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Who started the inter-communal conflict

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Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 27, 2010 11:23 pm

İts called fighting for survival againt those that want togive your country away and signing your death warrant at the same time.
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 28, 2010 12:08 am

Viewpoint wrote:İts called fighting for survival againt those that want togive your country away and signing your death warrant at the same time.


Massacring innocent people and burning the homes and shops of ordinary Greek Cypriots with the aim to initiate an inter-communal conflict is called "fighting for survival"?

Not only there was no "death warrant" anywhere except in your own imagination, but your actions were aimed at creating an inter-communal conflict, not merely preventing union with Greece.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri May 28, 2010 12:36 am

Which came first eoka or tmt? Your enosis dream was your downfall and why we are divided like your warped
mentality that Cyprus is Greek which will guarantee division continues.
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Postby YFred » Fri May 28, 2010 12:39 am

I don't know how you guys continue to post against Piratis. Just ignore him. He will get the message eventually. He has lost the plot long ago.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri May 28, 2010 1:04 am

YFred wrote:I don't know how you guys continue to post against Piratis. Just ignore him. He will get the message eventually. He has lost the plot long ago.


I second that...Even broken gramaphones have to be discarded sometimes... :twisted:
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Postby Afroasiatis » Fri May 28, 2010 1:49 pm

insan wrote:
When the British colonial regime allowed the activities of political parties in 1941, the AKEL was formed as the legal organ of the Communist Party of Cyprus. Again there were no Turkish Cypriots among its founders.

When AKEL adopted the policy of union with Greece (Enosis) at its second congress at the beginning of 1943, there started some problems for the Turkish Cypriots in their cooperation with the Greek Cypriots, both in the trade union movement and in the political activities We observe here for the first time a division of the working class movement on the ethnic basis.

http://www.erpic.eu/files/Good%20old%20 ... Cyprus.doc


Imo, it explains how inter-communal conflict was unintentionally started by GC left... Since then everything went in perfect correlation with global, regional and local movements, actions etc... such as communism vs capitalism, rising nationalism, super power interests on geo-strategic and geo-politic areas... unforgetable fire of past and ongoing Turco-Greco disputes... armed struggle was all around the world... we weren't the only ones fighting, killing each other for national cause...

However, it is painfull for all humanity to lose their loved ones in an armed conflict... it's better to struggle without arms... though still it's painful especially for a considerable number of Cypriots who live in Cyprus or abroad... They are the ones who socially, psychologically and economically affected by the conflict...

Yeahh... GC left unintentionally started the inter-communal conflict... who knows, maybe they unintentionally could bring an happy end to this conflict... :lol:

No, no, no... Don't you see that whole world is in conflict and... yeah, i'm against the armed struggle but it seems inevitable when tensions get it's highest... Imo; unfortunately... a new world war will bring us all a new fresh begining...


The article of Ahmet Djavit An seems very good, but I don't think that we should go that far to the conclusion that "the inter-communal conflict was unintentionally started by GC left". The elites of both communities were influenced by nationalist ideas much earlier than 43, and they had the means (schools, newspapers, economic dependencies etc) to pass them to the normal people. What we can perhaps blame the Left for, is that it didn't fight enough against this.

AKEL decided on Enosi in 43 having also in mind what was going on in Greece. EAM-ELAS was growing stronger, and it seemed very possible that after liberation from Germans Greece could become a communist country. So, from AKEL's point of view, it seemed preferable to unite with a communist country than being part of British Empire. After 49, as it was sure that Greece wouldn't become communist, the Enosi-movement was already too strong among GC people, so AKEL didn't have much choice.

But anyway, the decision of '43 was a very big mistake. It blocked any chance of a common front of GCs and TCs against colonialism.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 28, 2010 2:06 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
YFred wrote:I don't know how you guys continue to post against Piratis. Just ignore him. He will get the message eventually. He has lost the plot long ago.


I second that...Even broken gramaphones have to be discarded sometimes... :twisted:



Thanks yegen. I see you are trying to make me a redundant toy maker. Piratis will less than happy with you.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri May 28, 2010 4:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
YFred wrote:I don't know how you guys continue to post against Piratis. Just ignore him. He will get the message eventually. He has lost the plot long ago.


I second that...Even broken gramaphones have to be discarded sometimes... :twisted:



Thanks yegen. I see you are trying to make me a redundant toy maker. Piratis will less than happy with you.


The BAsh Partitionist and the Chief fanatical Greek agent provocateur will be less than happy with anyone who dares to question his nonsensical diatribes...When the person in question starts to be happy with you,that is when you should take a good look at yourself... :wink: :lol:
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 28, 2010 7:33 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Which came first eoka or tmt? Your enosis dream was your downfall and why we are divided like your warped
mentality that Cyprus is Greek which will guarantee division continues.


What came first was your first invasion of our island in 1571 in the same way you had earlier done with all other Greek territories.

But here we are not talking about what came first in general, but about who started the inter-communal conflict in particular. EOKA didn't start the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in the way I clearly showed in this thread.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 28, 2010 7:36 pm

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Which came first eoka or tmt? Your enosis dream was your downfall and why we are divided like your warped
mentality that Cyprus is Greek which will guarantee division continues.


What came first was your first invasion of our island in 1571 in the same way you had earlier done with all other Greek territories.

But here we are not talking about what came first in general, but about who started the inter-communal conflict in particular. EOKA didn't start the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in the way I clearly showed in this thread.



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