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[vaughanwilliams]

I said several weeks ago that we should take our cases to our own courts. Those who are illegally trespassing on our land can be sued for this.

Those who are trespassing on our land, be it TCs or foreigners, will have to pay (1) a fine for their illegality and (2) rent for the time they have been using our properties.

This will be very easy to do with EU citizens who have assets in other EU countries (see Orams case) and even easier to be done with TCs who have assets in the free areas of the Republic of Cyprus.

Beyond that we all know what is the one and only way to liberate Cyprus. Whatever we do until then will be just to ease the problems of our refugees, not permanently solve the problem of Turkish aggression and expansionism against our island.

I don't know.
Enlighten me, I could do with a laugh.

[YFred]

I said several weeks ago that we should take our cases to our own courts. Those who are illegally trespassing on our land can be sued for this.

Those who are trespassing on our land, be it TCs or foreigners, will have to pay (1) a fine for their illegality and (2) rent for the time they have been using our properties.

This will be very easy to do with EU citizens who have assets in other EU countries (see Orams case) and even easier to be done with TCs who have assets in the free areas of the Republic of Cyprus.

Beyond that we all know what is the one and only way to liberate Cyprus. Whatever we do until then will be just to ease the problems of our refugees, not permanently solve the problem of Turkish aggression and expansionism against our island.

I don't know.
Enlighten me, I could do with a laugh.

VW let the boy dream and the nurse will wake him up in a while for his medication.

[vaughanwilliams]

So, let me get this, I have been left property in the north, I am prevented from access to it through no fault of my own, and now I have no rights due to the time lapse that I have never been to it???

What sort of absurd logic is that? Whatever happend to the ECJ ruling that the original legal owner is still the legal owner. Of the British High Court that said the same thing during the orams case.

Are we to believe that there rulings were meaningless and now the ECHR, which is coming over as being 'Bent' to decide on my property rights? Who are they to strip me of my universal rights to my property, becasus if thats the case, I will go and claim acres of space world wide and sit on it for 30+years and claim its mine??? Utter bollocks. They fucked up with the IPC decision and now this. Smacks of some corruption somewhere, don't you think????


Fucking Hell!

"..no rights due to the time lapse that I have never been to it???"

No, it's due to the fact that you had never lived there before 1974, not never been to it since.
People who have never lived in a place cannot claim to have lost it.
Property you have lived in can be called a Home.
Property you have never lived in is just a house, not a home.

[hissyfits]

There will be no more Oram's type cases. Lets be clear. The ECHR will hear the last 30 odd cases and then, that is it, they have stated all claims will go through the IPC which they will be monitoring for the next 2 years.

Is there some misunderstanding here? The ruling remains that the land or property still stays with the legal owner but you cannot claim compensation for loss of your home if you did not live there. So basically this means that if you were left property but you did not live there you cannot claim compensation under Article 8. However this does not effect ownership.

[vaughanwilliams]

There will be no more Oram's type cases. Lets be clear. The ECHR will hear the last 30 odd cases and then, that is it, they have stated all claims will go through the IPC which they will be monitoring for the next 2 years.

Is there some misunderstanding here? The ruling remains that the land or property still stays with the legal owner but you cannot claim compensation for loss of your home if you did not live there. So basically this means that if you were left property but you did not live there you cannot claim compensation under Article 8. However this does not effect ownership.

Now we're getting somewhere.
However, is it not true to say that compensation can be claimed, but restitution can't?

[hissyfits]

In theory restitution can be claimed via the IPC. What we need to see is, if when people make a claim for restitution, it is honoured or on what grounds it is rejected.

That's why it is important to test the system. I am not sure that the Government suggesting to their people not to use the IPC is in their best interest. There will be a property solution but with the stance currently being taken I feel there is the risk of the solution not coming from within.

[Acikgoz]

But why advise against going to the IPC?

[Bananiot]

Piratis

Beyond that we all know what is the one and only way to liberate Cyprus. Whatever we do until then will be just to ease the problems of our refugees, not permanently solve the problem of Turkish aggression and expansionism against our island.

Tell us, once again Piratis, what is the one and only way to liberate our island? Perhaps you can once again reveal to the aggressor that anything we engage in at the moment is just a smokescreen to gain time until the balance of power changes and we strike hard at the enemy. In the meantime, if the aggressor takes heed of your revelations, should we anticipate a preemptive attack? Or, are the stupid Turks not capable of understanding such advance intelligence?

Piratis, you are a joke!

[Gasman]

Is there some misunderstanding here? The ruling remains that the land or property still stays with the legal owner but you cannot claim compensation for loss of your home if you did not live there. So basically this means that if you were left property but you did not live there you cannot claim compensation under Article 8. However this does not effect ownership.

Not quite correct. They are saying even if you DID live there, but left when you were 11 or 12, you cannot claim you lost your home or whatever the wording is.

It is not just restricted to those who NEVER lived there.

[Get Real!]

ECHR DELIVERS LANDMARK RULING ON PROPERTY CASE

If Cyprus liberates herself through sacrifice she will have also pissed on this “ruling” and any other illegal stupidity declared in the past…

A 24 hour operation to secure the shores of Cyprus and I’d like to see this “mighty” Turkey attempt to land on our soil again...