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[YFred]

MR-from-NG, urged on by sideshow twat… moving the goal posts sucks!

There’s no way you can get all those (mostly insignificant) pages of a pilot’s license and related correspondence off the internet!

This isn’t about money but about being man enough to admit you were wrong!

Here’s hoping that we’ll never see another fool again bragging and placing bets!

This time round we'll treat them with the contempt they deserve early on…

Calm down this is cyber space nothing counts.

No! You are confused from over-hearing: "This is TRNC nothing counts!"

Correction, didn't you mean "trnc" ??

The whole thing was in quotes!

I wish you would use single speech marks rather than double. I feel I am being suffocated with love with double speech marks. Please have some courtesy for us sensitive sort when you post.

[Get Real!]

Look, I’m as shocked as anyone else here that Paphitis holds ANY license let alone that of a pilot… I wouldn’t even trust him with a tricycle, but skippy has posted enough evidence to win his bet/argument fair & square!

Good on ya skippy! Remind me not to treat you like shit for a month!

[Oracle]

MR-from-NG, urged on by sideshow twat… moving the goal posts sucks!

There’s no way you can get all those (mostly insignificant) pages of a pilot’s license and related correspondence off the internet!

This isn’t about money but about being man enough to admit you were wrong!

Here’s hoping that we’ll never see another fool again bragging and placing bets!

This time round we'll treat them with the contempt they deserve early on…

Calm down this is cyber space nothing counts.

No! You are confused from over-hearing: "This is TRNC nothing counts!"

Correction, didn't you mean "trnc" ??

The whole thing was in quotes!

I wish you would use single speech marks rather than double. I feel I am being suffocated with love with double speech marks. Please have some courtesy for us sensitive sort when you post.

Standard quotes serve for speech or direct quotes. Singles are for marking out text.

Get educated, soon please!

[FragnaticDeath]

MR-from-NG a fool at it's best. Go cry at a corner after you lost your 5k bet

[YFred]

MR-from-NG, urged on by sideshow twat… moving the goal posts sucks!

There’s no way you can get all those (mostly insignificant) pages of a pilot’s license and related correspondence off the internet!

This isn’t about money but about being man enough to admit you were wrong!

Here’s hoping that we’ll never see another fool again bragging and placing bets!

This time round we'll treat them with the contempt they deserve early on…

Calm down this is cyber space nothing counts.

No! You are confused from over-hearing: "This is TRNC nothing counts!"

Correction, didn't you mean "trnc" ??

The whole thing was in quotes!

I wish you would use single speech marks rather than double. I feel I am being suffocated with love with double speech marks. Please have some courtesy for us sensitive sort when you post.

Standard quotes serve for speech or direct quotes. Singles are for marking out text.

Get educated, soon please!

But even if it give the impression of a prison with highest security the irony is that it makes us feel very insecure. Just forget about the grammer rules once in your life.

[bigOz]

OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?

He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected.

[YFred]

OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?

He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected.

But have you ever heard of a Pitot Tube? or whether you should cover it?

[bigOz]

Now can you see how they have changed the history of our country?

The history of your country, Turkey, has not been changed by us!

But, you have demonstrated why even the Arabs say: "The last thing a Turk ever does, is stab you in the back!"

Oracle I am a little confused at your quote of what an Arab might sayabout Turks! Turks never stabbed the Arabs in the back but gracefully ignored them over the past 100 years or so! This in fact was due to Ottomans being stabbed in the back by the Arabs during the first World War.

Arse loving filthy Arab leaders got laid by a famous homosexual called Lawrence of Arabia. A lot of money and a pice of hairless white arse gave anough reason for these Arabs to kill an army of Turks in their tents whilst they slept. Causing a hasty retreat in the Middle East. They then got fucked by the very people they helped - who installed the state of Israel in their backyard! Talking about Arabs?

[bigOz]

OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?

He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Thanks for trying Paphitis! Also thank you for your other detailed replies.
Your answer to the above incident for part (a) is correct! The action would provide what we would call a 'skid' and allow the aircraft touch down safely - albeit with full rudder, a lot of forward pressure on control column and increased power to maintain the correct glide path.

The answer to part (b) for this actual incident at an Airfield in UK (by a close associate many moons ago) was in fact due to incomplete pre flight checks!

The person in question did not bother with checking the state of the auto pilot. It should always be OFF during take off and in a circuit. On this occasion it was left ON by ground crew who checked the power to the navigational instruments. Autopilot was tuned to a nearby VOR and it kept trying to roll towards its direction. Beacause of the terrain take off and crosswind legs were unaffected.

But have you ever heard of a Pitot Tube? or whether you should cover it?

Yes I have heard of a pitot tube! It's the air intake tube that has a very fine nozzle. As the aircraft gains speed, the airflow through this nozzle is directed to instruments such as the Air Speed Indicator, Atimeter, Vertical Speed indicator etc.

Any blocking of pitot tube head by insects or ice on the ground can be dangerous, resulting in above instruments giving erronous readings. Hence, when parked for very long periods aircraft are expected to use a pitot cover which is like a condom that fits over the nozzle - usually with colourful long strips dangling from it (so that pilots can notice and do not forget to remove it before the next flight)

[BirKibrisli]

Now can you see how they have changed the history of our country?

The history of your country, Turkey, has not been changed by us!

But, you have demonstrated why even the Arabs say: "The last thing a Turk ever does, is stab you in the back!"

Oracle I am a little confused at your quote of what an Arab might sayabout Turks! Turks never stabbed the Arabs in the back but gracefully ignored them over the past 100 years or so! This in fact was due to Ottomans being stabbed in the back by the Arabs during the first World War.

Arse loving filthy Arab leaders got laid by a famous homosexual called Lawrence of Arabia. A lot of money and a pice of hairless white arse gave anough reason for these Arabs to kill an army of Turks in their tents whilst they slept. Causing a hasty retreat in the Middle East. They then got fucked by the very people they helped - who installed the state of Israel in their backyard! Talking about Arabs?

Your words are wasted on Oracle,big OZ...She is deaf to history and objective thought...You have to treat her a bit firmer than that...Here I will give you a hand...Just for Oracle.....to enjoy.....