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When VP starts posting Turkish propaganda videos we can all know he run out of arguments.

The same can be said of yours, I have proven beyond a doubt that the troubles between TCs and GCs started well before 1958. You are a liar Piratis.

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I simply wanted to set the record straight about who is really responsible for the inter-communal conflict.

To what end? You won't persuade the likes of VP or indeed many of the more moderate TCs who post on CF. It's a pointless exercise, it simply fuels the engine of hate. Both sides have made mistakes, posts like yours simply give the other side more ammunition to fight for their partitionist cause.

When the TCs day and night propagandize their own distorted version of the inter-communal conflict trying to blame it on us and excuse in this way their crimes and unfair demands is not a "pointless exercise" that "simply fuels the engine of hate"? Your problem is with setting the record strength and restoring the truth?

Posts like mine remove the ammunition from the partitionists. I am sure many GCs in this forum, especially the younger ones, did not know about the events of that time. It is our duty to restore the truth and not to allow the Turkish propagandists to spread their lies.

Posts like yours are lies and only fuels the belief that you can never trust GCs and that if we are ever foolish enough to agree a solution we demand guarantees and plenty of safeguards.

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Whilst I too find these types of threads pointless and negative, there is also the fact that there has been an apology from the GC side.

Unless I have missed it, I have yet to hear anything from the TC side.

When where and how...was a half baked insincere statement used like you are doing so now to further the GC cause of trying to show they regret the shit they did in the past. Not good enough.

[Me Ed]

Whilst I too find these types of threads pointless and negative, there is also the fact that there has been an apology from the GC side.

Unless I have missed it, I have yet to hear anything from the TC side.

When where and how...was a half baked insincere statement used like you are doing so now to further the GC cause of trying to show they regret the shit they did in the past. Not good enough.

VP, the regret should work both ways.

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Whilst I too find these types of threads pointless and negative, there is also the fact that there has been an apology from the GC side.

Unless I have missed it, I have yet to hear anything from the TC side.

When where and how...was a half baked insincere statement used like you are doing so now to further the GC cause of trying to show they regret the shit they did in the past. Not good enough.

VP, the regret should work both ways.

If its forced or insincere it means nothing, where was it reported? did any international papers pick it up or is it GC fabricated lies.

[Me Ed]

Whilst I too find these types of threads pointless and negative, there is also the fact that there has been an apology from the GC side.

Unless I have missed it, I have yet to hear anything from the TC side.

When where and how...was a half baked insincere statement used like you are doing so now to further the GC cause of trying to show they regret the shit they did in the past. Not good enough.

VP, the regret should work both ways.

If its forced or insincere it means nothing, where was it reported? did any international papers pick it up or is it GC fabricated lies.

Well VP, I'm sure that there were many GCs that were unhappy about Christofias apology and the TCs mearly dismissed it as as forced or insincere.

However, the road to reconciliation is going to be hard and if the TCs refuse to apologise or accept an apology, well what more can one say?

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Whilst I too find these types of threads pointless and negative, there is also the fact that there has been an apology from the GC side.

Unless I have missed it, I have yet to hear anything from the TC side.

When where and how...was a half baked insincere statement used like you are doing so now to further the GC cause of trying to show they regret the shit they did in the past. Not good enough.

VP, the regret should work both ways.

If its forced or insincere it means nothing, where was it reported? did any international papers pick it up or is it GC fabricated lies.

Well VP, I'm sure that there were many GCs that were unhappy about Christofias apology and the TCs mearly dismissed it as as forced or insincere.

However, the road to reconciliation is going to be hard and if the TCs refuse to apologise or accept an apology, well what more can one say?

As you can see from the posts on this forum the 2 sides are further apart than they have ever been, we do not want to apologise nor do we want an a half baked apology from the other side, we all know where we are headed and we all deserve it permanent partition as we have proven time and time again we cannot agree the structure to unite.

[Bananiot]

Piratis knows nothing about the intercommunal conflict that took the lives of so many innocent Greek and Turkish Cypriots. As I said earlier, he is just a zealot, trying to show that only the other side has responsibilities. He cannot be taken for real. If anyone wants to really get an inside of what was happening during those difficult times I suggest a very good book by Costas Sophocleous ISBN 978-9963-8773-1-7. There, in pages 211 - 346, Sophocleous documents in a very precise way all the atrocities committed by both sides. He also writes about how, the prevailing conditions of fanaticism, got the two communities in a tangle, even in places where they were leaving in peace and harmony for centuries. Vasileia, in the Kyrenia district is such an example, where on May 20, 1956, the TC villagers went to a TC wedding but thought, contrary to custom, not to invite their GC neighbours to the wedding because they heard of the "troubles" in Nicosia. The GC's were upset, and the following Monday which was Kataklismos Monday, they went to the beach, like every year for souvla, but retaliating, they did not invite their TC neighbours, like they did every year. There, after they downed a fair amount of booze too, they went back to the village and asked the TC's for an explanation. Scuffles started and about 12 villagers were injured! When things quietened and when the alcohol wore off, the sensible leaders of the two communities put matters right and the two communities went about their business as usual. Stories like this one are fount aplenty in this book and it makes a good read and it is an eye opener but people like Piratis will never read it of course because it will destroy his stereotypes.

For a couple of years now, this person has made it the cause of his life to prove to the forumers that the TC's solely are responsible for the intercommunal troubles that he thinks started in 1958!

[Jerry]

The above are all a myth you have been peddling, the intercommunal trouble started well before 1958, you are a liar Piratis.

You, Viperous Prick are simply just the other side of the fascist coin. While you and your fanatical enemies peddle their pointless hatred there will never be peace in Cyprus

[Piratis]

When VP starts posting Turkish propaganda videos we can all know he run out of arguments.

The same can be said of yours, I have proven beyond a doubt that the troubles between TCs and GCs started well before 1958. You are a liar Piratis.

Sure you started the troubles well before 1958. You started them in 1570 to be exact.

But here we are not talking about "troubles" in general, but about the inter-communal conflict where you targeted innocent GCs, burned down homes and shops and massacred several innocents.