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[YFred]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Perhaps we can go back to 1960 and kick out all foreginers that arrived both in the north and the south. Damn the fuse has blown on my time machine so we have to delay that activity a while longer.

You can decide who is staying in the south and we'll decide in the north. Now we can't be fairer than that can we?

I know what you are going to say to that so no need to reply.

[Piratis]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Perhaps we can go back to 1960 and kick out all foreginers that arrived both in the north and the south. Damn the fuse has blown on my time machine so we have to delay that activity a while longer.

You can decide who is staying in the south and we'll decide in the north. Now we can't be fairer than that can we?

I know what you are going to say to that so no need to reply.

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

Republic of Cyprus has laws, just like every other country, and only the relevant authorities of Republic of Cyprus can determine if a foreigner can be given permit to be in Cyprus.

I do not have the right to go to Turkey without the permission of the Turkish authorities. And certainly Cyprus has no right to ethnically cleanse part of Turkey from the Turks and replace them with Cypriot Soldiers and Settlers. Similarly Turkey has no right to do such thing in Cyprus.

[YFred]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Perhaps we can go back to 1960 and kick out all foreginers that arrived both in the north and the south. Damn the fuse has blown on my time machine so we have to delay that activity a while longer.

You can decide who is staying in the south and we'll decide in the north. Now we can't be fairer than that can we?

I know what you are going to say to that so no need to reply.

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

Republic of Cyprus has laws, just like every other country, and only the relevant authorities of Republic of Cyprus can determine if a foreigner can be given permit to be in Cyprus.

I do not have the right to go to Turkey without the permission of the Turkish authorities. And certainly Cyprus has no right to ethnically cleanse part of Turkey from the Turks and replace them with Cypriot Soldiers and Settlers. Similarly Turkey has no right to do such thing in Cyprus.

Really, but even the eu recognises that roc has no authority in the north.

[Piratis]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Perhaps we can go back to 1960 and kick out all foreginers that arrived both in the north and the south. Damn the fuse has blown on my time machine so we have to delay that activity a while longer.

You can decide who is staying in the south and we'll decide in the north. Now we can't be fairer than that can we?

I know what you are going to say to that so no need to reply.

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

Republic of Cyprus has laws, just like every other country, and only the relevant authorities of Republic of Cyprus can determine if a foreigner can be given permit to be in Cyprus.

I do not have the right to go to Turkey without the permission of the Turkish authorities. And certainly Cyprus has no right to ethnically cleanse part of Turkey from the Turks and replace them with Cypriot Soldiers and Settlers. Similarly Turkey has no right to do such thing in Cyprus.

Really, but even the eu recognises that roc has no authority in the north.

Quite the contrary. EU recognizes that the north part of Cyprus is territory of Republic of Cyprus which is currently under the illegal occupation of Turkey.

[Gasman]

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

It might 'belong' to RoC but it is stated over and over that EU whatever is 'suspended' there and that the RoC does not have 'control over it'.

And it is just FACT that the 'TRNC' authorities are controlling it and what happens within it. Whether that be right or wrong and whether you like it or not.

You cannot deny the REALITY.

As a Cypriot in Cyprus, even you cannot visit that part of it without showing your passport to them at the crossings. Nor can I. So I acknowledge the fact of WHO is control over there. And it ain't the RoC.

[YFred]

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

It might 'belong' to RoC but it is stated over and over that EU whatever is 'suspended' there and that the RoC does not have 'control over it'.

And it is just FACT that the 'TRNC' authorities are controlling it and what happens within it. Whether that be right or wrong and whether you like it or not.

You cannot deny the REALITY.

As a Cypriot in Cyprus, even you cannot visit that part of it without showing your passport to them at the crossings. Nor can I. So I acknowledge the fact of WHO is control over there. And it ain't the RoC.

I break it to him gently and you come in like a bull es in a china shop and shock him into reality. I hope you take the responsibility of what he may do next you hear.

[Oracle]

Tim's main priority (like most Brits) was to keep the Turkish influence alive in Cyprus! (Translation work in his case!)

We don't need such people ...

Greek is the only official language required; with English as the business/working language.

[YFred]

Tim's main priority (like most Brits) was to keep the Turkish influence alive in Cyprus! (Translation work in his case!)

We don't need such people ...

Greek is the only official language required; with English as the business/working language.

Thoughts like that no wander he called you "ciracik". Gosh that is strong stuff. One thing he was not was selfish, but what would you know?

[Gasman]

Tim's main priority (like most Brits) was to keep the Turkish influence alive in Cyprus! (Translation work in his case!)

We don't need such people ...

Greek is the only official language required; with English as the business/working language.

I suppose you are excluding yourself as an offical Brit from the 'most Brits' comment?

You on the other hand, obviously want to KILL all Turkish influence. You are such a hypocrite. The same hypocrite who said:

Cyprus is Greek

but also

The only Greek influence in the RoC comes from their EU partnership...

and

I adore cultural diversity and see it as part of Man's uniqueness ... so I would not deem to impart any dissolution or remove any records of contributions to this sphere.

but also

The RoC with the help of EU, will remove all Turkish influence from Cyprus, once and for all ......
The EU has to take note and prepare to annihilate you from European soil

You microcephalicgreekophile



As for the people we don't need on the forum. Left to you - it would consist of about 3 members beside yourself. About the only time your posts are quite easy to understand is when you are telling someone or other to fuck off and stay off the forum.

[CopperLine]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Good, glad to read that you support universal human rights, Piratis, including of Turks. (Why do I ask about Turks ? Because most of your posts seem to discriminate against human beings who, from no choice of their own, were born as citizens of Turkey. I didn't task anything about Cyprus invading Turkey - what a bizarre thing to suggest - so I think you were probably just jumping ahead of yourself there). I look forward to your robust defence of the human rights of Turkish citizens as well as Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus, such as enjoyment of property, freedom of expression (in Turkish) in the Republic of Cyprus, right to vote and contest European elections in Cyprus, freedom of trade union association .... welcome to the struggle.