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[YFred]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

No there is some water in it. Try the desert. That is a good comparison.

[DTA]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

[Piratis]

DTA, I have already showed that the conflict started in the 50s by the TCs. The topic of this thread is "Who started the inter-communal conflict".

So your usual propaganda practices do not work here. What happened in the 60s was a direct result of the events in the 50s.

TCs attacked GCs and then GCs attacked TC back. Are you suggesting that it was fine for TCs to start the conflict by massacring GCs and burning down GC homes and shops, but not OK for GCs to respond in kind?

[YFred]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

How many other Presidents are there in the world who win an election and immediately set about to destroy the country. In my book it’s is called treason. They should have been given a fair trial and then hung.

[Piratis]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

So you want to erase your crimes of the 50s and pretend that nothing happened and move to the 60s?

Funny how you always claim that the Cyprus problem didn't start in 74, but when you are shown that the problem didn't start in 63 either you insist on erasing the parts of history that do not suit your propaganda.

The Cyprus problem as it exists today started in 1974 with the illegal invasion and occupation of Cyprus by Turkey.

The inter-communal conflict was started by the TCs in the 50s.

The conflict between Greeks and Turks in Cyprus in general, was started by the Turks in 1570.

[Oracle]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

How many other Presidents are there in the world who win an election and immediately set about to destroy the country. In my book it’s is called treason. They should have been given a fair trial and then hung.

Why would making it a fair and democratic constitution amount to "set about to destroy the country"? Who did the country suit as it was?

Can you be honest for once?

[Piratis]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

How many other Presidents are there in the world who win an election and immediately set about to destroy the country. In my book it’s is called treason. They should have been given a fair trial and then hung.

A ton of presidents are elected and they immediately propose democratic reforms. Treason is when you get guns and attack the democratically elected president of a country because you don't agree with him.

[YFred]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

How many other Presidents are there in the world who win an election and immediately set about to destroy the country. In my book it’s is called treason. They should have been given a fair trial and then hung.

A ton of presidents are elected and they immediately propose democratic reforms. Treason is when you get guns and attack the democratically elected president of a country because you don't agree with him.

Reform yes, but you must agree that it must be done within the constitution, but never to destroy the republic and gift it to another. Read the Akritas plan. Clear as daylight what the real intention was all along.

Give the impression that the constitution was not fair? "My left foot" as my friend with one left foot used to say.

[denizaksulu]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

So you want to erase your crimes of the 50s and pretend that nothing happened and move to the 60s?

Funny how you always claim that the Cyprus problem didn't start in 74, but when you are shown that the problem didn't start in 63 either you insist on erasing the parts of history that do not suit your propaganda.

The Cyprus problem as it exists today started in 1974 with the illegal invasion and occupation of Cyprus by Turkey.

The inter-communal conflict was started by the TCs in the 50s.

The conflict between Greeks and Turks in Cyprus in general, was started by the Turks in 1570.

Fancy mentioning 1570:

The forum is indebted to GR for the above links where the following was stated. To your dismay the source is NOT T/TC.


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Oracle’s intro caught me unprepared! Don’t let it happen to you…


“A Reading in the History of the Maronites of Cyprus From the Eighth Century to the Beginning of British Rule”

http://www.papalvisit.org.cy/upload/201 ... -29299.pdf

“The Maronite Community of Cyprus”

http://www.maronitesofcyprus.com/cgibin ... -V=history



Thanks for the above GR. I assume they are credible evidence;

I love this bit;

"Many Greek Orthodox fled Cyprus and those who stayed did nothing to participate in the defense of the island against the Ottomans, but instead welcomed with open arms their conquest of 1571 (McGuire 1967: 568-569; Palmieri 1905: cols. 2435-2436).
During this era, the Maronites must have sustained many natural and man-".

I do not deny that the numbers of Maronites diminished during the Ottoman period, but I am still studying your links. We know of the Ottoman depradations now we know about the Latin Catholic and Byzantine depredations.

Terrible innit?

Thanks again.

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[YFred]

DTA, have you tried squeezing water out of a pebble? its easier!!

I know but we can only try cant we, how are things with you? and it is important that those reading this thread see a balanced and true representation of what happened in cyprus.

Perhaps we should start threads called:

1) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who ruined it"

2) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, still wanted to join it to another nation state"

3) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who started the violence"

4) "after cyprus became independent for the first time in its history, who broke the constitution"

etc etc etc

How many other Presidents are there in the world who win an election and immediately set about to destroy the country. In my book it’s is called treason. They should have been given a fair trial and then hung.

Why would making it a fair and democratic constitution amount to "set about to destroy the country"? Who did the country suit as it was?

Can you be honest for once?

Are you serious, have you read the Akritas plan with an impartial mind to see what it's intentions were. I am always honets unless I am takin the piss and you should when I do. Please be honest once yourself.