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[Acikgoz]

FYROM President: Greece Protracts Name Dispute Like Cyprus Question

The unresolved dispute about the name of FYROM (the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) is the fault of Greece, according to Macedonia’s President George Ivanov.

Ivanov declared Monday that Greece is obviously not in a hurry to resolve the notorious name conflict between the two states, applying tactics similar to what it does regarding the Cyprus conflict.

“We are the ones that need the resolving of the dispute. Greece does not need that, and does not feel like doing something to resolve it soon,” Ivanov said on the Macedonian channel of Radio Free Europe.

“Greece probably adopted the same strategy as in Cyprus – postponing the problem and creating the impression that this situation has to continue until there are conditions allowing a solution that serves its interests,” the President of FYROM declared.

In his words, Macedonia is trying everything possible to reach a mutually acceptable settlement under the aegis of UN envoy, Matthew Nemitz.

“However, we cannot accept as mutually acceptable the options put forth by Greece,” Ivanov said adding there were politicians in Greece using Cold War rhetoric in order to instill fear that Macedonia threatened the territorial integrity and identity of the people in Greece,”

“It is superficial to raise such questions and to benefit from that in the 21st century,” Macedonian President has concluded.

Greece and Macedonia have been tangled in a dispute about the name of the latter as an administrative region in Northern Greece is also called Macedonia allowing the country to fear that its territorial integrity might be compromised. Greece has already blocked Macedonia’s accession to NATO and the EU over the name dispute.

[Gasman]

Greece probably adopted the same strategy as in Cyprus – postponing the problem and creating the impression that this situation has to continue until there are conditions allowing a solution that serves its interests

Since when was Greece charged with the responsibility of 'solving the Cyprus Problem'?

[YFred]

Greece probably adopted the same strategy as in Cyprus – postponing the problem and creating the impression that this situation has to continue until there are conditions allowing a solution that serves its interests

Since when was Greece charged with the responsibility of 'solving the Cyprus Problem'?

You have just been caught napping young lady. Wake up and pay attention.

[B25]

Greece probably adopted the same strategy as in Cyprus – postponing the problem and creating the impression that this situation has to continue until there are conditions allowing a solution that serves its interests

Since when was Greece charged with the responsibility of 'solving the Cyprus Problem'?

Gassy, I wouldn't worry about this propoganda spreading sh*t.

They are clutching straws and trying and desperate attempt to compare Greece with Turkey.

Re, malaka Acikgoz, take our report and roll it up in a cylindrical shape as Gayfred would say.

Greece is not connected to the Cyprob, I gave you the 3 simple steps to B25's solution. Here they are again;

1. Turkish troops out of Cyprus
2. All settlers out Of Cyprus
3. Fullr eturn of refugee properties both sides.

Oh I guess I should add another;

4. Turkey piss off and leave us in peace.

then we can talk business, anything else you are pissing in the wind, gale force 10.

[YFred]

Greece probably adopted the same strategy as in Cyprus – postponing the problem and creating the impression that this situation has to continue until there are conditions allowing a solution that serves its interests

Since when was Greece charged with the responsibility of 'solving the Cyprus Problem'?

Gassy, I wouldn't worry about this propoganda spreading sh*t.

They are clutching straws and trying and desperate attempt to compare Greece with Turkey.

Re, malaka Acikgoz, take our report and roll it up in a cylindrical shape as Gayfred would say.

Greece is not connected to the Cyprob, I gave you the 3 simple steps to B25's solution. Here they are again;

1. Turkish troops out of Cyprus
2. All settlers out Of Cyprus
3. Fullr eturn of refugee properties both sides.

Oh I guess I should add another;

4. Turkey piss off and leave us in peace.

then we can talk business, anything else you are pissing in the wind, gale force 10.

You shall have all three, unfortunately they will be deliverd in a cylindrical shape by you know who.

Now you've gone and done it. You made my friend Chicocrap froth in the mouth again. So get lost.

[Acikgoz]

Without Greece, the Greek Cypriot politicians would never have achieved the positioning it has in the EU or elsewhere. Always we see the govt of Cyprus and the govt of Greece communicating and making sure they are on the same page vis-a-vis Cyprus etc.

C'mon, the description is of the "cause pain given priviledged position until perhaps a winds turn in your favour for a political settlement". Point is that the actions are NOTED.

Seems like each time there is something you don't like B25 you revert to type - a rude idiotic fool.

[B25]

Without Greece, the Greek Cypriot politicians would never have achieved the positioning it has in the EU or elsewhere. Always we see the govt of Cyprus and the govt of Greece communicating and making sure they are on the same page vis-a-vis Cyprus etc.

C'mon, the description is of the "cause pain given priviledged position until perhaps a winds turn in your favour for a political settlement". Point is that the actions are NOTED.

Seems like each time there is something you don't like B25 you revert to type - a rude idiotic fool.

Listen idiot, Greece - EU-Cyprus has naff all to do with Turkey - Cyprus -problem. Geddit??

What Greece may have or may have not done for Cyprus EU wise has little consequence on the Cyprob.

Turkey is the illegal occupying power, violation of the 4th Geneva convention on colonisation, guilt of war crimes here in Cyprus and not to mention anything else. Tell me wise guy where greece fits in here otherwise just STFU. Another Turk partitionist looking for reasons to justify your illegalities and attrocities on cyprus.

Is that clear enough for you now??? God you even make Gay fred look intelligent.

Hade asirktir malaka

[Nikitas]

There is no dispute at all over the status of FYROM as an independent nation. The name is a different matter, since allowing one of the three states (Greece, Byulgaria, FYROM) sharing the geographic area of Macedonia to monopolise the name Macedonia leads to all kinds of possible future misunderstandings.

Cyprus is totally different, everyone involved seems to reject the status of at least some of the parties involved.

[YFred]

There is no dispute at all over the status of FYROM as an independent nation. The name is a different matter, since allowing one of the three states (Greece, Byulgaria, FYROM) sharing the geographic area of Macedonia to monopolise the name Macedonia leads to all kinds of possible future misunderstandings.

Cyprus is totally different, everyone involved seems to reject the status of at least some of the parties involved.

We all have to start from somewhere. TRNC is no different. Pre 1947, there was no state of Israel either, but there sure is one now.

[Acikgoz]

Exactly Y, states and nations evlove.

Niki no one is questioning the independence, no one is debating the name's appropriateness or not. What is being brought up is the evidence that Greece is using its position in the EU for leverage. Greece promoted Cyprus into the EU - sans la Grec aucune Chypre - the tactics henceforth are similar, national politics with EU held ransom. Remember Greece held Germany ransom to bring in Cyprus.