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Postby denizaksulu » Tue May 25, 2010 11:57 am

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Gasman wrote:It's never been a Greek island either. Greece is another country. You need your passport to visit there.

I bet there are a good few Cypriots now who are heaving great sighs of relief that Cyprus was never 'annexed to Greece'. Otherwise they'd now be subjected to the same swingeing and humiliating AUSTERITY measures that the Greeks are!

Maybe those who believe so strongly that they 'are Greek' should show solidarity with their imagined country of origin by offering to give up as much as the average Greek is going to have to. A sort of 'period of lent'!

What's to stop them flying over there and standing shoulder to shoulder with their admired Greek demonstrators, strikers and rioters? What better way to prove just how 'GREEK' you are?


Cyprus has been a Greek island for 1000s of years. Unless you will now claim that there was nothing Greek until the creation of the modern Greek state in the 19th century.

The only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this has been imposed on us. What you can not do is force us to change the identity of our island.



I'd change that to, Cyprus has had strong Greek influence on its language and religion'. Thats all. You have NEVER been ruled by Athens but Constantiniyye, YES. So I will accept, Byzantine rule( ashort period) and NOT Greek rule. That is a fact you cannot deny. Now get over it.
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Postby YFred » Tue May 25, 2010 12:22 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Gasman wrote:It's never been a Greek island either. Greece is another country. You need your passport to visit there.

I bet there are a good few Cypriots now who are heaving great sighs of relief that Cyprus was never 'annexed to Greece'. Otherwise they'd now be subjected to the same swingeing and humiliating AUSTERITY measures that the Greeks are!

Maybe those who believe so strongly that they 'are Greek' should show solidarity with their imagined country of origin by offering to give up as much as the average Greek is going to have to. A sort of 'period of lent'!

What's to stop them flying over there and standing shoulder to shoulder with their admired Greek demonstrators, strikers and rioters? What better way to prove just how 'GREEK' you are?


Cyprus has been a Greek island for 1000s of years. Unless you will now claim that there was nothing Greek until the creation of the modern Greek state in the 19th century.

The only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this has been imposed on us. What you can not do is force us to change the identity of our island.



I'd change that to, Cyprus has had strong Greek influence on its language and religion'. Thats all. You have NEVER been ruled by Athens but Constantiniyye, YES. So I will accept, Byzantine rule( ashort period) and NOT Greek rule. That is a fact you cannot deny. Now get over it.

Was it not the East Roman Empire?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue May 25, 2010 12:29 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Gasman wrote:It's never been a Greek island either. Greece is another country. You need your passport to visit there.

I bet there are a good few Cypriots now who are heaving great sighs of relief that Cyprus was never 'annexed to Greece'. Otherwise they'd now be subjected to the same swingeing and humiliating AUSTERITY measures that the Greeks are!

Maybe those who believe so strongly that they 'are Greek' should show solidarity with their imagined country of origin by offering to give up as much as the average Greek is going to have to. A sort of 'period of lent'!

What's to stop them flying over there and standing shoulder to shoulder with their admired Greek demonstrators, strikers and rioters? What better way to prove just how 'GREEK' you are?


Cyprus has been a Greek island for 1000s of years. Unless you will now claim that there was nothing Greek until the creation of the modern Greek state in the 19th century.

The only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this has been imposed on us. What you can not do is force us to change the identity of our island.



I'd change that to, Cyprus has had strong Greek influence on its language and religion'. Thats all. You have NEVER been ruled by Athens but Constantiniyye, YES. So I will accept, Byzantine rule( ashort period) and NOT Greek rule. That is a fact you cannot deny. Now get over it.

Was it not the East Roman Empire?



To begin with yes. Thats why they are clled Rum.
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 25, 2010 12:41 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Gasman wrote:It's never been a Greek island either. Greece is another country. You need your passport to visit there.

I bet there are a good few Cypriots now who are heaving great sighs of relief that Cyprus was never 'annexed to Greece'. Otherwise they'd now be subjected to the same swingeing and humiliating AUSTERITY measures that the Greeks are!

Maybe those who believe so strongly that they 'are Greek' should show solidarity with their imagined country of origin by offering to give up as much as the average Greek is going to have to. A sort of 'period of lent'!

What's to stop them flying over there and standing shoulder to shoulder with their admired Greek demonstrators, strikers and rioters? What better way to prove just how 'GREEK' you are?


Cyprus has been a Greek island for 1000s of years. Unless you will now claim that there was nothing Greek until the creation of the modern Greek state in the 19th century.

The only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this has been imposed on us. What you can not do is force us to change the identity of our island.



I'd change that to, Cyprus has had strong Greek influence on its language and religion'. Thats all. You have NEVER been ruled by Athens but Constantiniyye, YES. So I will accept, Byzantine rule( ashort period) and NOT Greek rule. That is a fact you cannot deny. Now get over it.


Once again you expose your Imperialist mentality. You think that what gives a place its identity is who rules over it.

We didn't need to be "ruled by Athens" to be Greek. We didn't need to be forced to be Greek, like many of you were forced to be Turkish.

We were and continue to be Greek by our own free will because this is what our true identity is. Athens was never our ruler. We are all equal Greeks. Our relationship with Athens or any other Greek city was never one of ruler and ruled, but one of equal brothers.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue May 25, 2010 12:48 pm

Piratis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Gasman wrote:It's never been a Greek island either. Greece is another country. You need your passport to visit there.

I bet there are a good few Cypriots now who are heaving great sighs of relief that Cyprus was never 'annexed to Greece'. Otherwise they'd now be subjected to the same swingeing and humiliating AUSTERITY measures that the Greeks are!

Maybe those who believe so strongly that they 'are Greek' should show solidarity with their imagined country of origin by offering to give up as much as the average Greek is going to have to. A sort of 'period of lent'!

What's to stop them flying over there and standing shoulder to shoulder with their admired Greek demonstrators, strikers and rioters? What better way to prove just how 'GREEK' you are?


Cyprus has been a Greek island for 1000s of years. Unless you will now claim that there was nothing Greek until the creation of the modern Greek state in the 19th century.

The only reason that Cyprus is a separate country is because this has been imposed on us. What you can not do is force us to change the identity of our island.



I'd change that to, Cyprus has had strong Greek influence on its language and religion'. Thats all. You have NEVER been ruled by Athens but Constantiniyye, YES. So I will accept, Byzantine rule( ashort period) and NOT Greek rule. That is a fact you cannot deny. Now get over it.


Once again you expose your Imperialist mentality. You think that what gives a place its identity is who rules over it.

We didn't need to be "ruled by Athens" to be Greek. We didn't need to be forced to be Greek, like many of you were forced to be Turkish.

We were and continue to be Greek by our own free will because this is what our true identity is. Athens was never our ruler. We are all equal Greeks. Our relationship with Athens or any other Greek city was never one of ruler and ruled, but one of equal brothers.



You were flippin Cypriots who spoke Greek end of story. Then you had to find a name foryourselves. :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Tue May 25, 2010 2:42 pm

We were and continue to be Greek by our own free will because this is what our true identity is.


What a shame that your beloved 'Greeks' don't seem to share your views. You only have to visit 'Greek' forums to discover that. But then I guess that's why you stick to this 'Cypriot' one.

Some of what they say about GCs is not fit to put on the forum (even this forum!)
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Postby Nikitas » Tue May 25, 2010 3:36 pm

I am half Greek and half Cypriot, and I choose to call myself Cypriot because that is being Greek plus. It took me many years to realise what Gerald Durrell meant when he had written "Cyprus is the most Greek of all the Greek islands". And for the same reasons I have questioned the idea of Enosis. If there is any Hellenic ideal behind Enosis then it is Greece that should be asking to be united to Cyprus and not the other way round.

Now I will wait for the mainland Greeks who visit the forum to have a go.
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Postby Piratis » Tue May 25, 2010 3:37 pm

Gasman wrote:
We were and continue to be Greek by our own free will because this is what our true identity is.


What a shame that your beloved 'Greeks' don't seem to share your views. You only have to visit 'Greek' forums to discover that. But then I guess that's why you stick to this 'Cypriot' one.

Some of what they say about GCs is not fit to put on the forum (even this forum!)


Those people are only a small minority. Some Cypriots are like that also.

Some Greek Cypriots think that by pushing the rest of Greeks away they will befriend the TCs and this way will help the solution of the Cyprus problem.

Unfortunately they are very wrong. What most TCs care about are the privileges, the power and the land that they can get on our expense by collaborating with foreign Imperialists. Beyond that if instead of an ethnic minority they would instead be a religious or linguistic minority, it really would make no difference to them and their demands.

So such kind of thinking by some GCs not only it does not make any difference in convincing the TCs to accept democracy and human rights for all, but the only effect that it has is to push away the rest of Greeks and help isolate Cyprus, which is exactly what the Turks are aiming for. The more isolated Cyprus is, the weaker Cyprus is, and the easier it is for the Turks to impose their will and their control over our island.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue May 25, 2010 3:39 pm

By the way, I observe the same difference between TCs and mainland Turks. To my perception, the TCs, are more Turkish than the mainlanders who vacillate between copycatting European ways and styles and the ultra conservatives who have gone the islamic fundamentalist ways. TCs are the real Turks who have preserved the old ways, no wonder the Turks are trying to erase them as a culture.
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Postby EPSILON » Tue May 25, 2010 3:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:Cyprus is a Greek island and if it was up to the Cypriot people Cyprus would have been part of the Greek state a long time ago. The only reason that it is not is because this has been denied to us by the foreign oppressors who want Cyprus isolated and as weak as possible so they can continue to maintain troops and control over our island for their own geo-strategic reasons.

In fact if it was up to the local Cypriot population Cyprus would be part of the first Greek Republic, and there wouldn't be any need for any subsequent union.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.



You are a hucking traitor to the Independence of Cyprus. If Hellas means so much to you why dont you just get a one way ticket to Ellas.


And lieve you alone in Cyprus completing your plans?
you, as nation, was very lucky because the Greek Cypriots targets were handled by a stupid Junta in Greece.If same was attended by a democratic elected government, today your famous foreign minister would be outside the UN building baking for a resolution allowing any Turkish nationality person to even pass 12 NM outside Cyprus.
pls try to investigate the real military power comparizon between Greece and Turkey during the invasion and then you will realize what i mean.
You must thank Allah because a stupid guy was in charge in Athens (Ioannides) and then the most stupid Karamanlis (stupid= CIA Controlled)
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