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[DTA]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

[Paphitis]

Sure! The TCs will never accept.

[miltiades]

Language does not in my opinion necessarily matters provided communication can be effective . I speak Greek but I'm a Cypriot I also speak English but I'm also a Brit !!

[Malapapa]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

DTA, many important aspects of Cypriot identity, including the language, were largely mixed, or at least shared until the island's social fabric was deliberately polarised by outsiders and extremists. Haven't you seen YFred write in Cypriot? (The only time he makes any sense). The Welsh have shown how a traditional vernacular can be resurrected if there's political will and popular support. Theirs was all but dead. Even today only 20% of them can speak it.

http://wales.gov.uk/topics/welshlanguage/?lang=en

However, don't under-estimate the power of English which will probably become the common lingua franca of the island after reunification, if it isn't already. (Koine Greek came to perform this function many thousands of years previously, due to the powerful influence of Alexander's empire).

Again, the parallels are in Wales. Despite the country now having its own official language, which is actively promoted and now taught in schools, the Welsh Assembly is conducted largely in English.

[Gasman]

Yep - go with English. It is rapidly becoming the modern world lingua franca.
It is the second most widely spoken language in the world, (after Mandarin).
The default language of Aviation worldwide.
The language most used for computer programming and keywords.
Fast becoming the lingua franca of the EU, international business, science, technology etc.

[apc2010]

what ever happened to esperanto..???

[Gasman]

apc! I was just thinking about that! Yeah whatever DID happen to Esperanto?

Some think we should have a new worldwide language and call it 'Globish' lol!

I think I prefer 'Esperanto' to 'Globish' - that's ugly.

How about 'SCRIBBLE'? I know a lot of people who only talk Scribble already!

[DTA]

Those saying go with English are missing the point, if we have a concerted effort to mix the languages accepted by both sides as a compromise by the other, then we will have moved forward emmensly, and we will have beginings of something that we never had before a hegonmous Cypriot culture.

[YFred]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

DTA, many important aspects of Cypriot identity, including the language, were largely mixed, or at least shared until the island's social fabric was deliberately polarised by outsiders and extremists. Haven't you seen YFred write in Cypriot? (The only time he makes any sense). The Welsh have shown how a traditional vernacular can be resurrected if there's political will and popular support. Theirs was all but dead. Even today only 20% of them can speak it.

http://wales.gov.uk/topics/welshlanguage/?lang=en

However, don't under-estimate the power of English which will probably become the common lingua franca of the island after reunification, if it isn't already. (Koine Greek came to perform this function many thousands of years previously, due to the powerful influence of Alexander's empire).

Again, the parallels are in Wales. Despite the country now having its own official language, which is actively promoted and now taught in schools, the Welsh Assembly is conducted largely in English.

Mal let me correct you my friend. When you say I write Cypriot is in fact Lurucadi GC. It is not Cypriot. In Lurucina we spoke both GC and TC. We continued to speak both GC and TC even when Turkification was implemented and 10 GC families had left the village in 1958. This has happened despite the Turkification and the ban as well as fines for speaking GC. Because we are resolute people and will not go where we do not want to go.

Despite all the bans on football, we actually broke the ban and arranged a football match with Limbya secondary school.
Now there lies the revolutionary ideas of self determination of the top order.
Unlike most people who follow like sheep one nationalistic idea or another.

[Malapapa]

Mal let me correct you my friend. When you say I write Cypriot is in fact Lurucadi GC. It is not Cypriot. In Lurucina we spoke both GC and TC.

Fair enough. But a common form of what I term 'Cypriot' and you term 'Lurucadi GC' was spoken and understood throughout the island by all shades of Cypriots, including many if not most of what we term TCs. It was the main vernacular of the island, evolved from Koine Greek but coloured through the centuries by the Arabs, Venetians, Franks, Ottomans and, of course, the British. That's why I believe it's worthy of the term 'Cypriot', though I appreciate 'Kibrizlija' was spoken by some, but, I understand, by no means all TCs.