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Who started the inter-communal conflict

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Postby Piratis » Fri May 21, 2010 11:36 pm

Oracle wrote:Excellent thread.

Enough of this nonsense of "both sides are equally to blame". It serves the Turks to keep reciting this mantra because they want everyone to forget they started all this and instead make themselves sound "sympathetic" to both sides.

Sometimes the fault can be planted fair and square where it deserves to be, through facts. And Piratis serves facts!


And even thought the Turkish side clearly has most of the blame for what happened in the past and the illegalities that continue to happen as we speak, we still do not demand for them to be punished.

All we want is to be free to determine the destiny of our own island in a democratic way, always with respect to the human rights of every Cypriot and without the racist discriminations which are imposed against our people since the Ottoman times.
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Postby Bananiot » Fri May 21, 2010 11:37 pm

They were taken there by the British, but do you know why they were picked up? Can you get yourself to find out?
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Postby Piratis » Fri May 21, 2010 11:46 pm

Bananiot wrote:They were taken there by the British, but do you know why they were picked up? Can you get yourself to find out?


Because they were trying to defend their homes and shops from being burned down by the TCs. This massacre happened on the 12th of June. The attacks of the TCs had started since the 7th of June something which is very well documented in the links I already gave.

Those people commited no crime whatsoever, which is why the British let them free.

But obviously according to a traitor like you anybody who opposes the Turkish aggression and is trying to defend himself deserves to be murdered by the Turks. :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 21, 2010 11:53 pm

Oracle wrote:Excellent thread.

Enough of this nonsense of "both sides are equally to blame". It serves the Turks to keep reciting this mantra because they want everyone to forget they started all this and instead make themselves sound "sympathetic" to both sides.

Sometimes the fault can be planted fair and square where it deserves to be, through facts. And Piratis serves facts!


...and the released GCs were on a picnic when arrested. :roll:

I am not making light of this but we cannot take this out of context.( am referring to those GCs killed in GRs link).

The British showed a lack of judgement and a lack of knowledge of the geography of the area.

The Majo Redgrave mentioned above is Venessa Redgraves Uncle. Sir Michael Redgraves brother. I met him in Cyprus 4 years ago. He wrote a book about his time in the forces in Cyprus. He does not talk much of the Geunyeli incident in his book. I wonder why.


Military career

Educated at Sherborne School, Redgrave joined Royal Horse Guards as a trooper in 1943.[1] In 1953 he managed the Hyde Park Horse Camp for the Coronation of the Queen.[2] Then in the late 1950s he was deployed to Cyprus at the height of the EOKA resistance campaign.[2]
He was made Commanding Officer of the Household Cavalry Regiment in 1962 and of the Royal Horse Guards in 1964.[1] He became Commandant of the Royal Armoured Corps Centre in 1974 and British Commander in Berlin in 1975.[1] He went on to be Commander of British Forces in Hong Kong in 1978 and retired in 1980.[1]
He is related to the Redgrave family of actors, via his father Robin Roy Redgrave, who was the patriarch Roy Redgrave's son by his first wife. Thus he is the cousin of actress Vanessa Redgrave.[2]
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Postby Bananiot » Fri May 21, 2010 11:57 pm

Very convenient Piratis! The fact that they were brandishing knifes and sticks, quite away from their homes which you say they were defending, is of no significance to you. That is why you are a bigot. You are not interested in the truth, you just want your truth to prevail, at any cost.
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Postby Lit » Sat May 22, 2010 12:12 am

Bananiot wrote:Very convenient Piratis! The fact that they were brandishing knifes and sticks, quite away from their homes which you say they were defending, is of no significance to you.


Why were they set free by the Brits if they were going out to kill?

Bananiot wrote: That is why you are a bigot.


Go f_ck yourself.

Bananiot wrote:You are not interested in the truth, you just want your truth to prevail, at any cost.


What truth? Your truth? You hypocrite! If we do not believe in "your truth" then we are all bigots...is that how it works you "meta leftist" fascist buffoon?
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 22, 2010 12:15 am

Bananiot wrote:Very convenient Piratis! The fact that they were brandishing knifes and sticks, quite away from their homes which you say they were defending, is of no significance to you. That is why you are a bigot. You are not interested in the truth, you just want your truth to prevail, at any cost.


And what date were they "brandishing knifes and sticks" bananiot? Check it out you idiot, and you will find out they did this after many homes and shops of GCs have been burned down by the TCs starting on the 7th of June.

Or when the TCs are using knifes and sticks burning down GC homes and shops everything is fine and only when the GCs react to the TC aggression something is wrong?

Yet again Bananiot defends the Turkish MURDERERS, he defends the burning of shops and homes of innocent GCs, and the only thing he finds wrong is that GCs reacted to the TC aggression and they tried to send the message to TCs that they would fight back if they have to.

This is the Truth Bananiot: The TCs attacked us, burning homes and shops of innocent people, the GCs reacted comparatively mildly and then the TCs massacred innocent people in their effort to escalate the conflict even further.

It is nothing but the truth that the inter-communal conflict was initiated by the TCs because this conflict was part of their partition plan. This fact is very clear and supported by the evidence. Beyond that of course the GCs would react AFTER they were attacked in such a way. What did you expect GCs to do, when the police (British) did very little to stop the TC riots?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat May 22, 2010 12:18 am

Lit wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Very convenient Piratis! The fact that they were brandishing knifes and sticks, quite away from their homes which you say they were defending, is of no significance to you.


Why were they set free by the Brits if they were going out to kill?

Bananiot wrote: That is why you are a bigot.


Go f_ck yourself.

Bananiot wrote:You are not interested in the truth, you just want your truth to prevail, at any cost.


What truth? Your truth? You hypocrite! If we do not believe in "your truth" than we are all bigots...is that how it works you "meta leftist" fascist buffoon?



Setting them free was indeed a mistake. But if you read the documents you will see why they were released.

They were at first ordered to take them to the central police station in Nicosia. There were still rioting/demonstrations very close to the police station and they felt it was too dangerous. Thats why they decided to 'dump' them where they did. Not a very good idea - as the events proved.
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Postby Lit » Sat May 22, 2010 12:21 am

Piratis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Very convenient Piratis! The fact that they were brandishing knifes and sticks, quite away from their homes which you say they were defending, is of no significance to you. That is why you are a bigot. You are not interested in the truth, you just want your truth to prevail, at any cost.


And what date were they "brandishing knifes and sticks" bananiot? Check it out you idiot, and you will find out they did this after many homes and shops of GCs have been burned down by the TCs starting on the 7th of June.

Or when the TCs are using knifes and sticks burning down GC homes and shops everything is fine and only when the GCs react to the TC aggression something is wrong?

Yet again Bananiot defends the Turkish MURDERERS, he defends the burning of shops and homes of innocent GCs, and the only thing he finds wrong is that GCs reacted to the TC aggression and they tried to send the message to TCs that they would fight back if they have to.

This is the Truth Bananiot: The TCs attacked us, burning homes and shops of innocent people, the GCs reacted comparatively mildly and then the TCs massacred innocent people in their effort to escalate the conflict even further.

It is nothing but the truth that the inter-communal conflict was initiated by the TCs because this conflict was part of their partition plan. This fact is very clear and supported by the evidence. Beyond that of course the GCs would react AFTER they were attacked in such a way. What did you expect GCs to do, when the police (British) did very little to stop the TC riots?


40,000 Turkish troops armed to the teeth prevent this so called Cypriot named Bananiot from living in the north but have you ever heard him complain about it? No! He seems to attack those who oppose the occupation and is happy to travel to the north as a tourist!
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Re: Who started the inter-communal conflict

Postby Get Real! » Sat May 22, 2010 12:29 am

Piratis wrote:The inter-communal conflict was initiated by the Turkish minority in June of 1958. They did this by massacring GCs and by burning the homes and shops of innocent people.

It doesn't look like Piratis mentioned this, but the trigger of the TC rioting was the same day bombing of the Turkish Consulate Press Office by the TMT in a false flag operation.
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