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[YFred]

You have thus highlighted the Cyprus tragedy,rastan...Non-Cypriots appreciate and enjoy our country more than we do...We simply wanted to give our country away to Greece,and that made some of us want to unite with Turkey as a desperate measure to maintain some self rule,and that resulted in thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of people going into exile,and over 200 thousand becoming refugees in their own country...And what is our answer to all that??? Still blaming the other and trying to even the score...Cypriots do not deserve Cyprus. Given the latest comments and theads on this Forum, I think we should invite Israel to come and rule Cyprus with their iron fist...Only then there will be some hope for our country...

Since when have the Turkish policemen, not Tc, been maning the posts at the Green line, I recently passed through and had to speak to one of them, since I had a traffic ticket in the occuppied areas, they wore different uniforms then the people maning the regular posts, and wearing a side pistol, none of them spoke english and needed a Tc to translate.

The people behind the desks checking passports are not all policemen. Some of them are civilian support staff hired for the job and they wear a different uniform than the cops. The cops are not all TCs and even those that are do not necessarily speak good or even any English. Unfortunately, many TCs are now leaving school/college with little English language skills. There was a time when a GC would have to speak English to a TC, and vice-versa, in order to communicate. Sad to say that the drifting apart that has taken place since 1974 now means that even that option is going.

And there was a time,before 1964,that most TCs spoke perfect Cypro-Greek and most GCs spoke some Cypro-Turkish...They didn't need any other language to understand each other perfectly...

I wish I could? Mavroyerimo namini basdin kellendus.

Well,most "Cypriots" understand you YFred,even after all these years...that is something remarkable...You should be proud...

I used to be fluent, but did not speak it for 30 years and really started again since I joined the forum. Although I understand everything they say so long as they are speaking Cypriot and not that Ellatha crap.

[denizaksulu]

You have thus highlighted the Cyprus tragedy,rastan...Non-Cypriots appreciate and enjoy our country more than we do...We simply wanted to give our country away to Greece,and that made some of us want to unite with Turkey as a desperate measure to maintain some self rule,and that resulted in thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of people going into exile,and over 200 thousand becoming refugees in their own country...And what is our answer to all that??? Still blaming the other and trying to even the score...Cypriots do not deserve Cyprus. Given the latest comments and theads on this Forum, I think we should invite Israel to come and rule Cyprus with their iron fist...Only then there will be some hope for our country...

Since when have the Turkish policemen, not Tc, been maning the posts at the Green line, I recently passed through and had to speak to one of them, since I had a traffic ticket in the occuppied areas, they wore different uniforms then the people maning the regular posts, and wearing a side pistol, none of them spoke english and needed a Tc to translate.

The people behind the desks checking passports are not all policemen. Some of them are civilian support staff hired for the job and they wear a different uniform than the cops. The cops are not all TCs and even those that are do not necessarily speak good or even any English. Unfortunately, many TCs are now leaving school/college with little English language skills. There was a time when a GC would have to speak English to a TC, and vice-versa, in order to communicate. Sad to say that the drifting apart that has taken place since 1974 now means that even that option is going.

And there was a time,before 1964,that most TCs spoke perfect Cypro-Greek and most GCs spoke some Cypro-Turkish...They didn't need any other language to understand each other perfectly...

I wish I could? Mavroyerimo namini basdin kellendus.

Well,most "Cypriots" understand you YFred,even after all these years...that is something remarkable...You should be proud...

Who is he/she that understands Yfred; he/she desrves a Nobel Prize for..........?

I do, can I claim it?

Which bit of you?

[YFred]

You have thus highlighted the Cyprus tragedy,rastan...Non-Cypriots appreciate and enjoy our country more than we do...We simply wanted to give our country away to Greece,and that made some of us want to unite with Turkey as a desperate measure to maintain some self rule,and that resulted in thousands of deaths and tens of thousands of people going into exile,and over 200 thousand becoming refugees in their own country...And what is our answer to all that??? Still blaming the other and trying to even the score...Cypriots do not deserve Cyprus. Given the latest comments and theads on this Forum, I think we should invite Israel to come and rule Cyprus with their iron fist...Only then there will be some hope for our country...

Since when have the Turkish policemen, not Tc, been maning the posts at the Green line, I recently passed through and had to speak to one of them, since I had a traffic ticket in the occuppied areas, they wore different uniforms then the people maning the regular posts, and wearing a side pistol, none of them spoke english and needed a Tc to translate.

The people behind the desks checking passports are not all policemen. Some of them are civilian support staff hired for the job and they wear a different uniform than the cops. The cops are not all TCs and even those that are do not necessarily speak good or even any English. Unfortunately, many TCs are now leaving school/college with little English language skills. There was a time when a GC would have to speak English to a TC, and vice-versa, in order to communicate. Sad to say that the drifting apart that has taken place since 1974 now means that even that option is going.

And there was a time,before 1964,that most TCs spoke perfect Cypro-Greek and most GCs spoke some Cypro-Turkish...They didn't need any other language to understand each other perfectly...

I wish I could? Mavroyerimo namini basdin kellendus.

Well,most "Cypriots" understand you YFred,even after all these years...that is something remarkable...You should be proud...

Who is he/she that understands Yfred; he/she desrves a Nobel Prize for..........?

I do, can I claim it?

Which bit of you?

Does it matter? So long as one part of me gets it.

[rastan]

Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!

[repulsewarrior]

bravo!!!

rastan, i thank-you, and all Cypriots thank-you too.

...there are "Greeks" and "Turks", there are Cypriots who are Greek and Turkish too. my hope, now that you've seen it, is that you do not forget the humble with grace who truly love this island first. please tell your friends that actually there are three sides to the Cyprus Problem.

cheers!

[BirKibrisli]

Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!

Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...

[DT.]

Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!

Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...

kick it off by apologising then...

[BirKibrisli]

Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!

Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...

kick it off by apologising then...

I have never beeen backward in coming forward with my apologies,DT...

Here it is again:

I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of the Turkish Army during the July-August,1974 operations...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war and the subsequent armed Turkish intervention which has turned into a long occupation...for the part the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Army played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry...

[insan]

Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!

Good to hear encouraging words from independent observers,rastan...Thanks for your comments,and for your interest in our homeland...One of these days we will realise how badly we have treated our beloved Cyprus,and how badly we have treated each other...Then we will put aside all the silly excuses,assume responsibility for our own actions in the past,develop empathy and compassion for each other,and find a solution which will take us forward towards becoming one proud and happy nation of Cypriots...

kick it off by apologising then...

I have never beeen backward in coming forward with my apologies,DT...

Here it is again:

I would like to personally apologise to all those innocent Cypriot brothers and sisters who who were killed,injured,or otherwise traumatised by the actions of the Turkish Army during the July-August,1974 operations...I feel special empathy and compasson for the innocent children whose lives were turned upside down,their childhood ruined and stolen by the mindless civil war and the subsequent armed Turkish intervention which has turned into a long occupation...for the part the Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Army played in this sorry saga, I am deeply sorry...

I too repeat what Bir said above and wish all TCs, Turks do the same wholeheartedly...

Besides, I appologize for all the wrongs and mistakes of my ancestors/members of my community had done to people of Cyprus throughout their rule, later during the British rule and afterwards 1960.

[kafenes]

Am I missing something, or are you all actually good friends on this forum? I know I attended a Turkish Cypriot wedding a few months ago here in England & there were many Greek Cypriots that were also in attendance & were good friends of either the bride or groom.....seems to me that all Cypriots are pretty much with each other here in England...the one thing that Greek & Turkish Cypriots agree on is that they don't trust politicians!

I'm English, I have no bias towards Greeks or Turks - I love ALL Cypriots, they all treated myself and my family so well when I was in Cyprus - YOU SHOULD BE SO PROUD TO BE CYPRIOTS, YOU HAVE THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD...FORGET GREECE, FORGET TURKEY....YOU ARE CYPRUS, YOU ARE THE BEST! Cyprus does not belong to Greece or Turkey, you are Cyprus and you should should be proud to be Cypriots!

Rastan, you are a stirring bullshit artist just like the ones who started the Cyprus conflict.