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Macedonia President - Greece like Cyprus plays for time

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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue May 25, 2010 12:29 pm

YFred wrote:
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Malapapa wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Bretagne translates in English as Brittany, not Britain and the inhabitants are Bretons, not Britons.


There must be some misunderstanding here. How does Grande Bretagne translate in English? Great Brittany or Great Britain?

I think Britney Spears should kick up a fuss in the EU as this could lead to all kinds of possible future misunderstandings.


After the Old English period, Britain was used as a historical term only. Geoffrey of Monmouth in his pseudohistorical Historia Regum Britanniae (c. 1136) refers to the island of Great Britain as Britannia major ("Greater Britain"), to distinguish it from Britannia minor ("Lesser Britain"), the continental region which approximates to modern Brittany. The term "Great Britain" was first used officially in 1474, in the instrument drawing up the proposal for a marriage between Cecily the daughter of Edward IV of England, and James the son of James III of Scotland, which described it as "this Nobill Isle, callit Gret Britanee."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Britain


I think we should rename the old English "vaughanwilliams" and call him a "Lesser British Thieving Carpetbagger" from now on so as to avoid all kinds of possible future misunderstandings.


You've already caused a misunderstanding. I'm not from Brittany.
:shock:

And I lost my spears, so?


I have an Auntie who's a tail-gunner in the Japanese Air Force, if that's any help?
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Postby Raymanoff » Tue May 25, 2010 1:25 pm

Who the hell is Macedonia?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Tue May 25, 2010 1:33 pm

Raymanoff wrote:Who the hell is Macedonia?


Isn't it some kind of mixed-vegetable dish?
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Postby Gasman » Tue May 25, 2010 2:33 pm

Isn't it some kind of mixed-vegetable dish?


Yes - Greeks eat it for breakfast when they can't get Ratatouille. Keeps them regular.
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Postby Oracle » Tue May 25, 2010 2:37 pm

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Isn't it some kind of mixed-vegetable dish?


Yes - Greeks eat it for breakfast when they can't get Ratatouille. Keeps them regular.


Still blocking up the plumbing in your flat? :lol:

I do pity your poor neighbours ...
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Postby Gasman » Tue May 25, 2010 2:39 pm

No Oracle. Read again. I do not claim to be GREEK! Although I am probably as 'Greek' as you are. Definitely as 'officially British' and probably more Cypriot!
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Postby Nikitas » Tue May 25, 2010 3:46 pm

"Isn't it some kind of mixed-vegetable dish?"

You are thinking of the fruit salad, macedonia di frutti. The use of the word comes from the verb macellare, to butcher or cut up, a linguistic coincidence which has fooled many people.
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Re: Macedonia President - Greece like Cyprus plays for time

Postby EPSILON » Tue May 25, 2010 3:54 pm

Acikgoz wrote:FYROM President: Greece Protracts Name Dispute Like Cyprus Question

The unresolved dispute about the name of FYROM (the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) is the fault of Greece, according to Macedonia’s President George Ivanov.

Ivanov declared Monday that Greece is obviously not in a hurry to resolve the notorious name conflict between the two states, applying tactics similar to what it does regarding the Cyprus conflict.

“We are the ones that need the resolving of the dispute. Greece does not need that, and does not feel like doing something to resolve it soon,” Ivanov said on the Macedonian channel of Radio Free Europe.

“Greece probably adopted the same strategy as in Cyprus – postponing the problem and creating the impression that this situation has to continue until there are conditions allowing a solution that serves its interests,” the President of FYROM declared.

In his words, Macedonia is trying everything possible to reach a mutually acceptable settlement under the aegis of UN envoy, Matthew Nemitz.

“However, we cannot accept as mutually acceptable the options put forth by Greece,” Ivanov said adding there were politicians in Greece using Cold War rhetoric in order to instill fear that Macedonia threatened the territorial integrity and identity of the people in Greece,”

“It is superficial to raise such questions and to benefit from that in the 21st century,” Macedonian President has concluded.

Greece and Macedonia have been tangled in a dispute about the name of the latter as an administrative region in Northern Greece is also called Macedonia allowing the country to fear that its territorial integrity might be compromised. Greece has already blocked Macedonia’s accession to NATO and the EU over the name dispute.


My friend if you or this president changed the word Greece with Greek government then i do not hv any reason to reject it.
Pls see who is "acting " as foreign minister in Greece and you will understand - the previous one (the famous lady) closed even the dept in the ministry which was dealing with CB!!

But fortunatetly this economic crisis will clean (very soon ) the picture and Greek government will mean then Greece.
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Postby observer » Wed May 26, 2010 8:42 am

… and see how much USA has done to confuse the world

Athens, Georgia
Sparta Tennessee

… and most confusing of all, Greece, New York.

... and there is a Macedonia, Ohio
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Postby Lit » Wed May 26, 2010 9:35 am

observer wrote:… and see how much USA has done to confuse the world

Athens, Georgia
Sparta Tennessee

… and most confusing of all, Greece, New York.

... and there is a Macedonia, Ohio


My goodness...why do you care? What are all these threads about FY Rom have to do with the Cyprus problem. The points you make are really invalid. Why? Because none of these places you mention above are attempting to take the identity and history of Greece. Its really simple to understand. You are in support of them because they have claims on Greece. Come on, lets be honest. When the former Yugoslav republic of Macedonia declared independence ... for currency they designed a new flag with the Sun of Vergina at its center and the White Tower of Thessaloniki, Greek symbols from northern Greece. See:

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To get a better understanding of the issue...read this:

The Name Game

JULY 23, 2009

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... _name_game

The future of EU expansion? It all depends on what the meaning of the word "Macedonia" is.
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