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Who started the inter-communal conflict

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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 10:01 am

Bananiot wrote:Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.


First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".


http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 10:08 am

By the way, the British had tried to implement their divide and rule plans a few years earlier, when they hired TC missionaries to fight against EOKA. It seems that their initial plan didn't work as well as they expected, so they moved to plan B in collaboration with Turkey with full scale TC riots against the innocent unarmed GC population. This time their plan worked.
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Postby Jerry » Sat May 22, 2010 10:20 am

Absolutely no point to this thread. How on earth are we going to solve the Cyprus problem when the forum facsists insist on perpetuating the hatred of the past by gratuitously starting threads like this. Both sides were used and manipulated by forces outside the island during the last century - that is the root cause, not the actions of a few Cypriots. How can we ever expect Turkey to leave Cyprus when we keep telling them how much we hate the Turkish Cypriots. Threads like this, and the attitudes of arseholes who support them, will keep the metmechik here forever.
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Postby B25 » Sat May 22, 2010 10:30 am

Jerry wrote:Absolutely no point to this thread. How on earth are we going to solve the Cyprus problem when the forum facsists insist on perpetuating the hatred of the past by gratuitously starting threads like this. Both sides were used and manipulated by forces outside the island during the last century - that is the root cause, not the actions of a few Cypriots. How can we ever expect Turkey to leave Cyprus when we keep telling them how much we hate the Turkish Cypriots. Threads like this, and the attitudes of arseholes who support them, will keep the metmechik here forever.


What do you suggest Jerry, we bow to their every request, bend on demand, or just shut up and do as we are told because the turks want it all their way?

Come on do tell us, how to be good little boys and girls and behave because the big bad turk is not happy with us.

They came to Cyprus FFS, they stole, pillaged, raped, and murdered us. And you and the likes of you want us to just STFU and let them get on with it??

I thought you were one of the good guys, you are starting to sound like Banana every day.

What pissis me off the most that all the TCs all pull in the same direction, bravo to them, on this issue where as the F GCs are all trying to score brownie points against their own.

Arseholes, we should be unitied in this struggle not F our fellow GC, we have others we need to be dealing with.

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Postby denizaksulu » Sat May 22, 2010 10:39 am

Piratis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.


First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".


http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.



You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 10:46 am

Jerry wrote:Absolutely no point to this thread. How on earth are we going to solve the Cyprus problem when the forum facsists insist on perpetuating the hatred of the past by gratuitously starting threads like this. Both sides were used and manipulated by forces outside the island during the last century - that is the root cause, not the actions of a few Cypriots. How can we ever expect Turkey to leave Cyprus when we keep telling them how much we hate the Turkish Cypriots. Threads like this, and the attitudes of arseholes who support them, will keep the metmechik here forever.


The fascists are those who occupy our island. Notice how in every thread in this forum the TCs are trying to distort history and blame on us the inter-communal conflict trying in this way to excuse their illegal occupation.

This thread is made to set the record straight about who started the inter-communal conflict once and for all. It is all about historical facts and nothing about hate. From now on whenever somebody lies and tries to blame the inter-communal conflict on GCs all we have to do is to refer them to this thread.

I will be more than happy to concentrate on the future. I do not want to punish anybody for what happened in the past and I a more than willing to forgive the TCs and the Turks for both the invasion of 1974 as well as the inter-communal conflict, as long as they accept that such things can not be repeated again.

In fact in this very thread I recognized that TCs were merely uneducated farmers who have been manipulated and turned against the GCs in order to serve the interests of Turkey and the UK. The TCs were not the masterminds of the conflict, but they were the pawns. Unfortunately they continue to be the pawns of Turkey today, and this is why the Cyprus Problem can not be solved since Turkey will not allow the TCs to accept a solution that will cause Turkey to lose her control over Cyprus.
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 10:57 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Shut up Lit, quick to draw conclusions from the writings of a couple of forumers. Only a moron does this. The Cyprus issue is more serious than you can ever imagine.

Piratis, let us get to the truth. The TMT wanted to incite hatred but they could only achieve this if they found a willing partner. Our nationalist duly obliged by targeting the ordinary, vulnerable Turkish Cypriots who worked with Greek Cypriots. They worked hand in hand with TMT to destroy this country. Simply we lost out and we are crying our hearts out now. Had we been the successful part we would hear the other side weep, from Anatolia.

Now Piratis, tell us how these Kondemenos people murdered by TMT, were defending their houses in Kondemenos. The riots were taking place in Nicosia, the murdered people were far away from their houses they were supposed to defend. Please clarify.


First of all those 8 people, the first massacre, where not murdered by TMT. It seems you didn't read the links I provided:

Mr. K. Robinson asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many Greek Cypriots have been killed in Cyprus in the course of communal rioting since the beginning of May; and how many are thought to have been murdered by Turkish-Cypriot terrorists.

Mr. Profumo: The Answer to the first part of the Question is "twelve" and to the second part "none".


http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

The above is from the 24th of June. It includes the 8 GCs that were massacred on the 12th of june and 4 more that were murdered during the riots since the 7th of June. As you can see from the report those people were not murdered by TMT. TMT just planted the bomb at the Turkish Information Office to give the signal for the riots.

The murders of 1958 were not carried out by TMT but by regular TCs. The TC population was incited to act in this murderous way by broadcasts and newspaper articles from Turkey.
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 617_HOC_12

Similarly, those who reacted to the Turkish aggression those days were the regular GCs who saw their homes and shops being burned down and their lives threatened, without the British police being able (or willing) to protect them.

When the TCs were so easily manipulated and they didn't see the wrong in burning down the shops and homes of innocent people, do you really expect from GCs to be so smart to figure out the whole plan of Turkey and not to react to the destruction of their properties? Both GCs and TCs were in their majority uneducated farmers, don't you think you are asking for too much from them?

It is more than clear that the inter-communal conflict was planned in Turkey as part of their partition plan. Our side had absolutely nothing to gain from a conflict with the Turkish or any other minority.

The Turkish/British plan for the inter-communal conflict was simple: Inside the simpleton TCs to murder and destruction of GC properties by brainwashing them with broadcasts from Turkey, the British police would do very little to stop the rioting and protect the GCs, the GCs would try to protect themselves and possibly retaliate, and soon the inter-communal conflict would be achieved.



You have such a sick mind. These 'murdered' people were not on a picnic when arreseted. As far as the Turkish Cypriot villagers were concerned they were intent on attacking TC villages as reported in your link.
That they were arrested and then set 'free' is another story. The Brits could not even organise a chimpanzees tea party without falling over themselves. You know the truth ful intent of these people who were killed yet you are in denial. Dickhead.!!


Hey asshole, the attacks were initiated by the TCs on the 7th of June. How about if we killed each and every TC that took part in those riots or even dared to hold some stick in the range of 10 miles around our properties? Would that be fair punishment for those TCs? In the video I posted you can see TCs attacking GC properties. Is the death penalty the right punishment for those shown on that video?

But GCs did not react in this way. Their response was in fact very mild in comparison to the TC aggression. But then you choose to escalate the conflict and you committed the first massacre of the inter-communal conflict.

You support and excuse the murder of innocent people and that is what is sick my friend.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 22, 2010 11:02 am

No the GCs are more nasty than that they burnt down TC villages killed TCs and threw them down wells is that what you call mild Piratis? you show the typical GC mrntality of making excuses for your own actions in order to lame others.
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 11:13 am

Viewpoint wrote:No the GCs are more nasty than that they burnt down TC villages killed TCs and threw them down wells is that what you call mild Piratis? you show the typical GC mrntality of making excuses for your own actions in order to lame others.


Really VP? Far more GCs were murdered between 1958 and 1974 but the most important fact is that you initiated the inter-communal conflict because it was part of your partition plan. When did GCs burn down any TC villages? Can you give us facts and dates?

But this is exactly why the TCs started the inter-communal conflict. Their main aim was not to cause casualties to us, their main aim was to force us to react so they would have some casualties themselves, and in this way excuse their partition demands.

Note how Kucuk started to lie right from the beginning about the TC casualties of the conflict that TCs initiated:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... 24_HOC_223

Turkey and the TC leadership wanted so much to have some TC casualties in order to excuse their partition demand, that they couldn't even wait for those casualties to occur during the conflict they initiated!
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Postby YFred » Sat May 22, 2010 11:14 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Piratis wrote:Note how the Turkish plan for partition formed in the 50s is followed to the letter until today. They initiated the inter-communal conflict in order to use it as an excuse for partition and they continue using this same excuse half a century later. The inter-communal conflict was an integral part of their partition plan and it continues to be until today.



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