (nomads from the Taurus mountains)
Kashmiris (I have heard only of a few cases)

So that makes 28 origins!

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing for Istanbul, 12,000 foot soldiers to remain on the island for the formation of the defensive garrison of Famagusta, Nicosia and Kyrenia. In addition, he distributed 4,000 cavalry men among the localities of Les Salines (Larnaca), Limassol, Paphos, Kyrenia, and elsewhere. The military forces were complemented by an additional 20,000 decommissioned soldiers and 2,000 cavalry remaining as colonists. These people as a whole formed the original nucleus of the fledgling Turkish-Cypriot community whose members were of Turkish origin, and by the firman (decree) of Sultan Selim II they were given fiefs for the provision of their homes, and sustenance. Steps were also taken to assist all soldiers with dependents on the mainland to bring their wives and children to Cyprus.

Nevertheless, in the opinion of Sinan Pasha, the Beylerbeyi (Governor-General) who replaced Lala Mustafa Pasha, the island was still heavily in need not only of more residents in general but also of skilled craftsmen. Consequently, after he informed Sultan Selim II of the island's condition, a firman (decree) was issued to the Kadis (chief judges) of Karaman, Íchel, Bozok (Yozgat), Alaiyye (Alanya), Teke (Antalya), and Aydin calling for a population transfer. throughout their history, this practice was commonly employed by the Ottoman Turks in rebuilding and populating the conquered territories. This was an essential part of their political theory.

In this instance Sultan Selim II recommended the transfer of one in every ten families from the areas mentioned above. It was further stipulated that their properties should be sold for their actual market value and that all monies thereby accruing should be given to them for their use in Cyprus. Furthermore, in order to provide additional assistance, they were to be exempt from all taxation for the initial three years of their residence in Cyprus.

In order to assure the effective development of the island, those individuals sent to Cyprus were, as part of the relocation programme, screened as to their moral integrity, two witnesses being required to testify to their character. In addition, efforts were made to obtain craftsmen representing a wide range of skills known to be of short supply on the island. Special attention was given primarily to relocating farmers. These were supplemented by some shoemakers, bootmakers, tailors, weavers, makers of linen skull-caps, quilt makers, spinners, cooks, candle-makers, farriers, tanners, masons, jewellers, coppersmiths, and miners. Also efforts were made to transfer families with many young daughters so as to provide spouses for unwed ex-military personnel. Ultimately, these families relocated to the island from the Black Sea regions of Trabzon, Giresun, Samsun, and Sinop.

A total of 5,720 households were transferred in this early period and re-settled in approximately one hundred empty villages in the Mesaoria, Mazoto, and Paphos regions of Cyprus. Early arrivals consisted of families primarily from Karaman, Yozgat, Alanya, and Antalya. Others quickly following came primarily from Beysehir, Aksaray, Seydişehir, Develihisar, Nigde, and Endugi. The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

BigOZ you are a BigBullug. You dassak sakulli how dare you! I am very well read on the subject, ok?

You on the other hand went to http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

to gather your information.

Historical research does not come off easy to read websites, they come from academic sources such as Nazim Beratli's Kibris Turk Tarihi, Ronald Jennings, Christians and Muslims in Ottoman Cyprus, Sir Harry Luke's Cyprus under the Turks, Prof. Atun's historical atlas, Gazioglu's Turks in Cyprus and many more.....

Be fucking cubt! yiu do not even know how to write proper Turkish never mind reading all the sources you quote.

Bre kani bozuk ipne! I do not deny what my source is - if you know so nuch you should also know that the quote in this script relies heavily on Ottoman annals and records! Who does your fucking fairy tale telling titles depend on? Fucking Sir Harry Luke? What is Atun a proffessor of. And who exactly are the rest of your kabilesi bozuk SOBs?

Now you go and fuck yourself before I do it for you ARSEHOLE!!!

This is your source: The North Cyprus Almanack, (1985), K. Rüstem & Bro. Publishers, London.

This is a book written by the TRNC Information as a tourist / investors guide to North Cyprus. Hardly an academic source is it?

Like I said, you ought to think about how reliable your sources are before quoting.

On a separate note: do you like to give other men anal sex? Are you gay?

Its ok to be gay... There is a large colourful gay Cypriot community that is coming out of its shell. I'm happy for you, but I'm not that way inclined. I'm happily married thank you.

Do not change the subject you cunt - I know you are married - your wife told me so last night!
Read the fucking decree again and REPENT you silly pretentious ignorant wanker!

The following is a summarised text of the Sultan Selim II’s Firman (decree) dated 21st September 1571, ordering the Governors of Western Central, and Eastern Anatolia and Karaman to make immediate arrange- ments for the transport of twenty thousand Turkish families to Cyprus for settlement. The original document is reproduced above.

The first settlers who arrived in the island after the issue of this Firman numbered about twenty thousand, but this figure did not include the permanent garrison, whose official strength was 2,000 infantry and 2,666 cavalry, and who were already stationed in the island after the conquest. In consequence, when in 1571, settled Turkish community first came into existence in Cyprus, its members were of Turkish origins. However, there were also few converts into Islam from the locals as well as from the Latin Catholic people.

Text of the Firman (decree)
In a report I received from Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Governor of Cyprus, it is stated that during the war which lasted three years, many parts of the island were destroyed, and a new ambitious plan is necessary to re- activate the economy and use the natural resources of the island to their utmost. Therefore, I have ordered a plan to be drawn up immediately, and have given instructions to the Governor-General (Lala Mustafa Pasha) to utilize every possible source to develop the country, and to cultivate the fields, vineyards, and farms.

Subsidy and encouragement should be given to the new settlers, especially in the agricultural sector. In addition, the labour force should be expanded to cultivate adequately the fields, farms, and vineyards in the island. Instructions have also been given to the authorities in charge of the settlement programme to see that, among the interested citizens who want to settle in the island, professionals such as craftsmen and traders, shoe-makers, boot-makers, tailors, skull-cap makers, weavers, sack-weavers, wool carders, silk dyers and manufacturers, cooks, soup-makers, candle- stick-makers, saddlers, farriers, grocers, tanners, carpenters, master builders, stone-cutters, goldsmiths, and coppersmiths should be included, and all settlers should be allowed to take their personal belongings and professional equipment.

They should also be encouraged to take their sheep, goats, and farming equipment, and other essential material that will be required to continue their normal life. The immovable properties and lands owned by citizens emigrating to the island should be entrusted to their local authorities, and their respective owners should be compensated in kind. They should also be paid pocket-money subsidies and other allowances, together with their personal travelling expenses. The emigrants who are willing to go to the island should be asked to register their names and professions with the authorities, and after completing the formalities required, should report to the port of Silifke for subsequent travel to reach their destination in Cyprus before the autumn of 1572.

They should also be given expatriate allowance and certain additional privileges such as tax exemptions. Specific instructions have also been given to the authorities that the officials dealing with the emigration formalities should give every possible assistance to the emigrants wishing to go to Cyprus, and accelerate the operation of settlement to see that no complaints arise whatsoever.

Signed
Selim II
Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

[Omer Seyhan]

oh yes and two more:

Yoruk (nomads from the Taurus mountains)
Kashmiris (I have heard only of a few cases)

So that makes 28 origins!

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing for Istanbul, 12,000 foot soldiers to remain on the island for the formation of the defensive garrison of Famagusta, Nicosia and Kyrenia. In addition, he distributed 4,000 cavalry men among the localities of Les Salines (Larnaca), Limassol, Paphos, Kyrenia, and elsewhere. The military forces were complemented by an additional 20,000 decommissioned soldiers and 2,000 cavalry remaining as colonists. These people as a whole formed the original nucleus of the fledgling Turkish-Cypriot community whose members were of Turkish origin, and by the firman (decree) of Sultan Selim II they were given fiefs for the provision of their homes, and sustenance. Steps were also taken to assist all soldiers with dependents on the mainland to bring their wives and children to Cyprus.

Nevertheless, in the opinion of Sinan Pasha, the Beylerbeyi (Governor-General) who replaced Lala Mustafa Pasha, the island was still heavily in need not only of more residents in general but also of skilled craftsmen. Consequently, after he informed Sultan Selim II of the island's condition, a firman (decree) was issued to the Kadis (chief judges) of Karaman, Íchel, Bozok (Yozgat), Alaiyye (Alanya), Teke (Antalya), and Aydin calling for a population transfer. throughout their history, this practice was commonly employed by the Ottoman Turks in rebuilding and populating the conquered territories. This was an essential part of their political theory.

In this instance Sultan Selim II recommended the transfer of one in every ten families from the areas mentioned above. It was further stipulated that their properties should be sold for their actual market value and that all monies thereby accruing should be given to them for their use in Cyprus. Furthermore, in order to provide additional assistance, they were to be exempt from all taxation for the initial three years of their residence in Cyprus.

In order to assure the effective development of the island, those individuals sent to Cyprus were, as part of the relocation programme, screened as to their moral integrity, two witnesses being required to testify to their character. In addition, efforts were made to obtain craftsmen representing a wide range of skills known to be of short supply on the island. Special attention was given primarily to relocating farmers. These were supplemented by some shoemakers, bootmakers, tailors, weavers, makers of linen skull-caps, quilt makers, spinners, cooks, candle-makers, farriers, tanners, masons, jewellers, coppersmiths, and miners. Also efforts were made to transfer families with many young daughters so as to provide spouses for unwed ex-military personnel. Ultimately, these families relocated to the island from the Black Sea regions of Trabzon, Giresun, Samsun, and Sinop.

A total of 5,720 households were transferred in this early period and re-settled in approximately one hundred empty villages in the Mesaoria, Mazoto, and Paphos regions of Cyprus. Early arrivals consisted of families primarily from Karaman, Yozgat, Alanya, and Antalya. Others quickly following came primarily from Beysehir, Aksaray, Seydişehir, Develihisar, Nigde, and Endugi. The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

BigOZ you are a BigBullug. You dassak sakulli how dare you! I am very well read on the subject, ok?

You on the other hand went to http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

to gather your information.

Historical research does not come off easy to read websites, they come from academic sources such as Nazim Beratli's Kibris Turk Tarihi, Ronald Jennings, Christians and Muslims in Ottoman Cyprus, Sir Harry Luke's Cyprus under the Turks, Prof. Atun's historical atlas, Gazioglu's Turks in Cyprus and many more.....

Be fucking cubt! yiu do not even know how to write proper Turkish never mind reading all the sources you quote.

Bre kani bozuk ipne! I do not deny what my source is - if you know so nuch you should also know that the quote in this script relies heavily on Ottoman annals and records! Who does your fucking fairy tale telling titles depend on? Fucking Sir Harry Luke? What is Atun a proffessor of. And who exactly are the rest of your kabilesi bozuk SOBs?

Now you go and fuck yourself before I do it for you ARSEHOLE!!!

This is your source: The North Cyprus Almanack, (1985), K. Rüstem & Bro. Publishers, London.

This is a book written by the TRNC Information as a tourist / investors guide to North Cyprus. Hardly an academic source is it?

Like I said, you ought to think about how reliable your sources are before quoting.

On a separate note: do you like to give other men anal sex? Are you gay?

Its ok to be gay... There is a large colourful gay Cypriot community that is coming out of its shell. I'm happy for you, but I'm not that way inclined. I'm happily married thank you.

Do not change the subject you cunt - I know you are married - your wife told me so last night!
Read the fucking decree again and REPENT you silly pretentious ignorant wanker!

The following is a summarised text of the Sultan Selim II’s Firman (decree) dated 21st September 1571, ordering the Governors of Western Central, and Eastern Anatolia and Karaman to make immediate arrange- ments for the transport of twenty thousand Turkish families to Cyprus for settlement. The original document is reproduced above.

The first settlers who arrived in the island after the issue of this Firman numbered about twenty thousand, but this figure did not include the permanent garrison, whose official strength was 2,000 infantry and 2,666 cavalry, and who were already stationed in the island after the conquest. In consequence, when in 1571, settled Turkish community first came into existence in Cyprus, its members were of Turkish origins. However, there were also few converts into Islam from the locals as well as from the Latin Catholic people.

Text of the Firman (decree)
In a report I received from Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Governor of Cyprus, it is stated that during the war which lasted three years, many parts of the island were destroyed, and a new ambitious plan is necessary to re- activate the economy and use the natural resources of the island to their utmost. Therefore, I have ordered a plan to be drawn up immediately, and have given instructions to the Governor-General (Lala Mustafa Pasha) to utilize every possible source to develop the country, and to cultivate the fields, vineyards, and farms.

Subsidy and encouragement should be given to the new settlers, especially in the agricultural sector. In addition, the labour force should be expanded to cultivate adequately the fields, farms, and vineyards in the island. Instructions have also been given to the authorities in charge of the settlement programme to see that, among the interested citizens who want to settle in the island, professionals such as craftsmen and traders, shoe-makers, boot-makers, tailors, skull-cap makers, weavers, sack-weavers, wool carders, silk dyers and manufacturers, cooks, soup-makers, candle- stick-makers, saddlers, farriers, grocers, tanners, carpenters, master builders, stone-cutters, goldsmiths, and coppersmiths should be included, and all settlers should be allowed to take their personal belongings and professional equipment.

They should also be encouraged to take their sheep, goats, and farming equipment, and other essential material that will be required to continue their normal life. The immovable properties and lands owned by citizens emigrating to the island should be entrusted to their local authorities, and their respective owners should be compensated in kind. They should also be paid pocket-money subsidies and other allowances, together with their personal travelling expenses. The emigrants who are willing to go to the island should be asked to register their names and professions with the authorities, and after completing the formalities required, should report to the port of Silifke for subsequent travel to reach their destination in Cyprus before the autumn of 1572.

They should also be given expatriate allowance and certain additional privileges such as tax exemptions. Specific instructions have also been given to the authorities that the officials dealing with the emigration formalities should give every possible assistance to the emigrants wishing to go to Cyprus, and accelerate the operation of settlement to see that no complaints arise whatsoever.

Signed
Selim II
Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

So what?

Its just one firman and you haven't said you translated it. Maybe you only need to read one text to believe something but I require more information.

Academic studies on this subject that I have read are the result of years if not decades of research - it hardly compares.

[Malapapa]

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing

etc...

The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

I wandered what the fucking origins of what you posted were.

Here's the link:

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

I'll let others judge whether it's an objective source.

Fuck off you idiot - with a Churchill avatar - I can see where yout fucking origins come from!

You stupid drunk. Pull yourself together.

I am in no denila of my source - hence the bold quote! If you are so fucking clever why did you not read the rest of it or follow the link in the text? Here is more from the same site for you:

No more please. That whole shite is 'TRNC' propaganda. I can smell it a mile off, well versed as I am in the dark arts. Now go to bed, Oz. You'll sober up in the morning. The stupidness may take a little longer to clear.

[Omer Seyhan]

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing

etc...

The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

I wandered what the fucking origins of what you posted were.

Here's the link:

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

I'll let others judge whether it's an objective source.

Fuck off you idiot - with a Churchill avatar - I can see where yout fucking origins come from!

You stupid drunk. Pull yourself together.

I am in no denila of my source - hence the bold quote! If you are so fucking clever why did you not read the rest of it or follow the link in the text? Here is more from the same site for you:

No more please. That whole shite is 'TRNC' propaganda. I can smell it a mile off, well versed as I am in the dark arts. Now go to bed, Oz. You'll sober up in the morning. The stupidness may take a little longer to clear.

I don't think he's drunk. It's a kid around the age of 12, maybe younger most likely.

[Malapapa]

What the fuck are you on man? You fucking demented or what? I have never read such a load of bollocks!

ollowing the defeat of the Venetians in 1571, Lala Mustafa Pasha, the Turkish Commander of the land forces in Cyprus, chose, before departing

etc...

The transfer to Cyprus of population from several Anatolian provinces continued immediately ensuing years with families from Konya, Kırşehir, Aydin, Çorum, Kayseri, Samsun, Eskisehir, Ankara, Burdur, and Ushak.

I wander what your fucking origins are??? [/b]

I wandered what the fucking origins of what you posted were.

Here's the link:

http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/people/ ... index.html

I'll let others judge whether it's an objective source.

Fuck off you idiot - with a Churchill avatar - I can see where yout fucking origins come from!

You stupid drunk. Pull yourself together.

I am in no denila of my source - hence the bold quote! If you are so fucking clever why did you not read the rest of it or follow the link in the text? Here is more from the same site for you:

No more please. That whole shite is 'TRNC' propaganda. I can smell it a mile off, well versed as I am in the dark arts. Now go to bed, Oz. You'll sober up in the morning. The stupidness may take a little longer to clear.

I don't think he's drunk. It's a kid around the age of 12, maybe younger most likely.

He's probably on mephedrone then. Either way he'll have a headache tomorrow.

[Omer Seyhan]

Ineffective parental discipline I think.....