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[YFred]

Says the armchair moronic wouldbe Turk.

less of the moronic wouldbe.

You're right. If you were less moronic, you'd be less of a wouldbe Turk.

Hey I am a Turk as in Turkish Cypriot so no wouldbe about it.

Turk and Turkish Cypriot are not synonymous. Is French Canadian synonymous with French? Is Hispanic American synonymous with Spanish?

Where do your original roots come from if not Turkey?

You Essek, very few Turkish speaking Cypriots can prove a direct origin in Turkey. It was not even Turkey back in the 16th - 19th century when the majority of Muslims arrived. It was Ottoman Empire Anatolia.

Most Turkish speaking Cypriots are of mixed heritage. Usually: Turkish (both Sunni and Alevi), Karamanlis, Greek, Arab (usually Egyptian), Sudanese (Nubian), Palestinian, Armenian and Maronite not to mention Latin, Romani, Kurdish (Alevi mostly), Alawaite, Jewish (from Safed), Janisseries (usually Macedonian, Serbian or Croat), Circassian, Albanian and Bosnian.

Its a pity, you've obviously never read our history.

Omer, you left out Venetians. How dare you leave out my heritage?

[Omer Seyhan]

Says the armchair moronic wouldbe Turk.

less of the moronic wouldbe.

You're right. If you were less moronic, you'd be less of a wouldbe Turk.

Hey I am a Turk as in Turkish Cypriot so no wouldbe about it.

Turk and Turkish Cypriot are not synonymous. Is French Canadian synonymous with French? Is Hispanic American synonymous with Spanish?

Where do your original roots come from if not Turkey?

You Essek, very few Turkish speaking Cypriots can prove a direct origin in Turkey. It was not even Turkey back in the 16th - 19th century when the majority of Muslims arrived. It was Ottoman Empire Anatolia.

Most Turkish speaking Cypriots are of mixed heritage. Usually: Turkish (both Sunni and Alevi), Karamanlis, Greek, Arab (usually Egyptian), Sudanese (Nubian), Palestinian, Armenian and Maronite not to mention Latin, Romani, Kurdish (Alevi mostly), Alawaite, Jewish (from Safed), Janisseries (usually Macedonian, Serbian or Croat), Circassian, Albanian and Bosnian.

Its a pity, you've obviously never read our history.

Omer, you left out Venetians. How dare you leave out my heritage?

It comes under "Latin". Its an umbrella term actually for: Venetian, Croatian, French, Genoevese, Catalan, Maltese and Norman. There may a few others I forgot from reading Jennings, Beratli...

[YFred]

Says the armchair moronic wouldbe Turk.

less of the moronic wouldbe.

You're right. If you were less moronic, you'd be less of a wouldbe Turk.

Hey I am a Turk as in Turkish Cypriot so no wouldbe about it.

Turk and Turkish Cypriot are not synonymous. Is French Canadian synonymous with French? Is Hispanic American synonymous with Spanish?

Where do your original roots come from if not Turkey?

You Essek, very few Turkish speaking Cypriots can prove a direct origin in Turkey. It was not even Turkey back in the 16th - 19th century when the majority of Muslims arrived. It was Ottoman Empire Anatolia.

Most Turkish speaking Cypriots are of mixed heritage. Usually: Turkish (both Sunni and Alevi), Karamanlis, Greek, Arab (usually Egyptian), Sudanese (Nubian), Palestinian, Armenian and Maronite not to mention Latin, Romani, Kurdish (Alevi mostly), Alawaite, Jewish (from Safed), Janisseries (usually Macedonian, Serbian or Croat), Circassian, Albanian and Bosnian.

Its a pity, you've obviously never read our history.

Omer, you left out Venetians. How dare you leave out my heritage?

It comes under "Latin". Its an umbrella term actually for: Venetian, Croatian, French, Genoevese, Catalan, Maltese and Norman. There may a few others I forgot from reading Jennings, Beratli...

[Omer Seyhan]

So Turkish Cypriot origins are:

Venetian (converts)
Croatian
French
Genoevese
Spanish
Maltese
Norman
Turkish (Sunni elite and Alevi 'heretics')
Karamanlis (agriculturalists)
Greek, (converts)
Arab (Palestinian and Egyptian),
Sudanese (slaves),
Armenian (converts)
Maronite (converts)
Romani, (assimilated over time)
Kurdish (Alevi mostly),
Alawaite,
Jewish (from Safed),
Macedonian, Serbian or Croat (Janisseries - soldiers),
Circassian (Slaves)
Albanian (Ottoman tax collector)
Bosnian (Ottoman tax collectors)

[YFred]

So Turkish Cypriot origins are:

Venetian (converts)
Croatian
French
Genoevese
Spanish
Maltese
Norman
Turkish (Sunni elite and Alevi 'heretics')
Karamanlis (agriculturalists)
Greek, (converts)
Arab (Palestinian and Egyptian),
Sudanese (slaves),
Armenian (converts)
Maronite (converts)
Romani, (assimilated over time)
Kurdish (Alevi mostly),
Alawaite,
Jewish (from Safed),
Macedonian, Serbian or Croat (Janisseries - soldiers),
Circassian (Slaves)
Albanian (Ottoman tax collector)
Bosnian (Ottoman tax collectors)

So we actually have a better history and blood line than those inbred cheekykittens and wanabe greeks.

[Omer Seyhan]

Before somebody tries to correct me, I know that some records record "Russian" slaves being sold in Cyprus to Muslims, but they are most likely Circassians.

[Omer Seyhan]

I forgot these two sorry guys:


Turkmen (weavers from Iraq)
Baha'i (From Persia)

[YFred]

I forgot these two sorry guys:


Turkmen (weavers from Iraq)
Baha'i (From Persia)

Has Piratis and GR been following this thread?

[Omer Seyhan]

oh yes and two more:

Yoruk (nomads from the Taurus mountains)
Kashmiris (I have heard only of a few cases)


So that makes 28 origins!

[Malapapa]

Its a pity, you've obviously never read our history.

Reading? What you reading for, Omer? Viewpoint's a waffle waitress when it comes to reading... especially history.