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[denizaksulu]

And the efforts of the Turks to de-Hellenize our island continue. Cyprus is a Greek island and that is how it was already when your ancestors came here. If you think your ancestors made the wrong choice and you do not want to live on a Greek island then you can always return to your ancestral lands.

If on the other hand you want to kill and ethnically cleanse us because we do not allow you to change the identity of our island then expect that we will continue to fight back against your aggression and expansionism.

Embirazi reh goumbare.


When the Ottomans came, there was no Greek island, only a Venetian one.

And it stayed an Ottoman island for the next 300 years or so! Had it not been for the Ottomans the Venetians (being good catholics) were hell bent on cleaing off anything that was Greek Orthodox on the island!

You are again confusing what Cyprus is with the foreign ruler that occupies it.

The Venetians ruled over several Greek territories and none of those territories had any problem in being liberated and being part of the Greek state. Therefore the long term problem was caused by the Ottomans/Turks and not by the Venetians. The Latin minority today lives peacefully among us and shows respect to the Cypriot people and the identity of our island.

I'd daresay a lot of Latin blood flows throught the veins of many a Cypriot. But ofcourse you only talk of those that retained their faith. Shame really. We are all the same to a very large extent.

What you say now is yet another point in favor of my argument. The Venetian rule didn't cause any long term problems to Cyprus. The Latin population either assimilated or choose to live peacefully with the rest of Cypriots without trying to impose anything in an undemocratic way.

If the TC minority was doing the same then we wouldn't have any problems today. Unfortunately your minority was manipulated and turned against the majority of the population because this division and conflict served the interests of those imperialists who wanted to maintain troops and control over Cyprus against the will of the Cypriot people.

Yet you still call it a Greek island after all the assimilation. We are still ALL Cypriots and proud of it. Some of us speak a sort of Greek, some a variety of Turkish, some Armenian and some Maroniti.

I shall say this only once ; We are all Cypriots. You better get used to it. Especially if you really desire a peace settlement agreeable to all parties. Because of the partitionistas like you and others in the north, we have a divided island.

No Grandad, we have a divided island because of you lot.

You made this trouble, you continue to fuel it and you want whats not yours. Thats the real problem.

Piratis is showing you all the error of your ways, but even if you did agree with him you wouldn't say because you would have to give up what you (not personally you understand) stole.

Way to go Piratis man. Just keep reminding these low lifes.

You too have proved my point. With a mentality like you and Piratis, who would want you two as neighbours. If I would many more TCs wouldnt. If you never wanted that sweet dream of ENOSIS, we would never have this CYProb. Gadalavis?

Deniz, you should have finished with "Galadaves re pushdopezenegui du ameriga"

I will leave the niceties of the CF to you Y-Fred. Thats your department.

Well I am mighty pleased that at least one member of this forum recognises my potential.
Efgaristo re gumbare je horgadimu.

[BirKibrisli]

This is dedicated to the Forum Bash partitionist and all the fanatical Greek nationalists....Enjoy....

[BirKibrisli]

And if the above is nOT enough to make you retract your idiotic statements that Cyprus (my country,and the country of all TCs,and all Armenian Cypriots,and all Maronite Cypriots etc) is a Greek Island,here is some more......enjoy.....

[Piratis]

And the efforts of the Turks to de-Hellenize our island continue. Cyprus is a Greek island and that is how it was already when your ancestors came here. If you think your ancestors made the wrong choice and you do not want to live on a Greek island then you can always return to your ancestral lands.

If on the other hand you want to kill and ethnically cleanse us because we do not allow you to change the identity of our island then expect that we will continue to fight back against your aggression and expansionism.

When the Ottomans came, there was no Greek island, only a Venetian one.

And it stayed an Ottoman island for the next 300 years or so! Had it not been for the Ottomans the Venetians (being good catholics) were hell bent on cleaing off anything that was Greek Orthodox on the island!

You are again confusing what Cyprus is with the foreign ruler that occupies it.

The Venetians ruled over several Greek territories and none of those territories had any problem in being liberated and being part of the Greek state. Therefore the long term problem was caused by the Ottomans/Turks and not by the Venetians. The Latin minority today lives peacefully among us and shows respect to the Cypriot people and the identity of our island.

I'd daresay a lot of Latin blood flows throught the veins of many a Cypriot. But ofcourse you only talk of those that retained their faith. Shame really. We are all the same to a very large extent.

What you say now is yet another point in favor of my argument. The Venetian rule didn't cause any long term problems to Cyprus. The Latin population either assimilated or choose to live peacefully with the rest of Cypriots without trying to impose anything in an undemocratic way.

If the TC minority was doing the same then we wouldn't have any problems today. Unfortunately your minority was manipulated and turned against the majority of the population because this division and conflict served the interests of those imperialists who wanted to maintain troops and control over Cyprus against the will of the Cypriot people.

Yet you still call it a Greek island after all the assimilation. We are still ALL Cypriots and proud of it. Some of us speak a sort of Greek, some a variety of Turkish, some Armenian and some Maroniti.

I shall say this only once ; We are all Cypriots. You better get used to it. Especially if you really desire a peace settlement agreeable to all parties. Because of the partitionistas like you and others in the north, we have a divided island.

And in Turkey there was no assimilation? It's population doesn't even look Asian, as the original Turks were. This doesn't stop them from calling their country Turkey, does it?

Assimilation and mixing of population happens everywhere. There is nothing unique in Cyprus about this.

The important thing is for Cypriots to be free to democratically decide what they want for their own island. If independence (a true one, not the fake they gave us in 1960) and the creation of a "Cypriot ethnicity" is what is desired (not merely accepted after being blackmailed) by the majority of the Cypriot people then I will fully respect the democratic decision of the Cypriot people.

Can you do the same? Or you want to impose your own will even if the vast majority of Cypriots would disagree with you?

If what you want is for the good of all Cypriots then you have nothing to worry about as most Cypriots will obviously choose what is good for their own interests. But when what is on offer is some pseudo independence, with foreign troops, foreign bases, segregation and racist discrimination on our expense then I don't think many Cypriots would agree that this is what they want for their island.

Dont be silly Piratis. I have often stated to Runaway that Turkey has assimilated many other nationalities from all over the Balkans and the middle east to form the 'pure'Turkish race. Next time take note of what I write and dont be so puerile.

So would you suggest to rename Turkey to something else and to stop calling that territory Turkish?

[Piratis]

And the efforts of the Turks to de-Hellenize our island continue. Cyprus is a Greek island and that is how it was already when your ancestors came here. If you think your ancestors made the wrong choice and you do not want to live on a Greek island then you can always return to your ancestral lands.

If on the other hand you want to kill and ethnically cleanse us because we do not allow you to change the identity of our island then expect that we will continue to fight back against your aggression and expansionism.

When the Ottomans came, there was no Greek island, only a Venetian one.

And it stayed an Ottoman island for the next 300 years or so! Had it not been for the Ottomans the Venetians (being good catholics) were hell bent on cleaing off anything that was Greek Orthodox on the island!

You are again confusing what Cyprus is with the foreign ruler that occupies it.

The Venetians ruled over several Greek territories and none of those territories had any problem in being liberated and being part of the Greek state. Therefore the long term problem was caused by the Ottomans/Turks and not by the Venetians. The Latin minority today lives peacefully among us and shows respect to the Cypriot people and the identity of our island.

I'd daresay a lot of Latin blood flows throught the veins of many a Cypriot. But ofcourse you only talk of those that retained their faith. Shame really. We are all the same to a very large extent.

What you say now is yet another point in favor of my argument. The Venetian rule didn't cause any long term problems to Cyprus. The Latin population either assimilated or choose to live peacefully with the rest of Cypriots without trying to impose anything in an undemocratic way.

If the TC minority was doing the same then we wouldn't have any problems today. Unfortunately your minority was manipulated and turned against the majority of the population because this division and conflict served the interests of those imperialists who wanted to maintain troops and control over Cyprus against the will of the Cypriot people.

Yet you still call it a Greek island after all the assimilation. We are still ALL Cypriots and proud of it. Some of us speak a sort of Greek, some a variety of Turkish, some Armenian and some Maroniti.

I shall say this only once ; We are all Cypriots. You better get used to it. Especially if you really desire a peace settlement agreeable to all parties. Because of the partitionistas like you and others in the north, we have a divided island.

And in Turkey there was no assimilation? It's population doesn't even look Asian, as the original Turks were. This doesn't stop them from calling their country Turkey, does it?

Assimilation and mixing of population happens everywhere. There is nothing unique in Cyprus about this.

The important thing is for Cypriots to be free to democratically decide what they want for their own island. If independence (a true one, not the fake they gave us in 1960) and the creation of a "Cypriot ethnicity" is what is desired (not merely accepted after being blackmailed) by the majority of the Cypriot people then I will fully respect the democratic decision of the Cypriot people.

Can you do the same? Or you want to impose your own will even if the vast majority of Cypriots would disagree with you?

If what you want is for the good of all Cypriots then you have nothing to worry about as most Cypriots will obviously choose what is good for their own interests. But when what is on offer is some pseudo independence, with foreign troops, foreign bases, segregation and racist discrimination on our expense then I don't think many Cypriots would agree that this is what they want for their island.

Piratis, most of Cypriots believe in what I believe. If people like you and one or two others got their act together, that figure would rise to 80% +/_ 10. Get it?

I don't know what exactly you believe in, so I can not comment on whether or not such a large percentage of Cypriots believe in the same thing.

What I believe is that Cypriots should be left free do choose what they truly want for their own island.

Note that there is a huge difference between what the majority of Cypriots wants and what maybe some of them are willing to accept as a result of brute force and blackmail.

[Piratis]

And if the above is nOT enough to make you retract your idiotic statements that Cyprus (my country,and the country of all TCs,and all Armenian Cypriots,and all Maronite Cypriots etc) is a Greek Island,here is some more......enjoy.....

Your hypocrisy is unbelievable. The country which you support in your post is called Turkey and it is claimed to be Turkish even thought it is also the country of Greeks, Armenians, Kurds and many other ethnic groups. How come this never bothered you????

In fact in Turkey the Turks are proportionally less than Greeks are in Cyprus. And they would be even less if they had not committed several genocides against the other ethnic groups. Not to mention that all other ethnic groups have a far longer history on that territory than the Turks. And still it never bothered you that this country is claimed to be Turkish, but it bothers you that Cyprus is Greek!

P.S, only a Turk would bother playing the videos you post

[Piratis]

And by the way, before you talk about Armenians, Maronites, Latins and the other communities of Cyprus I should remind you a few things:

1) Most of the Armenians came to Cyprus to escape from the genocide that was committed against them by the Turks.
2) During Ottoman rule the Maronites and the Latins suffered even more than we did.
3) During the inter-communal conflict you forced the Armenians out of their sector in Nicosia
4) With your invasion you forced out of the occupied ares all other Cypriot communities.
5) When in 1960 the other communities where forced to choose another community to belong to, either GC or TC (because everything had to be divided in 2 to serve your interests) all other communities choose to unite with the GCs.

So stop pretending that you care about any other Cypriots. You don't. All you care about is how to gain privileges, land and powers on the expense of every other Cypriot.

[denizaksulu]

And the efforts of the Turks to de-Hellenize our island continue. Cyprus is a Greek island and that is how it was already when your ancestors came here. If you think your ancestors made the wrong choice and you do not want to live on a Greek island then you can always return to your ancestral lands.

If on the other hand you want to kill and ethnically cleanse us because we do not allow you to change the identity of our island then expect that we will continue to fight back against your aggression and expansionism.

When the Ottomans came, there was no Greek island, only a Venetian one.

And it stayed an Ottoman island for the next 300 years or so! Had it not been for the Ottomans the Venetians (being good catholics) were hell bent on cleaing off anything that was Greek Orthodox on the island!

You are again confusing what Cyprus is with the foreign ruler that occupies it.

The Venetians ruled over several Greek territories and none of those territories had any problem in being liberated and being part of the Greek state. Therefore the long term problem was caused by the Ottomans/Turks and not by the Venetians. The Latin minority today lives peacefully among us and shows respect to the Cypriot people and the identity of our island.

I'd daresay a lot of Latin blood flows throught the veins of many a Cypriot. But ofcourse you only talk of those that retained their faith. Shame really. We are all the same to a very large extent.

What you say now is yet another point in favor of my argument. The Venetian rule didn't cause any long term problems to Cyprus. The Latin population either assimilated or choose to live peacefully with the rest of Cypriots without trying to impose anything in an undemocratic way.

If the TC minority was doing the same then we wouldn't have any problems today. Unfortunately your minority was manipulated and turned against the majority of the population because this division and conflict served the interests of those imperialists who wanted to maintain troops and control over Cyprus against the will of the Cypriot people.

Yet you still call it a Greek island after all the assimilation. We are still ALL Cypriots and proud of it. Some of us speak a sort of Greek, some a variety of Turkish, some Armenian and some Maroniti.

I shall say this only once ; We are all Cypriots. You better get used to it. Especially if you really desire a peace settlement agreeable to all parties. Because of the partitionistas like you and others in the north, we have a divided island.

And in Turkey there was no assimilation? It's population doesn't even look Asian, as the original Turks were. This doesn't stop them from calling their country Turkey, does it?

Assimilation and mixing of population happens everywhere. There is nothing unique in Cyprus about this.

The important thing is for Cypriots to be free to democratically decide what they want for their own island. If independence (a true one, not the fake they gave us in 1960) and the creation of a "Cypriot ethnicity" is what is desired (not merely accepted after being blackmailed) by the majority of the Cypriot people then I will fully respect the democratic decision of the Cypriot people.

Can you do the same? Or you want to impose your own will even if the vast majority of Cypriots would disagree with you?

If what you want is for the good of all Cypriots then you have nothing to worry about as most Cypriots will obviously choose what is good for their own interests. But when what is on offer is some pseudo independence, with foreign troops, foreign bases, segregation and racist discrimination on our expense then I don't think many Cypriots would agree that this is what they want for their island.

Dont be silly Piratis. I have often stated to Runaway that Turkey has assimilated many other nationalities from all over the Balkans and the middle east to form the 'pure'Turkish race. Next time take note of what I write and dont be so puerile.

So would you suggest to rename Turkey to something else and to stop calling that territory Turkish?

The word Turkey or to be more precise Turqiou (my French is none existent) was coined by the French. Anyway, they decided to keep the name its up to them what they call it.

Cant you for once concentrate on Cyprus? You are full of red herrings!!

I have nothing to do with Turkey nor should Cyprus have too, but for people like you.

[BirKibrisli]

Our Bash partitionist and chief fanatical GC propagandist ought to know,Deniz,that we don't give a damn what Turkey is called....It could be called Duckey for all I care...

WE have never claimed that Turkey is only Turkish...Turkey belongs to everyone who lives there and calls it home...Like Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots and not just those of Greek extraction...The moment one claims Cyprus is a Greek island it makes everyone else the "other",no matter how many centuries they have lived in and loved Cyprus...And it makes it legitimate to demand that part of Cyprus should be something else....

I often wondered,what do the Armenian Cypriots,Maronite Cypriots ,and Latin Cypriots feel when they hear claims that Cyprus is a Greek island???Perhaps some of them here would enlighten us a little bit...Do they see red like the TCs...??? Or are they resigned to their fate,and accept it as part of natural fanatical GC arrogance and stupidity....


Here is another version of the Turkish nationalist song especially for those who think Cyprus is a Greek island...

[Piratis]

Our Bash partitionist and chief fanatical GC propagandist ought to know,Deniz,that we don't give a damn what Turkey is called....It could be called Duckey for all I care...

WE have never claimed that Turkey is only Turkish...Turkey belongs to everyone who lives there and calls it home...Like Cyprus belongs to all Cypriots and not just those of Greek extraction...The moment one claims Cyprus is a Greek island it makes everyone else the "other",no matter how many centuries they have lived in and loved Cyprus...And it makes it legitimate to demand that part of Cyprus should be something else....

I often wondered,what do the Armenian Cypriots,Maronite Cypriots ,and Latin Cypriots feel when they hear claims that Cyprus is a Greek island???Perhaps some of them here would enlighten us a little bit...Do they see red like the TCs...??? Or are they resigned to their fate,and accept it as part of natural fanatical GC arrogance and stupidity....


Here is another version of the Turkish nationalist song especially for those who think Cyprus is a Greek island...

Asia Minor was renamed to Turkey and then you tell me that there is no claim that this country is Turkish? They even have laws against those who insult "Turkishness", and they don't allow the Kurds, the bigger minority, to even speak their own language in the parliament. And then you tell me than you never claimed that Turkey is Turkish ... ridiculous!

How about if we rename Cyprus to "Greekland" , but we will not say that "Cyprus is Greek" explicitly if that is the only thing that bothers you. Also make Greek the only official language of Cyprus, like Turkish is the only official language in Turkey. Would that be fine for you?

The Greek island of Cyprus belongs to everyone who calls it home as well. Cyprus belongs to your ethnic minority exactly as much as Turkey belongs to the Greek minority there.

So cut the lame excuses and the double standards because they can not pass from here.