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[Omer Seyhan]

If Cypriotism is based on trust then steps need to be taken in the right direction. First Turkey needs to remove its troops from the island. Maintaining the troops just creates a permanent divide.

Love this angle of reasoning. Get the other side to build trust first then, by implication the other side works on trust?
Oh how simple and self fullfiling we wish life to be.

Omer your post is like hunderds if not thousands that have gone before it. Loads of waffle, nothing of real world substance. Yes, yes, utopia, utopia for Cypriots, the cause of problems are from the outside. Grow up - this is not some Hollywood feel good movie with the obvious good guys and bad guys where at the end of the day we all live happily ever after ... Please make sure you put all your empty popcorn cartons and soft drinks in the waste as you leave the fantasy cinema.

Dreams come before substance my dear fellow Cypriot. So....what are you doing to bring about substance?

Your post presents nothing, no passion, no aim - it is simply a paragraph of frustration, bitterness, anger and an invitation to do nothing. I pity you, what a wretched life you must have.

[Get Real!]

Unless Turkey willingly or forcefully abides by international law, Cyprus will never see the light of day…

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

[Gasman]

Cyprus will never see the light of day…

What do you mean by that?

[Get Real!]

Cyprus will never see the light of day…

What do you mean by that?

You tell me... what does that expression mean?

[BirKibrisli]

But...but...but....We are told Cyprus is a Greek island every day...Turkish Cypriots are just Ottoman remnants responsible for the real and imaginary sins of the Ottomans going back to 1571...What is more the TCs are thieves and traitors who voluntarily left their homes,their ancestors' lands back in the 60s,to help Turkey's territorial ambitions...Why,the TCs even walked out of the RoC govenment for the same reason and spent 11 years huddled in enclaves waiting for the axe to fall...What do you say to that Omer Seyhan??? Which Cypriotism are you talking about???


And remember your signature...Yanitlamamak daha da ayiptir...

[denizaksulu]

Cypriotism or a organised love of Cyprus and all things Cypriot is the heart and soul of Cypriot Unity today. With Cypriotism Cypriot unity cannot work.....

But in truth Cypriotism is also an unfinished business. It is an unfinished business which the vast majority of the Cypriot people deep down want to see brought to completion.

Are there any real doubts about where the great brave rebel leaders Halil Aga and Mehmet Boyacioglu would stand on the great issues of our time?

This Proclamation is about self-determination and democracy. Does anyone think that our ancestors would settle for a partitioned Cyprus?

Our ancestors laboured in the fields day and night, ploughed the red Cypriot earth from which they exalted a mere peasant child to the rank of Ottoman grand vizier - Mehmet Kamil and Mehmet Emin Pasha. Two Cypriots grand viziers of the entire Ottoman empire not once but 8 times combined! How we Cypriots rise....

Does anyone believe that they would like to see their homeland split in two? Their people separated by barbed wire? Their descendants displaced?

Does anyone believe that they would settle for anything less than one Cyprus?

Why should a Greek, Turkish or British Minister take decisions on the future of our children?

Why should a Greek, Turkish or British Minister have the power to decide when Cypriots can meet and work together?

If they aren't able to destroy the desire for Cypriot unity and freedom, they won't break you. They won't break you because the desire for freedom, and the freedom of the Cypriot people, is in our hearts.

The day will dawn when all the people of Cyprus will have the desire for freedom to show.

My sentiments exactly Omer Seyhan. This what I have strived for in my own way. I have tried and will still keep on trying to bridge that gap which has been driven between our communities by the right wing element from both sides. Unfortunately we have one enormous obstacle; wrong 40,000 obstacles preventing us this goal plus those that call Cyprus a Greek island. As long as there are those that call Cyprus a Greek island and a Turkish island we have an uphill struggle.

[Malapapa]

But...but...but....We are told Cyprus is a Greek island every day...Turkish Cypriots are just Ottoman remnants responsible for the real and imaginary sins of the Ottomans going back to 1571...

Yes? And if someone called you a stupid donkey, what would you do? Go along with it or prove them wrong?

What is more the TCs are thieves and traitors who voluntarily left their homes,their ancestors' lands back in the 60s,to help Turkey's territorial ambitions...Why,the TCs even walked out of the RoC govenment for the same reason and spent 11 years huddled in enclaves waiting for the axe to fall...What do you say to that Omer Seyhan??? Which Cypriotism are you talking about???.

The one where Cypriots stop being victims.

[BirKibrisli]

But...but...but....We are told Cyprus is a Greek island every day...Turkish Cypriots are just Ottoman remnants responsible for the real and imaginary sins of the Ottomans going back to 1571...

Yes? And if someone called you a stupid donkey, what would you do? Go along with it or prove them wrong?

What is more the TCs are thieves and traitors who voluntarily left their homes,their ancestors' lands back in the 60s,to help Turkey's territorial ambitions...Why,the TCs even walked out of the RoC govenment for the same reason and spent 11 years huddled in enclaves waiting for the axe to fall...What do you say to that Omer Seyhan??? Which Cypriotism are you talking about???.

The one where Cypriots stop being victims.

I am not talking to you,you stupid little upstart!
I want to hear from Omer Seyhan...Unless YOU happen to be HIM...

[Viewpoint]

Omer state how you would fordge unity how do you see BBF if you see it at all?

Everybody can see your bad will and nobody is fooled by your apparent call for a 'healthy' debate. You've already decided your stand - hence the flag and slogan beneath your screen name, so why should anybody debate with you on a Cyprus forum for all Cypriots?

You have failed from the outset you are full of utopian idealist dreams and no real concrete measure to create unity, what not put forward you ideas for a unified island test them on this forum so it may help you how real Cypriots from both sides of the divide think, what are you afraid of?

[Viewpoint]

I want to hear from Omer as well, let have some concrete ideas of hwo he sees a united Cyprus and how he intends to get there, the rest of his post is pie in the sky in other words playing to the terraces.