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Postby YFred » Fri May 28, 2010 2:31 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Brazil and Iran can look after themselves but Turkey overestimates herself. If Turkey continues to assume that she is a superpower and able to play ball alongside Iran & Brazil against the opposition, it may well end up being the geopolitical reshuffling that Cyprus has been waiting for…

So Erdogan, please keep it up! :wink:


As said previously, the balance is starting to shift.

First pissing off Israel and the the Yanks, brill. I want to shake erdogans hand.

Can't wait for the fall out.

Start packing you lot, you'll be going home real soon!

My case is packed. It's been packed for 35 years, where are we goin? and more to the point how long for?
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Postby Lit » Fri May 28, 2010 2:36 pm

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Postby YFred » Fri May 28, 2010 2:42 pm

halil wrote:Turkey, Brazil cement strategic partnership with focus on trade

An ongoing strategic partnership between Turkey and Brazil was boosted with a series of prominent trade agreements sealed during Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Tayyip Erdoğan's visit to the country this week.

One of the most important deals signed during Erdoğan's visit was an agreement to prevent double taxation -- signed on Thursday -- which is expected to benefit and ease procedures for investors from both countries. Turkey and Brazil already enjoy a recently concluded free trade agreement (FTA) between Turkey and the four-nation trading bloc Mercosur, which includes Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay. Another important portion of the visit was the First Turkey Export Goods Fair, organized by the İstanbul Chamber of Commerce (İTO) in Sao Paolo. Around 151 Turkish firms had the opportunity to promote their products to the Mercosur region at the fair, which took place this week.

Both members of the United Nations Security Council and G20, Turkey and Brazil have in the past few years intensified their quest to improve relations and contribute to global peace with enhanced political cooperation. The most recent example to this was a nuclear fuel swap deal signed between Iran, Turkey and Brazil. Economic relations between the world’s 10th and 17th largest economies also benefited from such cooperation; Brazil’s Petrobras has been carrying out joint oil research activities with the Turkish Petroleum Corporation (TPAO) in the Black Sea since last year.

Erdoğan, who started his official visit early on Wednesday, was accompanied by several Cabinet ministers and a group of Turkish businessmen. He participated in a forum of the Alliance of Civilizations hosted by his Brazilian counterpart, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. The prime minister also participated in a Turkish-Brazilian Business Forum.

Erdoğan met with some of the leading business figures in Brazil, visited Embraer, the third biggest aircraft factory in the world, and attended the inauguration ceremony of Turkey’s new Consulate General in Sao Paulo on Wednesday. Erdoğan is the first Turkish prime minister to visit Brazil.

Erdoğan said on Wednesday that “a new period starts between Turkey and Brazil today.” “We are aiming to improve bilateral relations between Turkey and Brazil with this strategic partnership,” Erdoğan said at a Turkey-Brazil business forum in Sao Paolo. Recalling that Turkey managed to overcome the global financial crisis last year with relatively little damage, the prime minister said active initiatives in foreign policy had positive reflections on foreign trade. “As Turkey served peace in its region with the ‘zero problems with neighbors’ approach, it gained the confidence of the neighboring countries as a resource of compromise and mediation. We have broadened the axis of foreign trade and commercial relations to a great extent,” he explained. Erdoğan stressed the government has been endeavoring to boost cooperation with Latin America.

“Brazil is Turkey’s main trade partner in Latin America. Turkey’s trade volume with Brazil, which was $1.7 billion in 2008, dropped to $1.4 billion in 2009 with the impact of the global financial crisis. The figures in question do not reflect the real potential. The Turkish and Brazilian governments are determined to increase bilateral trade volume,” Erdoğan said.

Erdoğan also said the government is content with developing cooperation in energy with Brazil.

Addressing Brazilian businessmen, Erdoğan said Turkey, which has a central geographical position where one can reach over 52 countries in a three-hour flight, offers vast business opportunities. “Thanks to the direct Turkish Airlines [THY] flights from Sao Paulo to Istanbul which started last year, transportation to markets in Turkey’s region has become easier for Brazilian businessmen than in the past. I also believe that the construction sector will play an important role in boosting economic and commercial cooperation between our countries,” Erdoğan said.

Following his address, Erdoğan was presented with a medal by the Sao Paulo Industry Federation for his contributions to industry.

Çağlayan: Turkey, Brazil not competitors but partners

Foreign Trade Minister Zafer Çağlayan , who accompanied Erdoğan to Brazil, on Wednesday said that Turkey and Brazil were not competitors but two countries which had numerous sectors that complemented each other.

Speaking in Sao Paulo, Çağlayan said they had the opportunity to discuss the most promising fields of investments between Turkey and Brazil during the visit. Noting that last year’s crisis caused a 20 percent decrease in the two countries’ foreign trade, Çağlayan said: “The diplomatic cooperation between Turkey and Brazil should benefit economic ties as well. Turkish and Brazilian businessmen could cooperate in economic areas in third countries.”

Çağlayan said the foreign trade volume between Turkey and Brazil did not reflect the real potential, adding that free trade agreements were of great importance for an improvement of economic relations.

Brazil’s Minister of Development, Industry & Trade Miguel Joao Jorge Filho said the two countries could improve their relations in many areas, noting their ties had become significantly stronger during the last year. Filho listed potential areas of cooperation including the energy, infrastructure, aviation, automotive and foodstuff sectors.

Turkish firms eye boost in investments in Brazil

Encouraged by the “opening of a new page” in relations with Brazil, Turkish entrepreneurs said they expect to increase the volume of their investments.

Turkey’s Aktas Group, a manufacturer of air suspension systems and bellows, is one of these companies; it aims to raise its investments in Brazil to $15 million. Aktaş Group Chairman Şahap Aktaş told the Anatolia news agency that the group had $5 million of investments in Brazil and it expected to raise this to $15 million over the next three years.

“We established a factory in Brazil two years ago with an investment of $5 million to produce air suspension bellows for busses and cargo trucks,” Aktas told Anatolia.

Also speaking to Anatolia, Çimsa General Manager Huseyin Ozkan said the company earned $6 million from its exports to Brazil in 2009 and aimed to raise this figure to $8 million this year.

“We want to grow more by opening new factories in the Balkans, the Middle East and North Africa,” he said.

A leading Turkish furniture firm, Çilek Mobilya, is another Turkish company investing in Brazil. It recently signed an agreement with Brazilian furniture chain Etna. “Etna has almost 70 shops in Brazil and our products will now be sold in these shops,” Çilek Mobilya official Okan Çekmegeli said. Kerem Vaizoğlu from Turkey’s Ekinciler Iron and Steel Company said the company started exporting to Brazil in 2009, becoming the first company to export construction iron to Brazil. Vaizoğlu said the company earned $40 million from its exports to Brazil in 2009 and wanted to raise that figure to $60 million this year.

Turkey’s Akkim chemical company is also investing in Brazil. Sadullah Altuntaş, the sales director of the company, said Akkim wanted to establish an office in Brazil and aimed to have annual turnover of $1 million.




28 May 2010, Friday


TODAY’S ZAMAN İSTANBUL


Is that the reasons America scares.........they don't like others to stand independently from them.... world waking up ......... so Turkey also waking up.

America has had it economically, she is on a downward slide to nowhere.

Does anybody want to buy a house in USA for less than 1000 dollars?

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Postby Lit » Fri May 28, 2010 2:50 pm

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Erdogan to Luis: Lower....lower, just a little bit lower.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri May 28, 2010 3:25 pm

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Get Real! wrote:Brazil and Iran can look after themselves but Turkey overestimates herself. If Turkey continues to assume that she is a superpower and able to play ball alongside Iran & Brazil against the opposition, it may well end up being the geopolitical reshuffling that Cyprus has been waiting for…

So Erdogan, please keep it up! :wink:

How did you come to that conclusion? How is Iran politically superior to Turkey?

:? Is there a level of measure for “political superiority” with which to compare countries?

I’m talking militarily! Unlike Iran & Brazil, Turkey is a conventional power with an almost 100% American equipment inventory so she is foolish to go against the hand that feeds and supplies her.

If she continues playing games and falls from American “grace”, US fighter jets could tare her to pieces and there’s NOTHING her American-export defenses can do to protect themselves. American export equipment can be manipulated remotely by the US to not work against her as we witnessed in Pakistan recently!

Countries that have put all their eggs in the American basket have no choice but to be loyal to the US!
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Postby Lit » Fri May 28, 2010 3:46 pm

Lit wrote:Time to: caption ... this ... PHOTO !!!

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Ahmadinejad: Go ahead ... rub me like a magic lamp.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri May 28, 2010 3:57 pm

Lit wrote:Ahmadinejad: Go ahead ... rub me like a magic lamp.

Image You're ruining an otherwise good thread topic...
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Postby Lit » Fri May 28, 2010 4:01 pm

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Lit wrote:Ahmadinejad: Go ahead ... rub me like a magic lamp.

Image You're ruining an otherwise good thread topic...


Got it. I was going to post one more but i guess i'll stop.


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Postby Lit » Sat May 29, 2010 2:29 am

Brazil, Turkey sharpen tone with US over Iran

By Mauricio Rabuffetti (AFP) – 8 hours ago

RIO DE JANEIRO — Brazil and Turkey lashed out at the United States Friday in a deepening confrontation over Iran, saying it and other nuclear powers lacked credibility in demanding Tehran hobble its atomic program.

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... nhqkgerjfw
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Postby Lit » Sat May 29, 2010 2:34 am

Lit wrote:Brazil, Turkey sharpen tone with US over Iran

By Mauricio Rabuffetti (AFP) – 8 hours ago

RIO DE JANEIRO — Brazil and Turkey lashed out at the United States Friday in a deepening confrontation over Iran, saying it and other nuclear powers lacked credibility in demanding Tehran hobble its atomic program.

full story:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... nhqkgerjfw


Notice how Erdogan never mentions Turkey's own nuclear weapons stockpile:

Aljazeera video dated May 28, 2010:

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