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[Get Real!]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

[Gasman]

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

Wholly agree with all that.

[Oracle]

Not good enough Piratis, indeed a pathetic and dishonest response.

You Piratis assign responsibilty to individuals for actions they cannot possibly have carried out. When challenged you pretend that the action was taken by a collective 'you' from which the individual is prohibited by you (Piratis) from denying any connection. The individual is damned if s/he does and damned if s/he doesn't.

So let me state it again as an unarguable truth : absolutely nobody living today is responsible for the events of 1570.

Neither am I for any kind of past events since the date I was born was after 74. This doesn't stop Turkey to indiscriminately violate the human rights of all Greek Cypriots and to violate the sovereignty of our country. But of course you have nothing to say about that.

What is pathetic is your attempt to divert the topic of this thread since like every other Turkish propagandist you have nothing to say to disprove the facts I posted here.

Piratis if you were born after 1974 you cannot be held responsible for any events before then. And I have never held you responsible for anything, before or after 1974, except for the words that you author on this forum. And your accusations on this forum are typically wild, dishonest and irresponsible and inflammatory (including the title of this thread).

And yet Turkey occupies 1/3rd of our island indiscriminately violating the human rights of 100s of thousands of innocent people. This doesn't seem to bother you though. On the contrary you try to defend Turkey on every occasion possible. You are a dishonest hypocrite of the worst kind.

We know what Turkey has done to Cyprus, why do you feel the need to repeat it.

Concentrate on asking the Turks who occupy our island why they need to continue to do so, and leave the 'reminders' of how wrong this is to Piratis, who neutralises the arguments to this injustice.

Hey, female forum fascist number one has joined the fray. Reminders and racist rants that you are so expert at do nothing to bring the two sides together so why don't you have another tantrum, piss off and leave the forum for good and take your toy-boy friend Piratis with you.

Another logical argument from Jerry. What a bully ... Thank Gawd you are on the side of the Turks with sexist views like that! I pity your wife if you have one.

What's wrong with Piratis' views that you think only "female fascists" can support them? What are you doing to bring the two sides "together" ... giving the Turks free reign to take the whole of Cyprus?

Piratis has compiled a historiography backed up with evidence. Only fools (aka: Jerry/VP) and self-interested partisans would try and refute this.

[YFred]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

You are such an arshole. Please explain to the Germans, Greeks, Serbs, Greeks, Italians and Japanese how good nationalist are.

[Get Real!]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

You are such an arshole. Please explain to the Germans, Greeks, Serbs, Greeks, Italians and Japanese how good nationalist are.

Now here's a classic example of someone who ASSUMES everything in life!

na•tion•al•ism: Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

[Bananiot]

Mr-from-NG, the book is only in Greek I am afraid, but you are right, it is a most interesting and informative book.

Just to come back to Piratis once again, not in the vain hope of installing some sanity into this person, but for the benefit of all forumers, I would like to stress a simple fact that really shouldn't be needing any stressing. The intercommunal strife did not start just like that, as the late Tommy Cooper would say. It was brewing, long before it started, thanks to the efforts of the sick nationalists of both sides. Here is another example:

On April 23 1956, EOKA members shot a GC policeman next to the Seray in Nicosia. A TC policeman (named Nihat Pacit) went after them and they shot him dead. The perpetrators were arrested on the spot by Turkish Cypriot women, would you believe. You can imagine what followed. The TC mob went on a rampage stoning and setting alight GC shops next to the pandopoleio. This setting went on for the next two days and eventually, the old pandopoleio was left in the hands of the TC's and the GC's turned the ginaikopazaro into a pandopoleio and thus segregation was duly achieved to the delight of the nationalists. Two separate pandopoleia as far back as 1956 and some naive forumers still think that separation and partition happened in 1974.

Another event that produced arson attacks and beating in many parts of Cyprus, including Larnaca and Limasol, was the murdering of TC policeman Lisani Ahmed in Polis on May 23 1956. Who were the murderers is not conclusive. It could have been EOKA or even TMT to incite racial hatred. This was a method practiced by both sides during this "preparatory" period of the demise of Cyprus.

[YFred]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

You are such an arshole. Please explain to the Germans, Greeks, Serbs, Greeks, Italians and Japanese how good nationalist are.

Now here's a classic example of someone who ASSUMES everything in life!

na•tion•al•ism: Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

I do know what it means, but please explain to the people I said. Cause they had a very personal experience with nationalists which did not go according to plan. When you think about it, so did the Cypriots. Long live nationalists cuntpson and decuntis.
Here is one such club full of them



Listen to what htye are saying. These are real people.

[Get Real!]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

You are such an arshole. Please explain to the Germans, Greeks, Serbs, Greeks, Italians and Japanese how good nationalist are.

Now here's a classic example of someone who ASSUMES everything in life!

na•tion•al•ism: Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

I do know what it means, but please explain to the people I said. Cause they had a very personal experience with nationalists which did not go according to plan. When you think about it, so did the Cypriots. Long live nationalists cuntpson and decuntis.

The extreme behavior of some of the people/groups you mentioned is NOT nationalism, but expansionist aggression.

[YFred]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

You are such an arshole. Please explain to the Germans, Greeks, Serbs, Greeks, Italians and Japanese how good nationalist are.

Now here's a classic example of someone who ASSUMES everything in life!

na•tion•al•ism: Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

I do know what it means, but please explain to the people I said. Cause they had a very personal experience with nationalists which did not go according to plan. When you think about it, so did the Cypriots. Long live nationalists cuntpson and decuntis.

The extreme behavior of some of the people/groups you mentioned is NOT nationalism, but expansionist aggression.

Human nature dear boy. It starts as nationalist and as sure as day turns to night, it turns to expansionist. There is no nationalist on earth that has no expansionist aspirations. It is just hidden until they feel it is achievable then it rears its ugly had not that dissimilar to yours.

[Get Real!]

So the real answer to the question "Who started the inter-communal conflict?", is nationalism. Aided by colonialists of course.

Nationalism is actually a good thing in any country but unfortunately that’s NOT what happened in Cyprus, as Greek and Turkish Nationalisms DO NOT equate to Cypriot Nationalism!

There is a simple word to describe foreign nationalisms in countries… its called TREASON!

You are such an arshole. Please explain to the Germans, Greeks, Serbs, Greeks, Italians and Japanese how good nationalist are.

Now here's a classic example of someone who ASSUMES everything in life!

na•tion•al•ism: Loyalty and devotion to a nation; especially : a sense of national consciousness exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

I do know what it means, but please explain to the people I said. Cause they had a very personal experience with nationalists which did not go according to plan. When you think about it, so did the Cypriots. Long live nationalists cuntpson and decuntis.

The extreme behavior of some of the people/groups you mentioned is NOT nationalism, but expansionist aggression.

Human nature dear boy. It starts as nationalist and as sure as day turns to night, it turns to expansionist. There is no nationalist on earth that has no expansionist aspirations. It is just hidden until they feel it is achievable then it rears its ugly had not that dissimilar to yours.

We’ve got to be careful not to cloud our minds with the different behavioral patterns…

Examples:

Germany invading Poland is NOT nationalism but expansionism.

Japan invading Indonesia is NOT nationalism but expansionism.

Greek Cypriots yearning for enosis is NOT nationalism but treason.

Turkish Cypriots yearning for taksim is NOT nationalism but treason.

Serbians bombing Muslim Serbs is NOT nationalism but racism.

…and so forth.