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[YFred]

I agree with much of what Kikapu says, although I think the risk of further wars is exaggerated with the current situation. RoC is too weak to attack. Turkey has no interest in attacking.

Time Does Not Stand Still, Observer.!

At another time and at another situation and at another condition, an another outcome is all too possible.!!

History is full of changes, all because of time.!

Kikapu,
Are you implying that one day,in the fullness of time as they say,the balance of power might change in such a way that the CNG might concievably be strong enough to pick a war with Turkey???

Can I answer? please can I answer?

Yes to he is and also yes to he has lost it some time go actually. Although what it is he has lost I don't think he is quite sure about.

[denizaksulu]

The reason why the Address is Mersin 10 is because there are no direct flights. How else could you sort the post in Turkey. It was a practical measure.

Really? And there was me thinking that Postal mail must be addressed 'via Mersin 10, TURKEY' because the Universal Postal Union does not recognise the 'TRNC' as a separate entity therefore all mail addressed to the 'TRNC' will be returned to the sender as 'undeliverable'.

GY-Fred is an idiot. The mail could easily be sent to Nicosia by the world, which is not embargoed, and then have the mail re-sent to the north.! The mail delivery by this method be most certainly much faster than going through Turkey.!

Are you sure the RoC government would agree to such an arrangement,Kikapu?

I inadvertently posted a letter with a normal address and it was delivered by the RoC to its Nicosia recipient. Dont ask me how. The recipients dont know either. (Re-directed I suppose).

[vaughanwilliams]

Well it wouldn't take YFred two mins to find out WHY they cannot get mail delivered in 'TRNC'. But I rather suspect he already knows it is to do with non recognition.

Since moving to TRNC I have had letters addressed to me directly in "Turkish Cyprus" and not via "Mersin-10, Turkey".
On 2 occasions it was from my bank in the UK, HSBC, and on another occasion from HMC&R, formerly known as the Inland Revenue.

[Kikapu]

I agree with much of what Kikapu says, although I think the risk of further wars is exaggerated with the current situation. RoC is too weak to attack. Turkey has no interest in attacking.

Time Does Not Stand Still, Observer.!

At another time and at another situation and at another condition, an another outcome is all too possible.!!

History is full of changes, all because of time.!

Kikapu,
Are you implying that one day,in the fullness of time as they say,the balance of power might change in such a way that the CNG might concievably be strong enough to pick a war with Turkey???

Hi Bir,

I did not mention any one group or any one thing that can/will make Turkey leave Cyprus. All I'm saying is, nothing is absolute and neither is Turkey's presence in Cyprus. Turkey may leave Cyprus on her own initiative in pursuit of other better and bigger things, or others may "persuade" her to leave whether she likes it or not. Nothing is absolute and nothing can be taken for granted. Those who believe Turkey is indestructible no matter what are the ones who believes that Time Does Stand Still, in which case, they have ignored historical events of the past history, absolutely.!!

[BirKibrisli]

I agree with much of what Kikapu says, although I think the risk of further wars is exaggerated with the current situation. RoC is too weak to attack. Turkey has no interest in attacking.

Time Does Not Stand Still, Observer.!

At another time and at another situation and at another condition, an another outcome is all too possible.!!

History is full of changes, all because of time.!

Kikapu,
Are you implying that one day,in the fullness of time as they say,the balance of power might change in such a way that the CNG might concievably be strong enough to pick a war with Turkey???

Can I answer? please can I answer?

Yes to he is and also yes to he has lost it some time go actually. Although what it is he has lost I don't think he is quite sure about.

Naughty,naughty....No,you can't answer for Kikapu...But it is too late anyway...Kikapu will tell us what he means when he sees my post,and then we will all know...

[BirKibrisli]

I agree with much of what Kikapu says, although I think the risk of further wars is exaggerated with the current situation. RoC is too weak to attack. Turkey has no interest in attacking.

Time Does Not Stand Still, Observer.!

At another time and at another situation and at another condition, an another outcome is all too possible.!!

History is full of changes, all because of time.!

Kikapu,
Are you implying that one day,in the fullness of time as they say,the balance of power might change in such a way that the CNG might concievably be strong enough to pick a war with Turkey???

Hi Bir,

I did not mention any one group or any one thing that can/will make Turkey leave Cyprus. All I'm saying is, nothing is absolute and neither is Turkey's presence in Cyprus. Turkey may leave Cyprus on her own initiative in pursuit of other better and bigger things, or others may "persuade" her to leave whether she likes it or not. Nothing is absolute and nothing can be taken for granted. Those who believe Turkey is indestructible no matter what are the ones who believes that Time Does Stand Still, in which case, they have ignored historical events of the past history, absolutely.!!

Fair enough,Kikapu....Time does not indeed stand still....But sometimes it might not go according to the wishes and desires of any groups or individuals...It has its own mind and logic...

[BirKibrisli]

The reason why the Address is Mersin 10 is because there are no direct flights. How else could you sort the post in Turkey. It was a practical measure.

Really? And there was me thinking that Postal mail must be addressed 'via Mersin 10, TURKEY' because the Universal Postal Union does not recognise the 'TRNC' as a separate entity therefore all mail addressed to the 'TRNC' will be returned to the sender as 'undeliverable'.

GY-Fred is an idiot. The mail could easily be sent to Nicosia by the world, which is not embargoed, and then have the mail re-sent to the north.! The mail delivery by this method be most certainly much faster than going through Turkey.!

Are you sure the RoC government would agree to such an arrangement,Kikapu?

I inadvertently posted a letter with a normal address and it was delivered by the RoC to its Nicosia recipient. Dont ask me how. The recipients dont know either. (Re-directed I suppose).

I would be delighted if there can be cooperation on this issue...Bananiot or DT might know the official position of the RoC on the postal services question...But given that they object to any sporting or even cultural contacts between the trnc and the world,I do not imagine they would agree to do it on a grand scale...But who knows?

[Kikapu]

The reason why the Address is Mersin 10 is because there are no direct flights. How else could you sort the post in Turkey. It was a practical measure.

Really? And there was me thinking that Postal mail must be addressed 'via Mersin 10, TURKEY' because the Universal Postal Union does not recognise the 'TRNC' as a separate entity therefore all mail addressed to the 'TRNC' will be returned to the sender as 'undeliverable'.

GY-Fred is an idiot. The mail could easily be sent to Nicosia by the world, which is not embargoed, and then have the mail re-sent to the north.! The mail delivery by this method be most certainly much faster than going through Turkey.!

Are you sure the RoC government would agree to such an arrangement,Kikapu?

I don't see the problem personally. Rather than labeling the address as Mersin 10, Turkey, label it as Nicosia 10, Cyprus. Let the TCs come and pick the mail from one location (Nicosia 10) by trucks and take it to the north to be delivered by themselves to the homes and businesses. It would bring extra revenue to the RoC, as long as RoC postage is used to send mail back to the world through the RoC. Certain percentage of the money spent by the TCs in sending mail out through the RoC by using RoC's postage can be paid to the north by the RoC to pay towards postman delivering the mail in the north after they arrived at "Nicosia 10".

I think it is more of the case that the north will reject such an idea, since they think they are an independent country. It has not sunk in yet to many in the north, that they are not.!

[Kikapu]

I agree with much of what Kikapu says, although I think the risk of further wars is exaggerated with the current situation. RoC is too weak to attack. Turkey has no interest in attacking.

Time Does Not Stand Still, Observer.!

At another time and at another situation and at another condition, an another outcome is all too possible.!!

History is full of changes, all because of time.!

Kikapu,
Are you implying that one day,in the fullness of time as they say,the balance of power might change in such a way that the CNG might concievably be strong enough to pick a war with Turkey???

Hi Bir,

I did not mention any one group or any one thing that can/will make Turkey leave Cyprus. All I'm saying is, nothing is absolute and neither is Turkey's presence in Cyprus. Turkey may leave Cyprus on her own initiative in pursuit of other better and bigger things, or others may "persuade" her to leave whether she likes it or not. Nothing is absolute and nothing can be taken for granted. Those who believe Turkey is indestructible no matter what are the ones who believes that Time Does Stand Still, in which case, they have ignored historical events of the past history, absolutely.!!

Fair enough,Kikapu....Time does not indeed stand still....But sometimes it might not go according to the wishes and desires of any groups or individuals...It has its own mind and logic...

Absolutely! Nothing is absolute!

[Kikapu]

The reason why the Address is Mersin 10 is because there are no direct flights. How else could you sort the post in Turkey. It was a practical measure.

Really? And there was me thinking that Postal mail must be addressed 'via Mersin 10, TURKEY' because the Universal Postal Union does not recognise the 'TRNC' as a separate entity therefore all mail addressed to the 'TRNC' will be returned to the sender as 'undeliverable'.

GY-Fred is an idiot. The mail could easily be sent to Nicosia by the world, which is not embargoed, and then have the mail re-sent to the north.! The mail delivery by this method be most certainly much faster than going through Turkey.!

Yep, the only problem is, I wouldn't piss in South nicosia while the embargoes apply. Just as well you only go there then innit mate?

No, you just take on their RoC passport and citizenship that you do not recognize when you don't even need one for convenience sake for travel, since you already have a British passport.!

What an hypocrite and a utter complete idiot you are, GY-Fred.!!