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[YFred]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

[Kikapu]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

You are going to have to first give back what does not belong to you in the first place, then you have to reach into your pocket and offer some of yours as well. As I've said, what is it worth for the TCs to finally have their Taksim dream come true and be legal at the same time. Surely there has to be some cost bared by the TCs in getting what they want. What are the TCs willing to give to the GCs to reach their dream, since 100% of Cyprus is not what they want in a True Federation, True Democracy BBF. Come on, lets hear it.!

[YFred]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

You are going to have to first give back what does not belong to you in the first place, then you have to reach into your pocket and offer some of yours as well. As I've said, what is it worth for the TCs to finally have their Taksim dream come true and be legal at the same time. Surely there has to be some cost bared by the TCs in getting what they want. What are the TCs willing to give to the GCs to reach their dream, since 100% of Cyprus is not what they want in a True Federation, True Democracy BBF. Come on, lets hear it.!

Since when have you become a communist? When I decide to distribute my land. I'll let you know.

[Kikapu]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

You are going to have to first give back what does not belong to you in the first place, then you have to reach into your pocket and offer some of yours as well. As I've said, what is it worth for the TCs to finally have their Taksim dream come true and be legal at the same time. Surely there has to be some cost bared by the TCs in getting what they want. What are the TCs willing to give to the GCs to reach their dream, since 100% of Cyprus is not what they want in a True Federation, True Democracy BBF. Come on, lets hear it.!

Since when have you become a communist?

Far from it. It is capitalism all the way. If you want something that badly, you will have to pay for it.! No freebies.

Just like the bumper sticker on the back of an old hippie van would read, "Gas Grass or Ass, nobody rides for free".!

[YFred]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

You are going to have to first give back what does not belong to you in the first place, then you have to reach into your pocket and offer some of yours as well. As I've said, what is it worth for the TCs to finally have their Taksim dream come true and be legal at the same time. Surely there has to be some cost bared by the TCs in getting what they want. What are the TCs willing to give to the GCs to reach their dream, since 100% of Cyprus is not what they want in a True Federation, True Democracy BBF. Come on, lets hear it.!

Since when have you become a communist?

Far from it. It is capitalism all the way. If you want something that badly, you will have to pay for it.! No freebies.

Just like the bumper sticker on the back of an old hippie van would read, "Gas Grass or Ass, nobody rides for free".!

What? are you in the rent boy business now?
Bloody hell, you ain't my friend no more.

[B25]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

You are going to have to first give back what does not belong to you in the first place, then you have to reach into your pocket and offer some of yours as well. As I've said, what is it worth for the TCs to finally have their Taksim dream come true and be legal at the same time. Surely there has to be some cost bared by the TCs in getting what they want. What are the TCs willing to give to the GCs to reach their dream, since 100% of Cyprus is not what they want in a True Federation, True Democracy BBF. Come on, lets hear it.!

Since when have you become a communist?

Far from it. It is capitalism all the way. If you want something that badly, you will have to pay for it.! No freebies.

Just like the bumper sticker on the back of an old hippie van would read, "Gas Grass or Ass, nobody rides for free".!

Excellent saying, almost as good as your other one, "If you can F*** A friend and all that"

Must remember that.

[Kikapu]

I'd venture to say, given a choice between 1960 constitution and taksim, our GC friends would opt for taksim with 29% - 71% land split.

I venture to say, given the choice between 1960 constitution and status quo , our GC friends would opt for status quo with 63%-37% land split over 71%-29% land split with Taksim. Extra 8% land gain over losing 29% permanently is not an attractive offer for them to accept Taksim and lose the legal rights over the north. You are going to have to come up with far better offer than just offering 8% back.

The question that really needs to be asked is, just how much land is it worth for the TCs to give back to the GCs in order to finally achieve their Taksim dream and be legal at the same time.??

Go on Kicks tell him 5% Vs 95%. See what he says.

You are going to have to first give back what does not belong to you in the first place, then you have to reach into your pocket and offer some of yours as well. As I've said, what is it worth for the TCs to finally have their Taksim dream come true and be legal at the same time. Surely there has to be some cost bared by the TCs in getting what they want. What are the TCs willing to give to the GCs to reach their dream, since 100% of Cyprus is not what they want in a True Federation, True Democracy BBF. Come on, lets hear it.!

Since when have you become a communist?

Far from it. It is capitalism all the way. If you want something that badly, you will have to pay for it.! No freebies.

Just like the bumper sticker on the back of an old hippie van would read, "Gas Grass or Ass, nobody rides for free".!

Excellent saying, almost as good as your other one, "If you can F*** A friend and all that"

Must remember that.

That's true capitalism !!

[Malapapa]

"Gas Grass or Ass, nobody rides for free".!

Excellent, Kiks... and all the more poetic if delivered with a broad American enunciation. In return, here's an anecdote from this side of the pond, involving a certain hero of mine, which is equally relevant to the discussion...

Churchill: Madam, would you sleep with me for a million pounds?
Socialite: My goodness, Mr. Churchill… Well, I suppose… we would have to discuss terms, of course…
Churchill: Would you sleep with me for one pound?
Socialite: Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!
Churchill: Madam, we’ve already established that. Now we are haggling about the price.

[Acikgoz]

Nothing implied by the comment, though by the arguments presented much has been assumed - remember what they say assuming, it makes an ASS of U and ME.

Point was - if as a GC you have 2 options hypothetically and only 2 to choose from which one do you choose?
1. Partition 29/71 split 2 independent countries
2. 1960 constitution all aspects - anything changed that's not mutually agreed gets kicked out

No debate necessary, feel uncomfortable commiting to a preference, no probs move on....

[Nikitas]

29-71, well lets us see the logic of that. The 18 per cent of the population deserve 29 per cent of the territory, so the 82 per cent must deserve four and something times 29 per cent, that would make it close to 120 per cent. Since there is not enough land for that kind of share out, someone must provide some extra land.

Who is going to be the patsy in this game?