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Who started the inter-communal conflict

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Postby B25 » Thu May 27, 2010 10:33 am

denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Lit wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Lit wrote:
Bananiot wrote:... where they throw people in wells and drag people from their hospital beds to execute them. No thanks Piratis, I'd rather go and live on the moon than in such a "normal democratic state".


Dont google 'death wells' and Turkey. Oops:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/12/%E2% ... rty-story/

Erhm, my friend, I am only replying to your repetitive rhetoric because, quite frankly, nobody else here cares what you have to say. :lol:

I just wanted to say that Cyprus IS a normal democratic State AND nobody is forcing YOU to stay in the Republic of Cyprus.

Americans have a saying...you don't like it here, well, YOU can get the fuck out. LOL


Is that a threat then? If we dont want bodies in wells, then we ..............
are you crazy? You have just condoned these actions by barbarians. Such cowardly actions should be condemned by all whoever the victims are.

No need to bring the Americans and the Turks into Cyprus.

Nasty man :evil:


Erhmm.

I condemn it ... I CONDEMN IT ... I CONDEMN IT!!

Every other week, Baniot posts the same drivel, the same stories. A new mass grave of GCs can be found tomorrow and Bananiot will have the same ole response. And its no threat to Bananiot...where did i threaten him? But if he doesnt like the RoC...he doesnt have to stay now does he? BTW the next time i catch you down playing how many GCs were raped in Cyprus during the war...ill be the first one to call you out on it. :roll:



Is Bananiot lying?

I am a TC, should I refrain from exposing the wrong-doings of TCs? So far I have not heard TCs call me a traitor but some have come close and become angry. Should I shut up the same way you want Bananiot to shut up? Where is free speech in this. If you think Bananiot has lied, your evidence would be welcome by all.

We are all human and in Cyprus we have proved that we can be nasty to each other.

On the other hand we can also be loving too. :lol:


Deniz, you are missing the point, Banana can expose all our wrong doings, problem is he never exposes those that the TCs have done wrong. He reminds us over and over about wells and hospital beds, but no once does he mention the cold bloodied murders and rapes that your lot committed.

This is what pissis people off. Dare he upset the TCs, that'll be his Saturday coffee mornings up the shitter!

To me he is just a prick who prefers the TCs over his own community, cos you guys can do no wrong in his eyes.



Does he need to expose the Turkish wrong doings? Its all over the place. He points the GC wrongdoings as most forumers were and some are still in denial. (mind you some TCs prefer to sweep these under the carpet too.)


My dear Deniz, why shouldn't he expose them? He is happy to expose his own. Whats worst is that he beats and insults us when we expose them. Why should he do that??

I may regret this, but at least you TCs are in it together, unlike some GC on here who are trying to get one over even on their own.

Bravo!

Regardless of my bouts and shit throwing with the likes of Bir, VP, Yfred and hell even Mr.... NG, in the end I think I could come round to socialise or even meet under the right conditions, but I don't think I could bring myself to do that with Bananiot, to me he is a lost cause and a waste of GC skin.

Have a nice day.
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Postby YFred » Thu May 27, 2010 10:53 am

B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Lit wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Lit wrote:
Bananiot wrote:... where they throw people in wells and drag people from their hospital beds to execute them. No thanks Piratis, I'd rather go and live on the moon than in such a "normal democratic state".


Dont google 'death wells' and Turkey. Oops:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/12/%E2% ... rty-story/

Erhm, my friend, I am only replying to your repetitive rhetoric because, quite frankly, nobody else here cares what you have to say. :lol:

I just wanted to say that Cyprus IS a normal democratic State AND nobody is forcing YOU to stay in the Republic of Cyprus.

Americans have a saying...you don't like it here, well, YOU can get the fuck out. LOL


Is that a threat then? If we dont want bodies in wells, then we ..............
are you crazy? You have just condoned these actions by barbarians. Such cowardly actions should be condemned by all whoever the victims are.

No need to bring the Americans and the Turks into Cyprus.

Nasty man :evil:


Erhmm.

I condemn it ... I CONDEMN IT ... I CONDEMN IT!!

Every other week, Baniot posts the same drivel, the same stories. A new mass grave of GCs can be found tomorrow and Bananiot will have the same ole response. And its no threat to Bananiot...where did i threaten him? But if he doesnt like the RoC...he doesnt have to stay now does he? BTW the next time i catch you down playing how many GCs were raped in Cyprus during the war...ill be the first one to call you out on it. :roll:



Is Bananiot lying?

I am a TC, should I refrain from exposing the wrong-doings of TCs? So far I have not heard TCs call me a traitor but some have come close and become angry. Should I shut up the same way you want Bananiot to shut up? Where is free speech in this. If you think Bananiot has lied, your evidence would be welcome by all.

We are all human and in Cyprus we have proved that we can be nasty to each other.

On the other hand we can also be loving too. :lol:


Deniz, you are missing the point, Banana can expose all our wrong doings, problem is he never exposes those that the TCs have done wrong. He reminds us over and over about wells and hospital beds, but no once does he mention the cold bloodied murders and rapes that your lot committed.

This is what pissis people off. Dare he upset the TCs, that'll be his Saturday coffee mornings up the shitter!

To me he is just a prick who prefers the TCs over his own community, cos you guys can do no wrong in his eyes.



Does he need to expose the Turkish wrong doings? Its all over the place. He points the GC wrongdoings as most forumers were and some are still in denial. (mind you some TCs prefer to sweep these under the carpet too.)


My dear Deniz, why shouldn't he expose them? He is happy to expose his own. Whats worst is that he beats and insults us when we expose them. Why should he do that??

I may regret this, but at least you TCs are in it together, unlike some GC on here who are trying to get one over even on their own.

Bravo!

Regardless of my bouts and shit throwing with the likes of Bir, VP, Yfred and hell even Mr.... NG, in the end I think I could come round to socialise or even meet under the right conditions, but I don't think I could bring myself to do that with Bananiot, to me he is a lost cause and a waste of GC skin.

Have a nice day.


You are wrong my friend. No matter what is said, we are who we are and we believe in our cause. Kickapu is the same to us. I would not think twice about meeting him, hell I'll even cook for him and promise not to poison him.

Even GR and DT, as much as they have lied about me, I would still meet them. You just don't appreciate Bananiot's value. We are all so lucky to have such a person on this forum.

There is an old Turkish proverb.

You can throw a piece of gold in the dustbin.
Does it loose its value?
You can shine a piece of tin,
Can it ever become gold?

He does not shy from telling how it is, for both sides where as Kicks only ever attacks TCs and even moderates. Now that's dumb.
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Postby Lit » Thu May 27, 2010 11:03 am

YFred wrote:
B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
B25 wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Lit wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Lit wrote:
Bananiot wrote:... where they throw people in wells and drag people from their hospital beds to execute them. No thanks Piratis, I'd rather go and live on the moon than in such a "normal democratic state".


Dont google 'death wells' and Turkey. Oops:

http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/12/%E2% ... rty-story/

Erhm, my friend, I am only replying to your repetitive rhetoric because, quite frankly, nobody else here cares what you have to say. :lol:

I just wanted to say that Cyprus IS a normal democratic State AND nobody is forcing YOU to stay in the Republic of Cyprus.

Americans have a saying...you don't like it here, well, YOU can get the fuck out. LOL


Is that a threat then? If we dont want bodies in wells, then we ..............
are you crazy? You have just condoned these actions by barbarians. Such cowardly actions should be condemned by all whoever the victims are.

No need to bring the Americans and the Turks into Cyprus.

Nasty man :evil:


Erhmm.

I condemn it ... I CONDEMN IT ... I CONDEMN IT!!

Every other week, Baniot posts the same drivel, the same stories. A new mass grave of GCs can be found tomorrow and Bananiot will have the same ole response. And its no threat to Bananiot...where did i threaten him? But if he doesnt like the RoC...he doesnt have to stay now does he? BTW the next time i catch you down playing how many GCs were raped in Cyprus during the war...ill be the first one to call you out on it. :roll:



Is Bananiot lying?

I am a TC, should I refrain from exposing the wrong-doings of TCs? So far I have not heard TCs call me a traitor but some have come close and become angry. Should I shut up the same way you want Bananiot to shut up? Where is free speech in this. If you think Bananiot has lied, your evidence would be welcome by all.

We are all human and in Cyprus we have proved that we can be nasty to each other.

On the other hand we can also be loving too. :lol:


Deniz, you are missing the point, Banana can expose all our wrong doings, problem is he never exposes those that the TCs have done wrong. He reminds us over and over about wells and hospital beds, but no once does he mention the cold bloodied murders and rapes that your lot committed.

This is what pissis people off. Dare he upset the TCs, that'll be his Saturday coffee mornings up the shitter!

To me he is just a prick who prefers the TCs over his own community, cos you guys can do no wrong in his eyes.



Does he need to expose the Turkish wrong doings? Its all over the place. He points the GC wrongdoings as most forumers were and some are still in denial. (mind you some TCs prefer to sweep these under the carpet too.)


My dear Deniz, why shouldn't he expose them? He is happy to expose his own. Whats worst is that he beats and insults us when we expose them. Why should he do that??

I may regret this, but at least you TCs are in it together, unlike some GC on here who are trying to get one over even on their own.

Bravo!

Regardless of my bouts and shit throwing with the likes of Bir, VP, Yfred and hell even Mr.... NG, in the end I think I could come round to socialise or even meet under the right conditions, but I don't think I could bring myself to do that with Bananiot, to me he is a lost cause and a waste of GC skin.

Have a nice day.


You are wrong my friend. No matter what is said, we are who we are and we believe in our cause. Kickapu is the same to us. I would not


No. Please. Kikapu is the same to US. Those who honor the RoC and its territorial integrity. Kiks wants true unity, that is why he gets along so well with GC members.
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Postby insan » Thu May 27, 2010 10:25 pm

When the British colonial regime allowed the activities of political parties in 1941, the AKEL was formed as the legal organ of the Communist Party of Cyprus. Again there were no Turkish Cypriots among its founders.

When AKEL adopted the policy of union with Greece (Enosis) at its second congress at the beginning of 1943, there started some problems for the Turkish Cypriots in their cooperation with the Greek Cypriots, both in the trade union movement and in the political activities We observe here for the first time a division of the working class movement on the ethnic basis.

http://www.erpic.eu/files/Good%20old%20 ... Cyprus.doc


Imo, it explains how inter-communal conflict was unintentionally started by GC left... Since then everything went in perfect correlation with global, regional and local movements, actions etc... such as communism vs capitalism, rising nationalism, super power interests on geo-strategic and geo-politic areas... unforgetable fire of past and ongoing Turco-Greco disputes... armed struggle was all around the world... we weren't the only ones fighting, killing each other for national cause...

However, it is painfull for all humanity to lose their loved ones in an armed conflict... it's better to struggle without arms... though still it's painful especially for a considerable number of Cypriots who live in Cyprus or abroad... They are the ones who socially, psychologically and economically affected by the conflict...

Yeahh... GC left unintentionally started the inter-communal conflict... who knows, maybe they unintentionally could bring an happy end to this conflict... :lol:

No, no, no... Don't you see that whole world is in conflict and... yeah, i'm against the armed struggle but it seems inevitable when tensions get it's highest... Imo; unfortunately... a new world war will bring us all a new fresh begining...
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Postby Piratis » Thu May 27, 2010 10:39 pm

GC left unintentionally started the inter-communal conflict


Who is and who is not a founding member of a party is not a conflict.

Inter-communal conflict is the massacres and the riots burning down homes and shops of innocent people just because of the ethnic group they belong.

This conflict was intentionally started by Turkey, who called on TCs with radio broadcasts to act in the above criminal way indiscriminately against the ordinary GC population with the aim to start the inter-communal conflict. The Turks wanted to start this conflict so they could later use the results of this conflict as an excuse for their plan for partition. And this exactly what they did and what they continue doing.

Even today the Turks are trying to excuse their invasion, their occupation, the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people and their demands for some separate Turkish state on land stolen from us by using the inter-communal conflict as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan and it served the aim of partition. Nothing more clear than this.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 27, 2010 10:42 pm

Piratis wrote:
GC left unintentionally started the inter-communal conflict


Who is and who is not a founding member of a party is not a conflict.

Inter-communal conflict is the massacres and the riots burning down homes and shops of innocent people just because of the ethnic group they belong.

This conflict was intentionally started by Turkey, who called on TCs with radio broadcasts to act in the above criminal way indiscriminately against the ordinary GC population with the aim to start the inter-communal conflict. The Turks wanted to start this conflict so they could later use the results of this conflict as an excuse for their plan for partition. And this exactly what they did and what they continue doing.

Even today the Turks are trying to excuse their invasion, their occupation, the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people and their demands for some separate Turkish state on land stolen from us by using the inter-communal conflict as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan and it served the aim of partition. Nothing more clear than this.




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Postby Piratis » Thu May 27, 2010 10:47 pm

Bananiot wrote:... where they throw people in wells and drag people from their hospital beds to execute them. No thanks Piratis, I'd rather go and live on the moon than in such a "normal democratic state".


What you describe is not a "normal democratic state" but an abnormal undemocratic situation created as a result of the conflict that the Turks started in 1958 and the racist constitution imposed on Cyprus in 1960 which was anything but democratic.

After 1974 the free part of Cyprus was allowed to function as a normal democratic country. In just a few decades Cyprus was transformed from a poor colony into a modern democracy with standards approaching those of western Europe.
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Postby insan » Thu May 27, 2010 10:52 pm

Piratis wrote:
GC left unintentionally started the inter-communal conflict


Who is and who is not a founding member of a party is not a conflict.

Inter-communal conflict is the massacres and the riots burning down homes and shops of innocent people just because of the ethnic group they belong.

This conflict was intentionally started by Turkey, who called on TCs with radio broadcasts to act in the above criminal way indiscriminately against the ordinary GC population with the aim to start the inter-communal conflict. The Turks wanted to start this conflict so they could later use the results of this conflict as an excuse for their plan for partition. And this exactly what they did and what they continue doing.

Even today the Turks are trying to excuse their invasion, their occupation, the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people and their demands for some separate Turkish state on land stolen from us by using the inter-communal conflict as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan and it served the aim of partition. Nothing more clear than this.


When AKEL adopted the policy of union with Greece (Enosis) at its second congress at the beginning of 1943, there started some problems for the Turkish Cypriots in their cooperation with the Greek Cypriots, both in the trade union movement and in the political activities We observe here for the first time a division of the working class movement on the ethnic basis.


You really sound like a broken record Piro! :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 27, 2010 11:08 pm

Piratis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:... where they throw people in wells and drag people from their hospital beds to execute them. No thanks Piratis, I'd rather go and live on the moon than in such a "normal democratic state".


What you describe is not a "normal democratic state" but an abnormal undemocratic situation created as a result of the conflict that the Turks started in 1958 and the racist constitution imposed on Cyprus in 1960 which was anything but democratic.

After 1974 the free part of Cyprus was allowed to function as a normal democratic country. In just a few decades Cyprus was transformed from a poor colony into a modern democracy with standards approaching those of western Europe.




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Postby Piratis » Thu May 27, 2010 11:11 pm

insan wrote:
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GC left unintentionally started the inter-communal conflict


Who is and who is not a founding member of a party is not a conflict.

Inter-communal conflict is the massacres and the riots burning down homes and shops of innocent people just because of the ethnic group they belong.

This conflict was intentionally started by Turkey, who called on TCs with radio broadcasts to act in the above criminal way indiscriminately against the ordinary GC population with the aim to start the inter-communal conflict. The Turks wanted to start this conflict so they could later use the results of this conflict as an excuse for their plan for partition. And this exactly what they did and what they continue doing.

Even today the Turks are trying to excuse their invasion, their occupation, the ethnic cleansing of 100s of thousands of innocent people and their demands for some separate Turkish state on land stolen from us by using the inter-communal conflict as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan and it served the aim of partition. Nothing more clear than this.


When AKEL adopted the policy of union with Greece (Enosis) at its second congress at the beginning of 1943, there started some problems for the Turkish Cypriots in their cooperation with the Greek Cypriots, both in the trade union movement and in the political activities We observe here for the first time a division of the working class movement on the ethnic basis.


You really sound like a broken record Piro! :lol:


Where do you see the conflict in that? Just a party adopting a legitimate option for the de-colonization of Cyprus.

The conflict was started by those who could not respect the democratic choice of the Cypriot people and who wanted to impose their own by force.
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