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Do we already have the solution we are looking for

Postby humanist » Sun May 23, 2010 10:38 pm

Turkey uses the term "intervention" to describe its current occupation of Cyprus.

Could we then assume that they ought to be encouraging the GC's & TC's to move back to the 1960 Constitution where everyone is equal and share equal status of Cypriot community.
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Re: Do we already have the solution we are looking for

Postby YFred » Sun May 23, 2010 11:11 pm

humanist wrote:Turkey uses the term "intervention" to describe its current occupation of Cyprus.

Could we then assume that they ought to be encouraging the GC's & TC's to move back to the 1960 Constitution where everyone is equal and share equal status of Cypriot community.

Is that with or without the ammendments?
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Postby humanist » Sun May 23, 2010 11:50 pm

what amendments will you like to see?
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Postby YFred » Sun May 23, 2010 11:51 pm

humanist wrote:what amendments will you like to see?

Any ammendments done without the participation of the TCs will have to go.
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Postby Gasman » Mon May 24, 2010 7:52 am

If a solution is somehow 'reached', Christofias, Erogulu and whoever else features large in the neverending 'talks' will fade into obscurity won't they? Hardly ever to be mentioned on the 'International scene'. It's about the only thing they ever do get a mention for now. And even then it is usually buried way down the list of 'World News'.

Greece enjoyed five mins of fame due to their economical collapse. Even that's slipped off the radar now.

I suspect that, unless it is in connection with Turkey in general (in connection with their EU membership aspirations) Cyprus will crop up now and then for some time to come (or at least while Turkey still have aspirations to join).

But who the hell in the wide world outside Cyprus would even be able to name the President of the RoC? Much less the leader of the 'TRNC' which most are not even aware of (and I don't know anyone outside Cyprus who refers to 'RoC' anyway - everyone just calls it Cyprus or 'North Cyprus' and 'South Cyprus'.
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Postby observer » Mon May 24, 2010 10:10 am

If it didn't work in 1960 when there weren't that many problems to be resolved, why should it work 50 years later when we have all the intervening problems to solve?
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Postby YFred » Mon May 24, 2010 11:02 am

observer wrote:If it didn't work in 1960 when there weren't that many problems to be resolved, why should it work 50 years later when we have all the intervening problems to solve?

It does not matter too much now. We an choose to live together or go our own ways. The situation on the ground is rather diferent and the problems will also be different too.

It will be a win win situation either way.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Mon May 24, 2010 2:02 pm

I would return to the 1960 Constitution yesterday,but you will find that the usual suspects,the Forum Partitionists will not have a bar of it,dear Andrea...They are really hell bent on democracy and human rights, these days... :wink:
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Postby Acikgoz » Mon May 24, 2010 6:35 pm

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon May 24, 2010 7:14 pm

Acikgoz wrote:I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.


I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??
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