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[Kikapu]

Reh Yfred and MR-from-NG

I've met Paphitis and he is a PILOT! Why is it so hard to acknowledge? What has his chosen profession have anything to do with the Cyprus Problem?

You may not agree with his views or like him personally, but attacking in the way you two are is downright shameless.

Sorry Umit. We just wanted to see conclusive irrefutable evidence that will stand up in court. That is what is expected of us on this forum and the same should be for our GC cousins living in the southern lands.

Gadalaves re Umitui?

There is an old Terkish proverb "Ayip Yorgan Altinda". Dasshhak ALi dayi indeed.

Let them taste what it's like to be taken to task about something which we can prove never mind something which cannot be proven, like being shot at by the bastards eoka.

This is not a court room you idiot. It is a public forum where only public opinion counts, and the overwhelming opinion was, that Paphitis is a professional pilot. Only idiots such as yourself and MR-from-NG think this is a court room.!!.. What morons.!

[Kikapu]

MR-from-NG, urged on by sideshow twat… moving the goal posts sucks!

There’s no way you can get all those (mostly insignificant) pages of a pilot’s license and related correspondence off the internet!

This isn’t about money but about being man enough to admit you were wrong!

Here’s hoping that we’ll never see another fool again bragging and placing bets!

This time round we'll treat them with the contempt they deserve early on…

What I posted was an official Civil Aviation Safety Authority Rev 12/2003 Flight Crew Licence Wallet, which holds 8 pages. Within this wallet is an official Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL), an official Air Transport Pilot Licence, an official Command Instrument (with DGA, ILS, LLZ, NDB and VOR endorsements) Rating Multi Engine (CIR ME) valid till 30 Nov 2010 (a new advice needs to be issued by filling the relevant forms in the below link along with payment of a $50 fee (I think?), a Class 1 and Class 2 Medical Certificate and my ASIC with photo.

http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?W ... c=PC_91267

What I don't hold is a Private Pilot Licence (PPL) or a Night VFR (NVFR) Licence. I received Government dispensations from completing these courses and this is NOT standard practice, but is applicable to those who have a certain type of experience!

The licences are completely real. My name, address, and signature were only partially concealed and I did this using PAINT within accessories. My Aviation reference Number (ARN) was completely concealed. I did this to protect my identity, and I have every right to do so.

But there is far more than what I provided. I have 7 log books, 15 CIR ME renewals, 15 type endorsements, 19 Class 1 Medical Renewals, Dangerous Goods Awareness certification, IREX, Civil Aviation Regulation 217 Line Currency Log, GFPT and Retractable Undercarriage, Constant Speed Propeller endorsement, Gas Turbine Endorsement, and Military Discharge.

I also hold CAR 217 approvals to instruct Cockpit Resource Management, Cockpit Systems Management (CRM), and Human Factors and do hold regular internal classes and workshops for new recruits and checked to line pilots as part of their Ground School and currency requirements as outlined in Australian Civil Aviation Regulations 217. All this material is available to you and Milti alone, only because the both of you have a "special" relationship with this shithead and because I think I can trust both of you with my ID. I don't believe for a second that you are capable of doing the dirty on me.

Now, let's be very clear, I didn't want to provide anything and wasn't very interested to play MR-from-NG's silly little game. I, and Kikapu, kept warning the stupid imbecile on many pages of this ridiculous thread out of concern, and I even gave him 2 very clear opportunities to withdraw his losing bet or at least reduce the amount of the bet to a modest amount instead of the 5K. Personally, I would've preferred he withdraw completely, because I really don't need or am obligated to provide any supporting evidence about my Aviation Qualifications or experience. This is a political forum, and here I am not a pilot but just another typical forum member just like you. Here, I am just Paphitis, trying to learn as much as possible about Cyprus and also use the forum to socialise with other Cypriots and be entertained with many funny and sometimes not so funny moments.

MR-from-NG kept on ridiculing me, tried to discredit me throughout, was warned to back off and did exactly that, but was then drawn back into this losing battle. He made the wrong move, because if he wasn't drawn back in, I wouldn't have provided any supporting evidence whatsoever, and there would have always been an element of doubt as to my qualifications and profession. But no, he was egged on by the King of idiots, Gay-Fred. After giving him another opportunity to back out, he kept confronting me with very offensive allegations and innuendos. There was only so much shit someone can take and cop it sweet. But he kept going on and on, until I eventually had enough and gave him exactly what he asked for, making a massive fool of himself. He should've taken our advice and backed out whilst he could, and no one would've known whether or not I am a pilot. It is really no one's business at all, and I don't need to prove anything to any forum member on the internet.

Aviation is a life passion for me. It has nearly killed me! It gave me the best moments in my life, only matched by another private wonder of life. It has taken me all over the world and given me the best life experiences one could wish for. It has also challenged and possessed my inner soul, defeated me and even taken away my confidence and self esteem in the process until, somehow, even when you think all is lost, you persevere, work hard and overcome the challenges thrown at you. I love talking about Aviation with Kikapu, and I have posted enough to suggest that I do indeed have a very in depth knowledge about anything Aviation related, that goes a little beyond just being an avid enthusiast like MR-from-NG. As a matter of fact, when I discuss things with Kikapu, I was even forced to open a manual or 2, to search for answers, and so I am very happy to say that Kikapu has managed to teach this old sea dog a thing or 2. I find that valuable, and I am forever grateful for the stimulation.

MR-from-NG fucked up big time, and we tried to warn him about his very stupid game. But then again, the guy never had anything to lose, because he never intended upholding his end of the bargain. The guy is scum, because he now refuses to pay up after losing his stupid bet fair and square. If I lost, I would've paid. My reputation amongst certain individuals here is important. I do care about what those certain people would think if my actions were as deceitful and underhanded as MR-from-NG. Fortunately, he is the one with egg on his face, because he has now been exposed as the liar he truly is. He bloody asked for it, and got exactly what he deserves!

Excellent post, Paphitis. I know MR-from-NG is a very novice pilot, like myself really, and I too enjoy discussing aviation with you, because I learn things from you, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if a person has a great in-depth knowledge in aviation, chances are, that person is a pilot. I don't know too many people who would just learn the subject of aviation and not practice it by flying a plane, as long as they are able to pass the physical test, of course. It would be like a man being interested in women, but would not take the next step to meet one.!

Anyway, you did well to put MR-from-NG and GY-Fred away and their "white trash" attitudes. Unless MR-from-NG pays up, he will be known as the loser "white trash" of the Cyprus Forum. !!

[Kikapu]

But have you ever heard of a Pitot Tube? or whether you should cover it?

Too bad your father did not put a cover on his "pitot tube" before having you, just so to help the world from being dumbed down a little.!

[larnacaman]

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How, ....coming here as a Tourist can you get away with spending just 63 euros a day?? ....especially those that are self catering.

How do they know who is spending what, and what on?? The truth is they don't, they are just guessing, using speculative computer programs, that are only as good as the data put into them and the parameters of the program it's self...

I see there still banding about this 12% GDP ...haha!!!

The finance ministry expects a 0.5 growth in 2010, the central bank, say no, ... not until 2011, .....and the rest of the EU major players are saying there not expecting any growth for the next 3 years, over 0.1 or 0.2%, and then only towards the end of those 3 years!!! So who are you going to believe, CY Stat's, or EU's stat's, ...both are based purely on someones predictions of ''maybe'', ''could be'', ''possibly'' and ''If''.....!!!

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[Acikgoz]

Lman, it does suggest that the contribution to GDP of 12% is based off a very narrow definition.
Anyone knows that when you incorporate flight, accommodation, daily meals, a few drinks, excursion etc. there is NO WAY that amount is 60 EUR per day (that is the price of 1 meal!). Personally it backs the argument that the supported industries are not being incorporated into those figures that disguise the importance of the tourism industry.

[Kikapu]

OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?

He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected.

For crying out loud BigOz, why didn't you just tell me that the aircraft had and AP?

I had assumed that there was no 3 axis AP, because the kid would've been flying something light like a C152/C172 for example and most don't have APs.

I have couple of questions to Paphitis and BigOz.

I have never flown with a AP, so I don't know what happens when the pilot comes and turns everything electrical on to go for a flight. I only had "trim tap" adjuster to help fly with less effort on the yoke.

If the AP was left ON from previous flight, but all electrical systems were turned off, would that not then disengage the AP automatically, or would the AP remain ON when the next pilot comes along for a flight, turns on the electrical system, and then takes off without the take off check list. The question is, does the AP needs to be turned off manually before all the electrical system is shut down, so that when the next pilot turns on the electrical system on, that the AP also remains OFF.

BigOz stated that it was the mechanic that had left the AP ON, so, does that then mean that the pilot took the plane from the mechanic while all the electrical system was already running, which may explain that the AP was still in the ON position..??

Also, are there no indicators anywhere on the dash board that shows the AP is activated in ON position.?? If there is one, how come this pilot did not see that the AP was activated, which was causing him the problems.

I have a hard time to believe, that anyone who goes for a flight, experienced or beginner, that they did not go through the check list.!!

On a side note, when my flight medical was active many years ago, I would receive from the FAA quarterly( I think) safety news letters with real case scenarios as what BigOz described. They were very educational to know what silly mistakes can be made by pilots as well as problems with the aircraft, and to look out for them. As I've said, they were very educational.

[larnacaman]

Acikgoz,

Fully agree with your comments regarding, not taking other supported industries into account when banding about the 12% farsical figure. But what there talking about in your previous post is what these tourists are actually spending while in Cyprus. Taking an average family of 2 adults and 2 children, they ain't gonna get much of a holiday on 63 euros a day. Even if they eat at the cheapest of eateries.

One of the biggest problems with any statistical data, is what and how are they collecting, ...to produce these statistics. If they published those facts, at least then, the general public would have a decent idea of just how accurate there figures are, ...or rather Not!!!

[Kikapu]

Acikgoz,

Fully agree with your comments regarding, not taking other supported industries into account when banding about the 12% farsical figure. But what there talking about in your previous post is what these tourists are actually spending while in Cyprus. Taking an average family of 2 adults and 2 children, they ain't gonna get much of a holiday on 63 euros a day. Even if they eat at the cheapest of eateries.

One of the biggest problems with any statistical data, is what and how are they collecting, ...to produce these statistics. If they published those facts, at least then, the general public would have a decent idea of just how accurate there figures are, ...or rather Not!!!

The problem is, not everybody who goes to Cyprus, or any other country for that matter for a holiday, are a tourist in the true sense. Many stay with family and friends and do not spend money like what real tourist does, so your average 63 Euros per day may be correct on average, just like giving the Per Capita earnings based on the country's GDP. It is just an average, and nothing else.!

[larnacaman]

Then, ....They shouldn't publish these figures, if they bare no relationship to tourists. I see where your going with your thoughts here, and when you state the GDP capita earnings example, this figure again is known to be meaningless.

The fact is, that these statistics are giving the general public a totally unrealistic state of affairs of their tourist industry. For some reason, they seem to be playing down the real importance of the Cyprus tourist industry!!!!
Perhaps they don't want you to know, just how important it is ....i really don't know...

[georgios100]

@Deniz

When Yfred first arrived on the CY forum scene at least he was trying to make a point. Now all he seems to do is stir people up, I'd say worse than you know whO .

@Yfred

Pull yourself together and stop the pointless insults and stirring up tactics.

After a year, GY-Fred is still trying to make the same point from a year ago.!

Yeah, Y-my ass-Fred, write something intelligent for a change!