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Postby Lit » Thu May 27, 2010 7:05 am

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Oracle wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:Now can you see how they have changed the history of our country?


The history of your country, Turkey, has not been changed by us!

But, you have demonstrated why even the Arabs say: "The last thing a Turk ever does, is stab you in the back!"

Oracle I am a little confused at your quote of what an Arab might sayabout Turks! Turks never stabbed the Arabs in the back but gracefully ignored them over the past 100 years or so! This in fact was due to Ottomans being stabbed in the back by the Arabs during the first World War.

Arse loving filthy Arab leaders got laid by a famous homosexual called Lawrence of Arabia. A lot of money and a pice of hairless white arse gave anough reason for these Arabs to kill an army of Turks in their tents whilst they slept. Causing a hasty retreat in the Middle East. They then got fucked by the very people they helped - who installed the state of Israel in their backyard! Talking about Arabs? :roll:


Your words are wasted on Oracle,big OZ...She is deaf to history and objective thought...You have to treat her a bit firmer than that...Here I will give you a hand...Just for Oracle.....to enjoy..... :lol: :lol:



You know who else dreams about the late Pappa Turk? Tim! Oh, if only he were here...he certainly would have loved to see this video. He can go on and on about Pappa Turk...

TIM: He banned the fez for more traditional western hats! They called him ... ATATURK!


Whoa. Ok, ok Tim, calm down. Ahhhh, now those were the days. :D

If you don't mind, Since you are posting videos...id like to post one of my own for B|tch-from-NG. So without further ado, here is a video for you NG. Enjoy.



Strut on by like a king
Telling everybody they know nothing,
And long live what you thought you were,
And time ain't on your side anymore (anymore)

And so you tell me I
Can't take my chances,
But I told you one too many times,
And you were crying like a bitch.

I'm tougher than nails.
I can promise you that.
Step out of line
And you get bitch-slapped back.
And you can run
Your little mouth all day...


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Postby Paphitis » Thu May 27, 2010 8:16 am

Get Real! wrote:MR-from-NG, urged on by sideshow twat… moving the goal posts sucks!

There’s no way you can get all those (mostly insignificant) pages of a pilot’s license and related correspondence off the internet!

This isn’t about money but about being man enough to admit you were wrong!

Here’s hoping that we’ll never see another fool again bragging and placing bets!

This time round we'll treat them with the contempt they deserve early on…


What I posted was an official Civil Aviation Safety Authority Rev 12/2003 Flight Crew Licence Wallet, which holds 8 pages. Within this wallet is an official Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL), an official Air Transport Pilot Licence, an official Command Instrument (with DGA, ILS, LLZ, NDB and VOR endorsements) Rating Multi Engine (CIR ME) valid till 30 Nov 2010 (a new advice needs to be issued by filling the relevant forms in the below link along with payment of a $50 fee (I think?), a Class 1 and Class 2 Medical Certificate and my ASIC with photo.

http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?W ... c=PC_91267

What I don't hold is a Private Pilot Licence (PPL) or a Night VFR (NVFR) Licence. I received Government dispensations from completing these courses and this is NOT standard practice, but is applicable to those who have a certain type of experience!

The licences are completely real. My name, address, and signature were only partially concealed and I did this using PAINT within accessories. My Aviation reference Number (ARN) was completely concealed. I did this to protect my identity, and I have every right to do so.

But there is far more than what I provided. I have 7 log books, 15 CIR ME renewals, 15 type endorsements, 19 Class 1 Medical Renewals, Dangerous Goods Awareness certification, IREX, Civil Aviation Regulation 217 Line Currency Log, GFPT and Retractable Undercarriage, Constant Speed Propeller endorsement, Gas Turbine Endorsement, and Military Discharge.

I also hold CAR 217 approvals to instruct Cockpit Resource Management, Cockpit Systems Management (CRM), and Human Factors and do hold regular internal classes and workshops for new recruits and checked to line pilots as part of their Ground School and currency requirements as outlined in Australian Civil Aviation Regulations 217. All this material is available to you and Milti alone, only because the both of you have a "special" relationship with this shithead and because I think I can trust both of you with my ID. I don't believe for a second that you are capable of doing the dirty on me.

Now, let's be very clear, I didn't want to provide anything and wasn't very interested to play MR-from-NG's silly little game. I, and Kikapu, kept warning the stupid imbecile on many pages of this ridiculous thread out of concern, and I even gave him 2 very clear opportunities to withdraw his losing bet or at least reduce the amount of the bet to a modest amount instead of the 5K. Personally, I would've preferred he withdraw completely, because I really don't need or am obligated to provide any supporting evidence about my Aviation Qualifications or experience. This is a political forum, and here I am not a pilot but just another typical forum member just like you. Here, I am just Paphitis, trying to learn as much as possible about Cyprus and also use the forum to socialise with other Cypriots and be entertained with many funny and sometimes not so funny moments.

MR-from-NG kept on ridiculing me, tried to discredit me throughout, was warned to back off and did exactly that, but was then drawn back into this losing battle. He made the wrong move, because if he wasn't drawn back in, I wouldn't have provided any supporting evidence whatsoever, and there would have always been an element of doubt as to my qualifications and profession. But no, he was egged on by the King of idiots, Gay-Fred. After giving him another opportunity to back out, he kept confronting me with very offensive allegations and innuendos. There was only so much shit someone can take and cop it sweet. But he kept going on and on, until I eventually had enough and gave him exactly what he asked for, making a massive fool of himself. He should've taken our advice and backed out whilst he could, and no one would've known whether or not I am a pilot. It is really no one's business at all, and I don't need to prove anything to any forum member on the internet.

Aviation is a life passion for me. It has nearly killed me! It gave me the best moments in my life, only matched by another private wonder of life. It has taken me all over the world and given me the best life experiences one could wish for. It has also challenged and possessed my inner soul, defeated me and even taken away my confidence and self esteem in the process until, somehow, even when you think all is lost, you persevere, work hard and overcome the challenges thrown at you. I love talking about Aviation with Kikapu, and I have posted enough to suggest that I do indeed have a very in depth knowledge about anything Aviation related, that goes a little beyond just being an avid enthusiast like MR-from-NG. As a matter of fact, when I discuss things with Kikapu, I was even forced to open a manual or 2, to search for answers, and so I am very happy to say that Kikapu has managed to teach this old sea dog a thing or 2. I find that valuable, and I am forever grateful for the stimulation.

MR-from-NG fucked up big time, and we tried to warn him about his very stupid game. But then again, the guy never had anything to lose, because he never intended upholding his end of the bargain. The guy is scum, because he now refuses to pay up after losing his stupid bet fair and square. If I lost, I would've paid. My reputation amongst certain individuals here is important. I do care about what those certain people would think if my actions were as deceitful and underhanded as MR-from-NG. Fortunately, he is the one with egg on his face, because he has now been exposed as the liar he truly is. He bloody asked for it, and got exactly what he deserves! :!:
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Postby Paphitis » Thu May 27, 2010 8:20 am

bigOz wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
bigOz wrote:OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?


He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected. :)


For crying out loud BigOz, why didn't you just tell me that the aircraft had and AP?

I had assumed that there was no 3 axis AP, because the kid would've been flying something light like a C152/C172 for example and most don't have APs.
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Postby YFred » Thu May 27, 2010 9:50 am

Paphitis wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
bigOz wrote:OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?


He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected. :)


For crying out loud BigOz, why didn't you just tell me that the aircraft had and AP?

I had assumed that there was no 3 axis AP, because the kid would've been flying something light like a C152/C172 for example and most don't have APs.

He also didn't tell you that the man did not have two arms, so? As a pilot you should consider all eventualities. I could have told you that there will be several reasons and I don't even have a bike license.


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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu May 27, 2010 9:53 am

Lit wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:Now can you see how they have changed the history of our country?


The history of your country, Turkey, has not been changed by us!

But, you have demonstrated why even the Arabs say: "The last thing a Turk ever does, is stab you in the back!"

Oracle I am a little confused at your quote of what an Arab might sayabout Turks! Turks never stabbed the Arabs in the back but gracefully ignored them over the past 100 years or so! This in fact was due to Ottomans being stabbed in the back by the Arabs during the first World War.

Arse loving filthy Arab leaders got laid by a famous homosexual called Lawrence of Arabia. A lot of money and a pice of hairless white arse gave anough reason for these Arabs to kill an army of Turks in their tents whilst they slept. Causing a hasty retreat in the Middle East. They then got fucked by the very people they helped - who installed the state of Israel in their backyard! Talking about Arabs? :roll:


Your words are wasted on Oracle,big OZ...She is deaf to history and objective thought...You have to treat her a bit firmer than that...Here I will give you a hand...Just for Oracle.....to enjoy..... :lol: :lol:



You know who else dreams about the late Pappa Turk? Tim! Oh, if only he were here...he certainly would have loved to see this video. He can go on and on about Pappa Turk...

TIM: He banned the fez for more traditional western hats! They called him ... ATATURK!


Whoa. Ok, ok Tim, calm down. Ahhhh, now those were the days. :D

If you don't mind, Since you are posting videos...id like to post one of my own for B|tch-from-NG. So without further ado, here is a video for you NG. Enjoy.



Strut on by like a king
Telling everybody they know nothing,
And long live what you thought you were,
And time ain't on your side anymore (anymore)

And so you tell me I
Can't take my chances,
But I told you one too many times,
And you were crying like a bitch.

I'm tougher than nails.
I can promise you that.
Step out of line
And you get bitch-slapped back.
And you can run
Your little mouth all day...


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Hey,Lit...You've flipped your lid...Calm down and all will be well....Turkey is coming to cure you of your Greek fanaticism...Have no fear...It won't hurt one bit... :wink:
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Postby YFred » Thu May 27, 2010 11:34 am

bigOz wrote:
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bigOz wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
bigOz wrote:OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?


He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected. :)

But have you ever heard of a Pitot Tube? or whether you should cover it?


Yes I have heard of a pitot tube! It's the air intake tube that has a very fine nozzle. As the aircraft gains speed, the airflow through this nozzle is directed to instruments such as the Air Speed Indicator, Atimeter, Vertical Speed indicator etc.

Any blocking of pitot tube head by insects or ice on the ground can be dangerous, resulting in above instruments giving erronous readings. Hence, when parked for very long periods aircraft are expected to use a pitot cover which is like a condom that fits over the nozzle - usually with colourful long strips dangling from it (so that pilots can notice and do not forget to remove it before the next flight) :D

What would be the effect if the plane takes off with them covered? Could it cause the effect you said, cause Bafidobullui claimed it would be the cause of the problem you posed.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 27, 2010 12:14 pm

YFred wrote:What would be the effect if the plane takes off with them covered? Could it cause the effect you said, cause Bafidobullui claimed it would be the cause of the problem you posed.

Image They've already told you! It's a fucking skinny tube that comes off the body of a plane and then bends in the direction of the nose to measure how much air is coming through and thus figure out the speed etc.

If the plane takes off and it’s covered some of the instruments will be misinformed just like your brain! You see, you’ve got a couple of them pitots still stuck up your arse that's why you're so thick! :lol:
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Postby YFred » Thu May 27, 2010 12:40 pm

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:What would be the effect if the plane takes off with them covered? Could it cause the effect you said, cause Bafidobullui claimed it would be the cause of the problem you posed.

Image They've already told you! It's a fucking skinny tube that comes off the body of a plane and then bends in the direction of the nose to measure how much air is coming through and thus figure out the speed etc.

If the plane takes off and it’s covered some of the instruments will be misinformed just like your brain! You see, you’ve got a couple of them pitots still stuck up your arse that's why you're so thick! :lol:

I seems you are not paying attention. He did not confirm that it would cause the effect Puffidobullo claimed. I just wanted it cleared. Perhaps you can uncover yours, you brain dead dipstick.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 27, 2010 1:48 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:What would be the effect if the plane takes off with them covered? Could it cause the effect you said, cause Bafidobullui claimed it would be the cause of the problem you posed.

Image They've already told you! It's a fucking skinny tube that comes off the body of a plane and then bends in the direction of the nose to measure how much air is coming through and thus figure out the speed etc.

If the plane takes off and it’s covered some of the instruments will be misinformed just like your brain! You see, you’ve got a couple of them pitots still stuck up your arse that's why you're so thick! :lol:

I seems you are not paying attention. He did not confirm that it would cause the effect Puffidobullo claimed. I just wanted it cleared. Perhaps you can uncover yours, you brain dead dipstick.

Re golotzi… there’s more IQ in a pitot than your whole family put together! :lol:
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Postby Gasman » Thu May 27, 2010 1:49 pm

Hasn't this thread come a long way from old Rasta lecturing us about him and his not going to spend their holiday money here!
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