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Property issue on the agenda

Postby halil » Fri May 28, 2010 8:30 am

Property issue on the agenda

Politis says that the UN believe that the forthcoming solution must make provisions for the resettlement of Turkish Cypriots living in Greek Cypriot properties in Morphou and have started examining various options.



They consider the return of the town to G/C administration a given and are continuously stressing to the T/C side that their refusal to do so will be tantamount to leading the talks to failure. One possibility being examined is for new housing to be built for the T/C on government land in Morphou.



The question arises, says the paper, because of Eroglu’s public pre-electoral statements refusing to return an inch of the town and in view of the fact that the two sides will start to discuss the property issue in earnest on Monday.



It says that clearly the property issue and that of territory are interconnected and the area where the G/C side will want to show gains. The paper quotes diplomatic sources as saying that clearly the T/Cs have received gains in the issue of governance and political equality. For the negotiations to proceed these must be balanced with territorial and property concessions, matters that greatly concern the G/Cs.



The argument goes that the more territory ultimately falls under G/C administration, the easier the property issue will be resolved. In this respect the possibility of the Karpass area being declared a ‘federal park’, an area where development will be allowed from both communities, is gaining ground.


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Postby humanist » Fri May 28, 2010 9:25 am

I think people in living in GC houses in Morphou should stay there, however, the land surrounding the home should be given back to the original owner to do as they please given that its theirs. The house that is left to the TC who is the current owner because they live in it under the status quo situation should be compensated to the GC owner for a market rate. It's a bit messy I know but most humane after all this time. The rule only should apply to TC families residing in GC houses. The settlers need to be considered differently.
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Postby Acikgoz » Fri May 28, 2010 10:27 am

Personally demonstrates the primary issue - how much land and where - give maximal area for developers to stick their teeth into and the rest will fall into place. Human rights, full democracy and return to lost properties my foot.
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Postby YFred » Fri May 28, 2010 10:28 am

humanist wrote:I think people in living in GC houses in Morphou should stay there, however, the land surrounding the home should be given back to the original owner to do as they please given that its theirs. The house that is left to the TC who is the current owner because they live in it under the status quo situation should be compensated to the GC owner for a market rate. It's a bit messy I know but most humane after all this time. The rule only should apply to TC families residing in GC houses. The settlers need to be considered differently.

Is this the new idea of Enclaving the TCs? How will they live if they have no land?

San don shillos du Mitchu bu mahiman je droin grommin?
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Postby Acikgoz » Fri May 28, 2010 10:33 am

Re. a previous post on my confusion as to how the UN expect to resolve Cyprus in a matter of months - well I guess I have my answer.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri May 28, 2010 10:56 am

Acikgoz wrote:Re. a previous post on my confusion as to how the UN expect to resolve Cyprus in a matter of months - well I guess I have my answer.


You need to figure out how the TCs are going to pay the GCs $50 Billion Dollars in compensation if the intend is to return very little land back to the GCs. That's is the difference in property value from the TCs land in the south and the GCs land in the north. The best way of course, is to return back as much as possible, so that the values cancel each other out, since the International community is not going to pay the $50 Billion for the north to keep present land size with all the GCs properties in the north, and NO, you cannot force the GCs live in the north state if they don't want to, so not to compensate them, but keep their land i the north instead.
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Postby YFred » Fri May 28, 2010 11:07 am

Kikapu wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Re. a previous post on my confusion as to how the UN expect to resolve Cyprus in a matter of months - well I guess I have my answer.


You need to figure out how the TCs are going to pay the GCs $50 Billion Dollars in compensation if the intend is to return very little land back to the GCs. That's is the difference in property value from the TCs land in the south and the GCs land in the north. The best way of course, is to return back as much as possible, so that the values cancel each other out, since the International community is not going to pay the $50 Billion for the north to keep present land size with all the GCs properties in the north, and NO, you cannot force the GCs live in the north state if they don't want to, so not to compensate them, but keep their land i the north instead.

I hope that figure includes my compensation too.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat May 29, 2010 12:01 am

If we always knew that the land issue was going to be the most important part of the negotiations why did we always leave it last?
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Postby Gasman » Sat May 29, 2010 12:06 am

If we always knew that the land issue was going to be the most important part of the negotiations why did we always leave it last?


I have asked that question several times.

And why cannot the glorious leader let the people know what he is going to insist on, or at least ask for, in advance.

And why have so many GCs left it SO LONG to do anything about their property in the North?
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Postby DTA » Sat May 29, 2010 12:29 am

Kikapu wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:Re. a previous post on my confusion as to how the UN expect to resolve Cyprus in a matter of months - well I guess I have my answer.


You need to figure out how the TCs are going to pay the GCs $50 Billion Dollars in compensation if the intend is to return very little land back to the GCs. That's is the difference in property value from the TCs land in the south and the GCs land in the north. The best way of course, is to return back as much as possible, so that the values cancel each other out, since the International community is not going to pay the $50 Billion for the north to keep present land size with all the GCs properties in the north, and NO, you cannot force the GCs live in the north state if they don't want to, so not to compensate them, but keep their
land i the north instead.


we said we were not going to refer to each other, but since you called me a pervert recently I think that we are not honoring that, it's cool though. I will let that go. Just this once

So where does the 50 billion figure come from considering that the land left by the tcs is worth at least twice what the gc left
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