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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby halil » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:49 pm

insan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
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rastan wrote:Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!


Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...


kick it off by apologising then...


I have never beeen backward in coming forward with my apologies,DT...

Here it is again:

I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of the Turkish Army during the July-August,1974 operations...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war and the subsequent armed Turkish intervention which has turned into a long occupation...for the part the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Army played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry... :cry: :cry: :cry:


I too repeat what Bir said above and wish all TCs, Turks do the same wholeheartedly...

Besides, I appologize for all the wrongs and mistakes of my ancestors/members of my community had done to people of Cyprus throughout their rule, later during the British rule and afterwards 1960.


Me too .

beside same respect i accept from GC's too.
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Postby DTA » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:46 pm

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Postby DT. » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:16 pm

halil wrote:
insan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
rastan wrote:Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!


Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...


kick it off by apologising then...


I have never beeen backward in coming forward with my apologies,DT...

Here it is again:

I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of the Turkish Army during the July-August,1974 operations...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war and the subsequent armed Turkish intervention which has turned into a long occupation...for the part the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Army played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry... :cry: :cry: :cry:


I too repeat what Bir said above and wish all TCs, Turks do the same wholeheartedly...

Besides, I appologize for all the wrongs and mistakes of my ancestors/members of my community had done to people of Cyprus throughout their rule, later during the British rule and afterwards 1960.


Me too .

beside same respect i accept from GC's too.


Speaking for myself, I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of any millitia, fanatics or fascist groups that belonged to my community...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war for the part the Greek Cypriots played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry.

Lack of originality but Bir's was good enough for me.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:20 pm

cheers guys (and gals if any of you are of this gender)

i too will say the shame i feel: as a Greek, i am ashamed for the compatriots who displayed Ignorance, and who put their personal interests above the qualities we all share as Humans. for them and myself i ask forgiveness from the murdered, disappeared, displaced, and the families who suffered this horror.

thanks Bir, (again). thanks to those who have the courage to stand up and join those who have this courage.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:21 pm

Let's not forget Turkey's failed invasion attempt in 1964!

Just because they failed, it doesn't mean there weren't GCs racially targeted and killed with bombs and Napalm. Not to mention the turmoil it catapulted the country into, towards providing the climate for their successful invasion in 1974.

How about an apology for that?
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Postby B25 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:23 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
insan wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
rastan wrote:Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!


Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...


kick it off by apologising then...


I have never beeen backward in coming forward with my apologies,DT...

Here it is again:

I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of the Turkish Army during the July-August,1974 operations...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war and the subsequent armed Turkish intervention which has turned into a long occupation...for the part the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Army played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry... :cry: :cry: :cry:


I too repeat what Bir said above and wish all TCs, Turks do the same wholeheartedly...

Besides, I appologize for all the wrongs and mistakes of my ancestors/members of my community had done to people of Cyprus throughout their rule, later during the British rule and afterwards 1960.


Me too .

beside same respect i accept from GC's too.


Speaking for myself, I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of any millitia, fanatics or fascist groups that belonged to my community...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war for the part the Greek Cypriots played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry.

Lack of originality but Bir's was good enough for me.


OK, now that you have kissed and made up, will the turks now please F O back to turkey so we can have our Island back???

Bir, your apologies are false and you damn well know it. In the next breath you'll be threatening some other poor soul who dared croos your path and we GCs must all pay the price.

Please, don't insult us with your BS mate, cos I just know it doesn't come from the heart.

Read you last 50 posts, and tell me now, that you are sincerely apologising.

In fact you remind me of a wife beater, who beats the crap out of his wife and then he says sorry. Does he mean it? F no! Thats you Bir all over.

As my mate freddie would say. (and I do miss the bugger regardless),

mavron laomenon pou tin kelle mou.

Reh freddie pou pies je hahikes reh.
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:30 pm

Unkie GR appreciates Bir’s, Insan’s, Halil’s, and DTA’s apologies to our people, and on behalf of myself and my Choirokitian ancestors hereby extend my apologies to all Turkish Cypriots for all the past stupidities and wrongdoings coming from our people.

However, if we can’t agree to a one-person-one-vote system under a modern democracy then in future we should do it properly with an all-out war! :D
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Postby B25 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:33 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:cheers guys (and gals if any of you are of this gender)

i too will say the shame i feel: as a Greek, i am ashamed for the compatriots who displayed Ignorance, and who put their personal interests above the qualities we all share as Humans. for them and myself i ask forgiveness from the murdered, disappeared, displaced, and the families who suffered this horror.

thanks Bir, (again). thanks to those who have the courage to stand up and join those who have this courage.


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Postby Oracle » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:34 pm

It's very easy to apologise for 1974 because the atrocity is staring everyone in the face. An apology to such a thing is an insult without any effort to correct it.

Much harder to apologise for the real crux of the problem; the sabotage of the freedom fight in the 50s and the destruction of the government in the 60's and threats to invade Cyprus initiating from that time. An apology to these events will nullify any false justifications Turkey has used to substantiate its 1974 invasion. Apologising for 1974, only, is like saying sorry we hurt you in the process of righting all those wrongs you did to us in the past; whilst knowing all the while this is the way to keep what you have wrongfully gained -- apologise for causing our symptoms is not the same as apologising for being responsible for the actual cause!

Besides, an apology is meaningless without sincere efforts to correct the wrong ...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:36 pm

Did I miss something??? Where is YFred gone???
Come back,YF...B25 wants to personally apologise to you for all the wrongs he has personally done on this forum.... :)
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