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[YFred]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

[Piratis]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

Why would EOKA want to polarize the two communities?

This polarization served only the Turkish plans for partition. EOKA was fighting against the Colonialists and they had nothing to gain from antagonizing your or any other minority.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan. The evidence talk for themselves. Broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey calling TCs to murder GCs and start a war against us. It really couldn't be any more clear than this.

Mr. F. Noel-Baker asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what steps the Government of Cyprus will take to prevent the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd: Her Majesty's Government have made the strongest representations to the Turkish Government about the tone and content of recent broadcasts and newspaper articles The Cyprus Press censor has on one occasion prevented the circulation of Turkish newspapers and will do so again whenever necessary.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

[YFred]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

Why would EOKA want to polarize the two communities?

This polarization served only the Turkish plans for partition. EOKA was fighting against the Colonialists and they had nothing to gain from antagonizing your or any other minority.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan. The evidence talk for themselves. Broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey calling TCs to murder GCs and start a war against us. It really couldn't be any more clear than this.

Mr. F. Noel-Baker asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what steps the Government of Cyprus will take to prevent the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd: Her Majesty's Government have made the strongest representations to the Turkish Government about the tone and content of recent broadcasts and newspaper articles The Cyprus Press censor has on one occasion prevented the circulation of Turkish newspapers and will do so again whenever necessary.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

It's a human condition. Ask a GC to kill his TC friend to see if they do. It is much easier to kill people if they are no longer friends.

If your reasoning is right, then why were eoka driving TCs from their homes. Who were the untouchables who went around killing innocent farmers with impunity that TPapa admitted to? Why did they do that?

Piratis, you a real disappointment for an educated person. You should know better. Have you apologised to Tim yet? And I mean a proper unreserved apology?

[denizaksulu]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

Hey asshole, the attacks were initiated by the TCs on the 7th of June. How about if we killed each and every TC that took part in those riots or even dared to hold some stick in the range of 10 miles around our properties? Would that be fair punishment for those TCs? In the video I posted you can see TCs attacking GC properties. Is the death penalty the right punishment for those shown on that video?

But GCs did not react in this way. Their response was in fact very mild in comparison to the TC aggression. But then you choose to escalate the conflict and you committed the first massacre of the inter-communal conflict.

You support and excuse the murder of innocent people and that is what is sick my friend.

I dont support any murders whateever reason you sick bastard. Where do you think this argument will get you you arse hole.

You had a right to self determination , fine, we had the right to survive as Turkish Cypriot on the island of our for bearers you arsehole. Get used to it and dont bring such useless arguments up again you arsehole.

NOW FUCK OFF. (sorry Oracle)

[Piratis]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

Why would EOKA want to polarize the two communities?

This polarization served only the Turkish plans for partition. EOKA was fighting against the Colonialists and they had nothing to gain from antagonizing your or any other minority.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan. The evidence talk for themselves. Broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey calling TCs to murder GCs and start a war against us. It really couldn't be any more clear than this.

Mr. F. Noel-Baker asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what steps the Government of Cyprus will take to prevent the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd: Her Majesty's Government have made the strongest representations to the Turkish Government about the tone and content of recent broadcasts and newspaper articles The Cyprus Press censor has on one occasion prevented the circulation of Turkish newspapers and will do so again whenever necessary.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

It's a human condition. Ask a GC to kill his TC friend to see if they do. It is much easier to kill people if they are no longer friends.

If your reasoning is right, then why were eoka driving TCs from their homes. Who were the untouchables who went around killing innocent farmers with impunity that TPapa admitted to? Why did they do that?

Piratis, you a real disappointment for an educated person. You should know better. Have you apologised to Tim yet? And I mean a proper unreserved apology?

YFred, you are not in the position to judge my education level.

Here we are talking about who initiated the conflict and whose interests such conflict served. It has been established that it is the TCs who initiated the conflict and it is obvious that this conflict served the plans for partition.

The events you are talking about, even if true, (you didn't provide any evidence) would have happened in the middle of the conflict and they were not the events that initiated the conflict in 1958.

Of course the TCs also had casualties during the conflict they started against us. Having some casualties themselves was after all part of the plan, since this is what would be used as an excuse for their partition demands.

Isn't this what you do even today, using the conflict you started against us as an excuse for demanding partition? If there was no conflict and you had no casualties then you wouldn't even have this lame excuse.

You needed the conflict and you needed to also have some casualties from it in order to excuse your partition demands. If during the conflict only GCs died then this conflict would be useless to you as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the Turkish partition plan, and it is about time to recognize this obvious fact.

[YFred]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

Why would EOKA want to polarize the two communities?

This polarization served only the Turkish plans for partition. EOKA was fighting against the Colonialists and they had nothing to gain from antagonizing your or any other minority.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan. The evidence talk for themselves. Broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey calling TCs to murder GCs and start a war against us. It really couldn't be any more clear than this.

Mr. F. Noel-Baker asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what steps the Government of Cyprus will take to prevent the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd: Her Majesty's Government have made the strongest representations to the Turkish Government about the tone and content of recent broadcasts and newspaper articles The Cyprus Press censor has on one occasion prevented the circulation of Turkish newspapers and will do so again whenever necessary.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

It's a human condition. Ask a GC to kill his TC friend to see if they do. It is much easier to kill people if they are no longer friends.

If your reasoning is right, then why were eoka driving TCs from their homes. Who were the untouchables who went around killing innocent farmers with impunity that TPapa admitted to? Why did they do that?

Piratis, you a real disappointment for an educated person. You should know better. Have you apologised to Tim yet? And I mean a proper unreserved apology?

YFred, you are not in the position to judge my education level.

Here we are talking about who initiated the conflict and whose interests such conflict served. It has been established that it is the TCs who initiated the conflict and it is obvious that this conflict served the plans for partition.

The events you are talking about, even if true, (you didn't provide any evidence) would have happened in the middle of the conflict and they were not the events that initiated the conflict in 1958.

Of course the TCs also had casualties during the conflict they started against us. Having some casualties themselves was after all part of the plan, since this is what would be used as an excuse for their partition demands.

Isn't this what you do even today, using the conflict you started against us as an excuse for demanding partition? If there was no conflict and you had no casualties then you wouldn't even have this lame excuse.

You needed the conflict and you needed to also have some casualties from it in order to excuse your partition demands. If during the conflict only GCs died then this conflict would be useless to you as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the Turkish partition plan, and it is about time to recognize this obvious fact.

I spent 11 years in Lurucina surrounded by eoka from 6 different villages. It was obvious to anybody in the enclaves that it could not continue. We did not see the invasion as partition at all but bringing all the TCs together so they can be defended from your eoka.

You can look at it any way you like, but what is this obsession with links. Is there no other life outside of the internet. Does our experience not count unless there is a link to it.

Are you actually denying that there were untouchables in cyprus killing innocent people on both sides?
What are you? are you actually a real human? I don't think so.

[Piratis]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

Hey asshole, the attacks were initiated by the TCs on the 7th of June. How about if we killed each and every TC that took part in those riots or even dared to hold some stick in the range of 10 miles around our properties? Would that be fair punishment for those TCs? In the video I posted you can see TCs attacking GC properties. Is the death penalty the right punishment for those shown on that video?

But GCs did not react in this way. Their response was in fact very mild in comparison to the TC aggression. But then you choose to escalate the conflict and you committed the first massacre of the inter-communal conflict.

You support and excuse the murder of innocent people and that is what is sick my friend.

I dont support any murders whateever reason you sick bastard. Where do you think this argument will get you you arse hole.

You had a right to self determination , fine, we had the right to survive as Turkish Cypriot on the island of our for bearers you arsehole. Get used to it and dont bring such useless arguments up again you arsehole.

NOW FUCK OFF. (sorry Oracle)

You excused the murders of those people in your previous post. It would be better to admit you were wrong instead of trying to deny a fact which is recorded in your post.

Nobody threatened your survival in Cyprus. In the 50s we had nothing against your minority or any other minority in Cyprus. You became the enemy only after you collaborated with the Colonialists and you attacked us.

Furthermore, how is your survival in Cyprus related with burning the shops and homes of GCs and massacring innocents???

[denizaksulu]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

Hey asshole, the attacks were initiated by the TCs on the 7th of June. How about if we killed each and every TC that took part in those riots or even dared to hold some stick in the range of 10 miles around our properties? Would that be fair punishment for those TCs? In the video I posted you can see TCs attacking GC properties. Is the death penalty the right punishment for those shown on that video?

But GCs did not react in this way. Their response was in fact very mild in comparison to the TC aggression. But then you choose to escalate the conflict and you committed the first massacre of the inter-communal conflict.

You support and excuse the murder of innocent people and that is what is sick my friend.

I dont support any murders whateever reason you sick bastard. Where do you think this argument will get you you arse hole.

You had a right to self determination , fine, we had the right to survive as Turkish Cypriot on the island of our for bearers you arsehole. Get used to it and dont bring such useless arguments up again you arsehole.

NOW FUCK OFF. (sorry Oracle)

You excused the murders of those people in your previous post. It would be better to admit you were wrong instead of trying to deny a fact which is recorded in your post.

Nobody threatened your survival in Cyprus. In the 50s we had nothing against your minority or any other minority in Cyprus. You became the enemy only after you collaborated with the Colonialists and you attacked us.

Furthermore, how is your survival in Cyprus related with burning the shops and homes of GCs and massacring innocents???

That was a natural reaction against your Enosis dreams you thick head. Other islands may have taken their own Enosis lying down but not the TCs . They did not want Enosis, you did. You should have been content to live in peace, but no. Enosis drove you crazy.

[Piratis]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

Why would EOKA want to polarize the two communities?

This polarization served only the Turkish plans for partition. EOKA was fighting against the Colonialists and they had nothing to gain from antagonizing your or any other minority.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan. The evidence talk for themselves. Broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey calling TCs to murder GCs and start a war against us. It really couldn't be any more clear than this.

Mr. F. Noel-Baker asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what steps the Government of Cyprus will take to prevent the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd: Her Majesty's Government have made the strongest representations to the Turkish Government about the tone and content of recent broadcasts and newspaper articles The Cyprus Press censor has on one occasion prevented the circulation of Turkish newspapers and will do so again whenever necessary.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

It's a human condition. Ask a GC to kill his TC friend to see if they do. It is much easier to kill people if they are no longer friends.

If your reasoning is right, then why were eoka driving TCs from their homes. Who were the untouchables who went around killing innocent farmers with impunity that TPapa admitted to? Why did they do that?

Piratis, you a real disappointment for an educated person. You should know better. Have you apologised to Tim yet? And I mean a proper unreserved apology?

YFred, you are not in the position to judge my education level.

Here we are talking about who initiated the conflict and whose interests such conflict served. It has been established that it is the TCs who initiated the conflict and it is obvious that this conflict served the plans for partition.

The events you are talking about, even if true, (you didn't provide any evidence) would have happened in the middle of the conflict and they were not the events that initiated the conflict in 1958.

Of course the TCs also had casualties during the conflict they started against us. Having some casualties themselves was after all part of the plan, since this is what would be used as an excuse for their partition demands.

Isn't this what you do even today, using the conflict you started against us as an excuse for demanding partition? If there was no conflict and you had no casualties then you wouldn't even have this lame excuse.

You needed the conflict and you needed to also have some casualties from it in order to excuse your partition demands. If during the conflict only GCs died then this conflict would be useless to you as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the Turkish partition plan, and it is about time to recognize this obvious fact.

I spent 11 years in Lurucina surrounded by eoka from 6 different villages. It was obvious to anybody in the enclaves that it could not continue. We did not see the invasion as partition at all but bringing all the TCs together so they can be defended from your eoka.

You can look at it any way you like, but what is this obsession with links. Is there no other life outside of the internet. Does our experience not count unless there is a link to it.

Are you actually denying that there were untouchables in cyprus killing innocent people on both sides?
What are you? are you actually a real human? I don't think so.

YFred, even if the claims that you provide no support for indeed happened, they didn't happen in 1958, right? You are talking about the events that happened during the inter-communal conflict and not how the conflict was initiated.

Do you admit that the conflict was initiated by the TCs? Yes or No? If no, do you have anything to say to refute this fact?

Beyond that, during the conflict which TCs started, both sides had casualties and both sides suffered. I never denied this and I never excused our actions during the conflict. After all having some casualties of your own was part of your partition plan. If only GCs were killed and only GCs suffered during that conflict then your plan wouldn't work out.

[YFred]

Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.

First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.

You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!

TMT must have been told the history of these released people although there is no doubt that both eoka and tmt killed innocent people to polarise the two communities both from their own community and from each other's.

Why would EOKA want to polarize the two communities?

This polarization served only the Turkish plans for partition. EOKA was fighting against the Colonialists and they had nothing to gain from antagonizing your or any other minority.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the partition plan. The evidence talk for themselves. Broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey calling TCs to murder GCs and start a war against us. It really couldn't be any more clear than this.

Mr. F. Noel-Baker asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what steps the Government of Cyprus will take to prevent the incitement to murder and civil war of the Turkish Cypriot population by means of radio broadcasts and newspapers from Turkey.

Mr. Lennox-Boyd: Her Majesty's Government have made the strongest representations to the Turkish Government about the tone and content of recent broadcasts and newspaper articles The Cyprus Press censor has on one occasion prevented the circulation of Turkish newspapers and will do so again whenever necessary.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

It's a human condition. Ask a GC to kill his TC friend to see if they do. It is much easier to kill people if they are no longer friends.

If your reasoning is right, then why were eoka driving TCs from their homes. Who were the untouchables who went around killing innocent farmers with impunity that TPapa admitted to? Why did they do that?

Piratis, you a real disappointment for an educated person. You should know better. Have you apologised to Tim yet? And I mean a proper unreserved apology?

YFred, you are not in the position to judge my education level.

Here we are talking about who initiated the conflict and whose interests such conflict served. It has been established that it is the TCs who initiated the conflict and it is obvious that this conflict served the plans for partition.

The events you are talking about, even if true, (you didn't provide any evidence) would have happened in the middle of the conflict and they were not the events that initiated the conflict in 1958.

Of course the TCs also had casualties during the conflict they started against us. Having some casualties themselves was after all part of the plan, since this is what would be used as an excuse for their partition demands.

Isn't this what you do even today, using the conflict you started against us as an excuse for demanding partition? If there was no conflict and you had no casualties then you wouldn't even have this lame excuse.

You needed the conflict and you needed to also have some casualties from it in order to excuse your partition demands. If during the conflict only GCs died then this conflict would be useless to you as an excuse.

The inter-communal conflict was part of the Turkish partition plan, and it is about time to recognize this obvious fact.

I spent 11 years in Lurucina surrounded by eoka from 6 different villages. It was obvious to anybody in the enclaves that it could not continue. We did not see the invasion as partition at all but bringing all the TCs together so they can be defended from your eoka.

You can look at it any way you like, but what is this obsession with links. Is there no other life outside of the internet. Does our experience not count unless there is a link to it.

Are you actually denying that there were untouchables in cyprus killing innocent people on both sides?
What are you? are you actually a real human? I don't think so.

YFred, even if the claims that you provide no support for indeed happened, they didn't happen in 1958, right? You are talking about the events that happened during the inter-communal conflict and not how the conflict was initiated.

Do you admit that the conflict was initiated by the TCs? Yes or No? If no, do you have anything to say to refute this fact?

Beyond that, during the conflict which TCs started, both sides had casualties and both sides suffered. I never denied this and I never excused our actions during the conflict. After all having some casualties of your own was part of your partition plan. If only GCs were killed and only GCs suffered during that conflict then your plan wouldn't work out.

It does not fill us with confidence when you describe the events of 63 and beyond as intercommunal conflict. When 80% of the population started to kick the shit out of 20%.

Strange the same tactic was used by the west when they descibed the events of Yougoslavia, while you friens serbs were kicking the hell out of the bosnians with the help of your hero the greeks I may add.

Intercomunal conflict indeed. Piratis get a life. Have you apologised yet?