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Who started the inter-communal conflict

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 22, 2010 10:30 pm

Piratis wrote:
Mikiko wrote:
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Mikiko wrote:Wouldnt be wiser to write a book so he can address a bigger audience .


Not many are interested to buy a book about the Cyprus Problem Mikiko. But now if anybody ever wonders "Who started the intercommunal conflict in Cyprus?" the right answer will be just a click away:

http://www.google.com/search?q=who+star ... +in+Cyprus


But then again who is interested to read it :wink: When people hear the term Problem will fly away .. :wink: unless they dont have any other problems to deal with.


Some are interested. Otherwise nobody would post here ;)

And those who are interested deserve the truth. Unfortunately our side for the sake of reconciliation only exposes the wrong doings of Turkey and it doesn't say much about the wrong doings of TCs. This gives to the TCs free range to spread their one sided propaganda about the inter-communal conflict. I think it is time to set the record straight.


The truth according to liars like Piratis.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 22, 2010 10:31 pm

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Me Ed wrote:Whilst I too find these types of threads pointless and negative, there is also the fact that there has been an apology from the GC side.

Unless I have missed it, I have yet to hear anything from the TC side.


When where and how...was a half baked insincere statement used like you are doing so now to further the GC cause of trying to show they regret the shit they did in the past. Not good enough.


You are the ones who have most of the blame for what happened in the past and you have the nerve to ask from us to show regret? :lol:


bullshit as its your Gcs who claim your apologised confirming your guilt.


I hope Bir is reading this.

This is how the empathy that he wants from us is used by the Turkish propagandists. And then he expects from us to show even more empathy. This empathy not only is not reciprocated, but on the contrary it is used by the Turkish propagandists to supposedly confirm our guilt :roll:


Insincere empathy is worse than no empathy at all.
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Postby Jerry » Sat May 22, 2010 10:32 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Mikiko wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Mikiko wrote:Wouldnt be wiser to write a book so he can address a bigger audience .


Not many are interested to buy a book about the Cyprus Problem Mikiko. But now if anybody ever wonders "Who started the intercommunal conflict in Cyprus?" the right answer will be just a click away:

http://www.google.com/search?q=who+star ... +in+Cyprus


But then again who is interested to read it :wink: When people hear the term Problem will fly away .. :wink: unless they dont have any other problems to deal with.


Some are interested. Otherwise nobody would post here ;)

And those who are interested deserve the truth. Unfortunately our side for the sake of reconciliation only exposes the wrong doings of Turkey and it doesn't say much about the wrong doings of TCs. This gives to the TCs free range to spread their one sided propaganda about the inter-communal conflict. I think it is time to set the record straight.


The truth according to liars like Piratis.


Even more boring!
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Postby CopperLine » Sat May 22, 2010 10:47 pm

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CopperLine wrote:Not good enough Piratis, indeed a pathetic and dishonest response.

You Piratis assign responsibilty to individuals for actions they cannot possibly have carried out. When challenged you pretend that the action was taken by a collective 'you' from which the individual is prohibited by you (Piratis) from denying any connection. The individual is damned if s/he does and damned if s/he doesn't.

So let me state it again as an unarguable truth : absolutely nobody living today is responsible for the events of 1570.


Neither am I for any kind of past events since the date I was born was after 74. This doesn't stop Turkey to indiscriminately violate the human rights of all Greek Cypriots and to violate the sovereignty of our country. But of course you have nothing to say about that.

What is pathetic is your attempt to divert the topic of this thread since like every other Turkish propagandist you have nothing to say to disprove the facts I posted here.


Piratis if you were born after 1974 you cannot be held responsible for any events before then. And I have never held you responsible for anything, before or after 1974, except for the words that you author on this forum. And your accusations on this forum are typically wild, dishonest and irresponsible and inflammatory (including the title of this thread).


And yet Turkey occupies 1/3rd of our island indiscriminately violating the human rights of 100s of thousands of innocent people. This doesn't seem to bother you though. On the contrary you try to defend Turkey on every occasion possible. You are a dishonest hypocrite of the worst kind.


A tiny bit of logic might be useful here Piratis. Your statement "and yet Turkey occupies 1/3rd of our island..." (finally you acknowledge that it is not just yours but ours as well) is a non sequitur i.e, it does not follow from the previously quoted sentence referring to your wild, dishonest, irresponsible and inflammatory statements. Turkey is occupying that part of the island whether or not you make those statements.

You will not find me defending Turkey re. Cyprus, but for some reason that I am unable to explain you don't read what I say in my posts but instead put words into my mouth or attribute views to me that I have never expressed. Your last post is a case in point. For the record, my posts have included but not been limited to condemnation of Turkey's human rights abuses in Turkey and in Cyprus; I've proposed the removal of Turkey's army; of demilitarisation; of support for the ECHR process; of support for property restitution and compensation; of support for Apostiledes v Orams; of removal of the sovereign bases; of removal of guaranator power status; of defence of immigrants and asylum seekers in Cyprus; condemned Turkish government policies in range of areas; supported Annan-type plans; tried to explain the legal and political complexities of the Cyprus problem as I see it; and much more. But for some unfathomable reason, you Piratis, have not read what I've said and insist instead of inventing some crap about me not being bothered and defending T at every opportunity.

BTW what in your view is the difference between an honest hypocrite and a dishonest hypocrite ? How does the quality of honesty change the nature of hypocrisy ? And, in the scale of dishonest hypocrites what makes one the worst kind of dishonest hypocrite ? (Just wondered, because if mud is going to be thrown I'd quite like to know what kind of mud is being thrown at me).
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Postby halil » Sat May 22, 2010 10:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:
halil wrote:who cares who started first .................

have a look what UN says............rest of it bull shit !!!!!!!!!

I second that...

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm


http://www.unficyp.org/media/SG%20Repor ... 009610.pdf
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Postby Sotos » Sat May 22, 2010 10:58 pm

You will not find me defending Turkey re. Cyprus

:lol: :lol:

(finally you acknowledge that it is not just yours but ours as well)

Why is Cyprus yours as well? What are you?
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Postby halil » Sat May 22, 2010 11:04 pm

IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:
halil wrote:who cares who started first .................

have a look what UN says............rest of it bull shit !!!!!!!!!


“Following the elections, Greek Cypriot leader Mr. [Demetris] Christofias and new Turkish Cypriot leader Mr. [Dervis] Eroglu wrote to me, affirming their commitment to continuing with the talks,” he tells the Security Council, referring to the two-year-old negotiations aimed at establishing agreement on a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with a Federal Government and Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot Constituent States with equal status.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... yprus&Cr1=
i think from what i have read of your posts that you are an educated guy and a modorate,, so i am asking you a direct question ,,,,CAN GCS LIVE IN PEACE WITH TCS WITH NO PROBLEMS IF THERE IS A SETTLEMENT


with above perspective agreement, they can live ...

@Jerry, do not mixed the Cyprus with other places.Cyprus had partnership republic between TC's and GC's. If one side tries to dominate other side again there will be trouble , Not to have troubles at future politically equallity is very important. All the UN documents and plans are shows that direction.
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 11:09 pm

Sotos wrote:
You will not find me defending Turkey re. Cyprus

:lol: :lol:

(finally you acknowledge that it is not just yours but ours as well)

Why is Cyprus yours as well? What are you?


He is what I told you he was when he first joined. He didn't manage to fool me, did he fool anybody else?
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Postby Jerry » Sat May 22, 2010 11:18 pm

halil wrote:
@Jerry, do not mixed the Cyprus with other places.Cyprus had partnership republic between TC's and GC's. If one side tries to dominate other side again there will be trouble , Not to have troubles at future politically equallity is very important. All the UN documents and plans are shows that direction.


So Halil, Cyprus is unique in the world, can you explain why?

Do you not think there is just a slight chance that the special status afforded to the TCs was the cause, rather than a safeguard, of friction in the infant republic. Why is one Turkish Cypriot vote worth four Greek Cypriot ones. Are you God's chosen people?
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Postby Malapapa » Sat May 22, 2010 11:20 pm

halil wrote:
IMPOSTALIEDUS wrote:
halil wrote:who cares who started first .................

have a look what UN says............rest of it bull shit !!!!!!!!!


“Following the elections, Greek Cypriot leader Mr. [Demetris] Christofias and new Turkish Cypriot leader Mr. [Dervis] Eroglu wrote to me, affirming their commitment to continuing with the talks,” he tells the Security Council, referring to the two-year-old negotiations aimed at establishing agreement on a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation with a Federal Government and Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot Constituent States with equal status.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... yprus&Cr1=
i think from what i have read of your posts that you are an educated guy and a modorate,, so i am asking you a direct question ,,,,CAN GCS LIVE IN PEACE WITH TCS WITH NO PROBLEMS IF THERE IS A SETTLEMENT


with above perspective agreement, they can live ...

@Jerry, do not mixed the Cyprus with other places.Cyprus had partnership republic between TC's and GC's. If one side tries to dominate other side again there will be trouble , Not to have troubles at future politically equallity is very important. All the UN documents and plans are shows that direction.


Cypriots want political equality too so that these two sides (TCs and GCs) don't dominate us again, or there will be trouble. Not to have troubles at future, "politically equality" is very important for Cypriots. So now what?
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