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[YFred]

Tim's main priority (like most Brits) was to keep the Turkish influence alive in Cyprus! (Translation work in his case!)

We don't need such people ...

Greek is the only official language required; with English as the business/working language.

I suppose you are excluding yourself as an offical Brit from the 'most Brits' comment?

You on the other hand, obviously want to KILL all Turkish influence. You are such a hypocrite. The same hypocrite who said:

Cyprus is Greek

but also

The only Greek influence in the RoC comes from their EU partnership...

and

I adore cultural diversity and see it as part of Man's uniqueness ... so I would not deem to impart any dissolution or remove any records of contributions to this sphere.

but also

The RoC with the help of EU, will remove all Turkish influence from Cyprus, once and for all ......
The EU has to take note and prepare to annihilate you from European soil

You microcephalicgreekophile



As for the people we don't need on the forum. Left to you - it would consist of about 3 members beside yourself. About the only time your posts are quite easy to understand is when you are telling someone or other to fuck off and stay off the forum.

That told her. Our little cira will not takle that lying down.

[CopperLine]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Perhaps we can go back to 1960 and kick out all foreginers that arrived both in the north and the south. Damn the fuse has blown on my time machine so we have to delay that activity a while longer.

You can decide who is staying in the south and we'll decide in the north. Now we can't be fairer than that can we?

I know what you are going to say to that so no need to reply.

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

Republic of Cyprus has laws, just like every other country, and only the relevant authorities of Republic of Cyprus can determine if a foreigner can be given permit to be in Cyprus.

I do not have the right to go to Turkey without the permission of the Turkish authorities. And certainly Cyprus has no right to ethnically cleanse part of Turkey from the Turks and replace them with Cypriot Soldiers and Settlers. Similarly Turkey has no right to do such thing in Cyprus.

Really, but even the eu recognises that roc has no authority in the north.

Quite the contrary. EU recognizes that the north part of Cyprus is territory of Republic of Cyprus which is currently under the illegal occupation of Turkey.

What efforts, Piratis, were made by the Republic of Cyprus to ensure that the basic human rights (right to vote) of Turkish Cypriots were upheld in the European elections (the Europe which sees the whole of Cyprus as being part of the EU, and the EU member in the form of the Republic of Cyprus which claims authority, including represntative authority over the whole of Cyprus) ?

[denizaksulu]

Tim's main priority (like most Brits) was to keep the Turkish influence alive in Cyprus! (Translation work in his case!)

We don't need such people ...

Greek is the only official language required; with English as the business/working language.

Hi Oracle. Have you had a nice break?


...........and the language of the CF is English. Thats why he translates. Savvy?

[Oracle]

Tim's main priority (like most Brits) was to keep the Turkish influence alive in Cyprus! (Translation work in his case!)

We don't need such people ...

Greek is the only official language required; with English as the business/working language.

Hi Oracle. Have you had a nice break?


...........and the language of the CF is English. Thats why he translates. Savvy?

Sorry, Deniz. Have not missed the pipsqueak one little bit. What's more, I wish he would take that other trolling, useless compatriot away with him. Maybe the two saddos can marry each other!

[Gasman]

Saddo? You come across as the SADDEST person on the forum. Seething with frustration.

One of your great sadnesses obviously being that you cannot actually say who stays and who goes on this forum.

Just constantly post telling people to fuck off from it!

[YFred]

:lol:

Saddo? You come across as the SADDEST person on the forum. Seething with frustration.

I see you are getting on like a house on fire. What ever you do, do not meet at a petrol station.

[Piratis]

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

It might 'belong' to RoC but it is stated over and over that EU whatever is 'suspended' there and that the RoC does not have 'control over it'.

And it is just FACT that the 'TRNC' authorities are controlling it and what happens within it. Whether that be right or wrong and whether you like it or not.

You cannot deny the REALITY.

As a Cypriot in Cyprus, even you cannot visit that part of it without showing your passport to them at the crossings. Nor can I. So I acknowledge the fact of WHO is control over there. And it ain't the RoC.

The reality is that the north part of Cyprus is under the illegal occupation of Turkey. Who is controlling the occupied part of Cyprus is the invader, not any "trnc". Still, the laws of Republic of Cyprus have to be respected in the whole island (which is why the Orams lost their case)

This is the reality accepted by the EU.

[Piratis]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Good, glad to read that you support universal human rights, Piratis, including of Turks. (Why do I ask about Turks ? Because most of your posts seem to discriminate against human beings who, from no choice of their own, were born as citizens of Turkey. I didn't task anything about Cyprus invading Turkey - what a bizarre thing to suggest - so I think you were probably just jumping ahead of yourself there). I look forward to your robust defence of the human rights of Turkish citizens as well as Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus, such as enjoyment of property, freedom of expression (in Turkish) in the Republic of Cyprus, right to vote and contest European elections in Cyprus, freedom of trade union association .... welcome to the struggle.

You are wrong. I have no problem with Turks or TCs in general, but with those who support racist discrimination and segregation in Cyprus, which unfortunately seems to be the majority of TCs and Turks.

[YFred]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Good, glad to read that you support universal human rights, Piratis, including of Turks. (Why do I ask about Turks ? Because most of your posts seem to discriminate against human beings who, from no choice of their own, were born as citizens of Turkey. I didn't task anything about Cyprus invading Turkey - what a bizarre thing to suggest - so I think you were probably just jumping ahead of yourself there). I look forward to your robust defence of the human rights of Turkish citizens as well as Turkish Cypriots living in northern Cyprus, such as enjoyment of property, freedom of expression (in Turkish) in the Republic of Cyprus, right to vote and contest European elections in Cyprus, freedom of trade union association .... welcome to the struggle.

You are wrong. I have no problem with Turks or TCs in general, but with those who support racist discrimination and segregation in Cyprus, which unfortunately seems to be the majority of TCs and Turks.

Piratis, do you honestly believe that you can bring the two communities together today as was in 1960 and you will be able to contain any problems under the law?

[Piratis]

What I support is democracy, human rights for every singe Cypriot, and freedom to Cyprus so the Cypriot people can democratically choose what they want for their own island. I say no to ethnic cleansing, no to segregation and racist discrimination.

Maybe the problem lies in what you don't say, Piratis. You say here that you support human rights for Cypriots, but omit to say whether you support human rights for non-Cypriots, including Turks. If you'd said that you supported universal human rights things would be clear; but as it is you limit your support to Cypriot human rights which is usually then qualified by you saying that the will of the majority must be followed. A standard view of universal human rights - one you seem to disagree with - is that a majority view, however democratic, must not and cannot undermine those basic universal human rights.

In sum, do you support universal human rights which includes Turks as well ? Yes or no ?

Of course I support the human rights of all universally!

Why are you asking about the Turks? Do I support for Cyprus to invade Turkey and violate the human rights of the Turks?

It is Turkey which invaded our island and violates our rights with her soldiers and her settlers who are illegally occupying our lands and prevent us from returning to them.

Perhaps we can go back to 1960 and kick out all foreginers that arrived both in the north and the south. Damn the fuse has blown on my time machine so we have to delay that activity a while longer.

You can decide who is staying in the south and we'll decide in the north. Now we can't be fairer than that can we?

I know what you are going to say to that so no need to reply.

The north does not belong to you to take decisions for it.

Republic of Cyprus has laws, just like every other country, and only the relevant authorities of Republic of Cyprus can determine if a foreigner can be given permit to be in Cyprus.

I do not have the right to go to Turkey without the permission of the Turkish authorities. And certainly Cyprus has no right to ethnically cleanse part of Turkey from the Turks and replace them with Cypriot Soldiers and Settlers. Similarly Turkey has no right to do such thing in Cyprus.

Really, but even the eu recognises that roc has no authority in the north.

Quite the contrary. EU recognizes that the north part of Cyprus is territory of Republic of Cyprus which is currently under the illegal occupation of Turkey.

What efforts, Piratis, were made by the Republic of Cyprus to ensure that the basic human rights (right to vote) of Turkish Cypriots were upheld in the European elections (the Europe which sees the whole of Cyprus as being part of the EU, and the EU member in the form of the Republic of Cyprus which claims authority, including represntative authority over the whole of Cyprus) ?

The TCs were free to participate in the elections in the same way as every other Cypriot. Not good enough for you?