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[denizaksulu]

Deniz, next thing you will say is that you are not responsible for the invasion by my uncle Lala Mustafa Pasha. Stand up and take responsibility like they do but lying down.

Ofcourse it was not. Havent you ever read Feridun Fazil Tulbentci?

Our Jewish friend Joseph Nasi (The Duke of Naxos) encouraged Sultan Selim II to capture Cyprus just for its Commandaria. Selim II name was not Selim the Sot for nothing. Lala Mustafa Pasha duly obliged. Nothing to do with me guv. Honest.

No but his name rings a bell.


I'll try and read up on it. Was it written by one of the yfred clan.

I said Commandaria, not Chianti.

[EricSeans]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

DTA, many important aspects of Cypriot identity, including the language, were largely mixed, or at least shared until the island's social fabric was deliberately polarised by outsiders and extremists. Haven't you seen YFred write in Cypriot? (The only time he makes any sense). The Welsh have shown how a traditional vernacular can be resurrected if there's political will and popular support. Theirs was all but dead. Even today only 20% of them can speak it.

http://wales.gov.uk/topics/welshlanguage/?lang=en

However, don't under-estimate the power of English which will probably become the common lingua franca of the island after reunification, if it isn't already. (Koine Greek came to perform this function many thousands of years previously, due to the powerful influence of Alexander's empire).

Again, the parallels are in Wales. Despite the country now having its own official language, which is actively promoted and now taught in schools, the Welsh Assembly is conducted largely in English.

Not to mention Scots Gaelic, which my kids aged five and nine can speak far better than me. By the way, cò an caora sin còmhla riut a chunnaic mi an-raoir?

[Malapapa]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

DTA, many important aspects of Cypriot identity, including the language, were largely mixed, or at least shared until the island's social fabric was deliberately polarised by outsiders and extremists. Haven't you seen YFred write in Cypriot? (The only time he makes any sense). The Welsh have shown how a traditional vernacular can be resurrected if there's political will and popular support. Theirs was all but dead. Even today only 20% of them can speak it.

http://wales.gov.uk/topics/welshlanguage/?lang=en

However, don't under-estimate the power of English which will probably become the common lingua franca of the island after reunification, if it isn't already. (Koine Greek came to perform this function many thousands of years previously, due to the powerful influence of Alexander's empire).

Again, the parallels are in Wales. Despite the country now having its own official language, which is actively promoted and now taught in schools, the Welsh Assembly is conducted largely in English.

Not to mention Scots Gaelic, which my kids aged five and nine can speak far better than me. By the way, cò an caora sin còmhla riut a chunnaic mi an-raoir?

I coudn't say. The wool was covering my eyes.

[EricSeans]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

DTA, many important aspects of Cypriot identity, including the language, were largely mixed, or at least shared until the island's social fabric was deliberately polarised by outsiders and extremists. Haven't you seen YFred write in Cypriot? (The only time he makes any sense). The Welsh have shown how a traditional vernacular can be resurrected if there's political will and popular support. Theirs was all but dead. Even today only 20% of them can speak it.

http://wales.gov.uk/topics/welshlanguage/?lang=en

However, don't under-estimate the power of English which will probably become the common lingua franca of the island after reunification, if it isn't already. (Koine Greek came to perform this function many thousands of years previously, due to the powerful influence of Alexander's empire).

Again, the parallels are in Wales. Despite the country now having its own official language, which is actively promoted and now taught in schools, the Welsh Assembly is conducted largely in English.

Not to mention Scots Gaelic, which my kids aged five and nine can speak far better than me. By the way, cò an caora sin còmhla riut a chunnaic mi an-raoir?

I coudn't say. The wool was covering my eyes.

[DT.]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

I'm not gonna start changing the language my forefathers and my kids speak now DTA if thats what you're asking. Cyprus has other problems than just linguistic communication.

Taking away the history of this island is not a solution. We should be proud of our history and not sacrifice it for the sake of a political conflict.

[YFred]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

I'm not gonna start changing the language my forefathers and my kids speak now DTA if thats what you're asking. Cyprus has other problems than just linguistic communication.

Taking away the history of this island is not a solution. We should be proud of our history and not sacrifice it for the sake of a political conflict.

How do you feel about your children learning Terkish? For the sake of understanding and all that.

[DT.]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

I'm not gonna start changing the language my forefathers and my kids speak now DTA if thats what you're asking. Cyprus has other problems than just linguistic communication.

Taking away the history of this island is not a solution. We should be proud of our history and not sacrifice it for the sake of a political conflict.

How do you feel about your children learning Terkish? For the sake of understanding and all that.

no problem whatsoever....I'm learning a few words myself.

[YFred]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

I'm not gonna start changing the language my forefathers and my kids speak now DTA if thats what you're asking. Cyprus has other problems than just linguistic communication.

Taking away the history of this island is not a solution. We should be proud of our history and not sacrifice it for the sake of a political conflict.

How do you feel about your children learning Terkish? For the sake of understanding and all that.

no problem whatsoever....I'm learning a few words myself.

Chock iyi. Efgaristo.

How about using Latin characters so you can begin to Europeanise properly like the turks did in 1923.

[DT.]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

I'm not gonna start changing the language my forefathers and my kids speak now DTA if thats what you're asking. Cyprus has other problems than just linguistic communication.

Taking away the history of this island is not a solution. We should be proud of our history and not sacrifice it for the sake of a political conflict.

How do you feel about your children learning Terkish? For the sake of understanding and all that.

no problem whatsoever....I'm learning a few words myself.

Chock iyi. Efgaristo.

How about using Latin characters so you can begin to Europeanise properly like the turks did in 1923.

I'm not in control of the Greek Language.

[YFred]

Ok I consider you guys different from the greek nationalists. So would you consider a mixed language between Turkish and Greek like it was becoming when my father lived in Cyprus? A mixed culture? A mixed heritage? [/list]

I'm not gonna start changing the language my forefathers and my kids speak now DTA if thats what you're asking. Cyprus has other problems than just linguistic communication.

Taking away the history of this island is not a solution. We should be proud of our history and not sacrifice it for the sake of a political conflict.

How do you feel about your children learning Terkish? For the sake of understanding and all that.

no problem whatsoever....I'm learning a few words myself.

Chock iyi. Efgaristo.

How about using Latin characters so you can begin to Europeanise properly like the turks did in 1923.

I'm not in control of the Greek Language.

I did not say you were, but you can start a champagne for the good of the whole of Cyprus. Perhaps that will help towards understanding and eventual proper unification.