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G.C. parties-no consensus,a depressing scenario...

Postby cymart » Fri May 21, 2010 4:12 pm

Once again the Greek-Cypriot political parties have failed to rise to the needs of the times by being able to even issue a joint annoucement after several marathon sessions of the national council,effectively leaving Christophias alone to deal with what looks like being probably the most crucial phase of the negotiations to find a solution!Their failure to see 'outside the box' and look at the wider issues,preferring to give priority to petty party ambitions,no doubt because they have their sights on parliamentary elections next year, is a reflection of the sorry state of affairs things are in here....no wonder opinion polls show that the public rating for politicians is so low!How they will re-act to coming crucial developments is also fairly predictable and with the economy here also facing mega problems,the situation is far from encouraging.
Meanwhile,Greece,Turkey and the rest of the world are moving on and even the U.N. Secretary General have diplomatically said that time is running out and that now is the correct moment for a solution!
As last Sundays events in Kondea showed,when the ordinary people have the will and desire,there is a way forward and positive things can happen if the effort is made.
Maybe its high time more and more of us on both sides took the initiative and bypassed the incompetent and self serving politicians...the tide is turning so lets ride with the wave,rather than try to resisit it!!
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Re: G.C. parties-no consensus,a depressing scenario...

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 21, 2010 4:26 pm

cymart wrote:...even the U.N. Secretary General have diplomatically said that time is running out and that now is the correct moment for a solution!

Time is indeed running out...

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
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Re: G.C. parties-no consensus,a depressing scenario...

Postby YFred » Fri May 21, 2010 5:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
cymart wrote:...even the U.N. Secretary General have diplomatically said that time is running out and that now is the correct moment for a solution!

Time is indeed running out...

UN RESOLUTION 361 (1974)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)
http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

Reh GRui put a few more coins in then? You don't want it to run out.
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Re: G.C. parties-no consensus,a depressing scenario...

Postby BirKibrisli » Fri May 21, 2010 5:42 pm

cymart wrote:Once again the Greek-Cypriot political parties have failed to rise to the needs of the times by being able to even issue a joint annoucement after several marathon sessions of the national council,effectively leaving Christophias alone to deal with what looks like being probably the most crucial phase of the negotiations to find a solution!Their failure to see 'outside the box' and look at the wider issues,preferring to give priority to petty party ambitions,no doubt because they have their sights on parliamentary elections next year, is a reflection of the sorry state of affairs things are in here....no wonder opinion polls show that the public rating for politicians is so low!How they will re-act to coming crucial developments is also fairly predictable and with the economy here also facing mega problems,the situation is far from encouraging.
Meanwhile,Greece,Turkey and the rest of the world are moving on and even the U.N. Secretary General have diplomatically said that time is running out and that now is the correct moment for a solution!
As last Sundays events in Kondea showed,when the ordinary people have the will and desire,there is a way forward and positive things can happen if the effort is made.
Maybe its high time more and more of us on both sides took the initiative and bypassed the incompetent and self serving politicians...the tide is turning so lets ride with the wave,rather than try to resisit it!!


Speak to DT and GR! They have the monopoly on ideas to get Turkey to leave...I will read their contributions in the morning and have a good laugh...It is pathetic how the GCs one by one have turned Partitionist on this forum...I am waiting for Bananiot to accept partition as well before I kiss you all goodbye... I have never seen people as bloodyminded,senseless, clueless,and stubborn as people on this forum...Poor Cyprus,she deserve better than what she has in you miserable lot... :evil:
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Re: G.C. parties-no consensus,a depressing scenario...

Postby Sotos » Fri May 21, 2010 7:26 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
cymart wrote:Once again the Greek-Cypriot political parties have failed to rise to the needs of the times by being able to even issue a joint annoucement after several marathon sessions of the national council,effectively leaving Christophias alone to deal with what looks like being probably the most crucial phase of the negotiations to find a solution!Their failure to see 'outside the box' and look at the wider issues,preferring to give priority to petty party ambitions,no doubt because they have their sights on parliamentary elections next year, is a reflection of the sorry state of affairs things are in here....no wonder opinion polls show that the public rating for politicians is so low!How they will re-act to coming crucial developments is also fairly predictable and with the economy here also facing mega problems,the situation is far from encouraging.
Meanwhile,Greece,Turkey and the rest of the world are moving on and even the U.N. Secretary General have diplomatically said that time is running out and that now is the correct moment for a solution!
As last Sundays events in Kondea showed,when the ordinary people have the will and desire,there is a way forward and positive things can happen if the effort is made.
Maybe its high time more and more of us on both sides took the initiative and bypassed the incompetent and self serving politicians...the tide is turning so lets ride with the wave,rather than try to resisit it!!


Speak to DT and GR! They have the monopoly on ideas to get Turkey to leave...I will read their contributions in the morning and have a good laugh...It is pathetic how the GCs one by one have turned Partitionist on this forum...I am waiting for Bananiot to accept partition as well before I kiss you all goodbye... I have never seen people as bloodyminded,senseless, clueless,and stubborn as people on this forum...Poor Cyprus,she deserve better than what she has in you miserable lot... :evil:


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Re: G.C. parties-no consensus,a depressing scenario...

Postby Get Real! » Fri May 21, 2010 7:49 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:It is pathetic how the GCs one by one have turned Partitionist on this forum...

You wish... we're all liberationists. :wink:
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Postby Sotos » Fri May 21, 2010 8:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:It is pathetic how the GCs one by one have turned Partitionist on this forum...

You wish... we're all liberationists. :wink:


If we were partitionists the the Turks would have gotten what they want from Cyprus long time ago. We will not do them the favor.
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Postby georgios100 » Fri May 21, 2010 8:16 pm

Nobody wants partition... GCs want a united Cyprus.

But as I said, many times, The GC politicians are divided and unable to unite themselves, never mind the island. They are useless. There is no one with vision & guts to make a decision. A third party is needed.

Somebody on this forum said:

"our politician's hands are tied..."

The usual excuse for getting nothing done.
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Postby cymart » Fri May 21, 2010 8:33 pm

They should all do what Gordon Brown did last week and retire with dignity!
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Postby larnacaman » Fri May 21, 2010 9:59 pm

cymart/BirKibrisli,


Further to your posts,

Cypriots, on both sides, have been brainwashed and hijacked by bent and/or corrupted politicians, that in the real world are looking after No1 and to hell with you lot!!! Then you have, what you can call the ''hard line'' core that are actually in the minority but not if you listen to them. Many of these also have a undisclosed interests to keep things in the Status Que. None of these people /parties are working for the good of the country. So toss them to one side and start thinking for yourselves.

Nothing is ever going to come to either side, without ''compromises''!! ...If your going to keep your minds firmly fixed in the past, your all lost before you have even began. One things for sure, there is no gain to be made by supporting another nations flag. Hell, ....how many of you have even been to these countries that you vehemently support, how many of your parents or there parents have ever been??? Both are virtually bankrupt and on there knees, ....So Toss them to one side too, and start thinking as CYPRIOTS because that's what you ARE, ....and ''Not'' GC or TC!!

You all lived in basic harmony together from way back when. ...It was only the bloody politicians and zealots that screwed that up in the first place, and it was politicians and the same zealots that basically screwed you up again on your first real chance of solving the Cyprus problem. That also resulted in the EU washing there hands of any further involvement in the Cyprus problem (They don't like being blatantly lied too) Realise that on the whole the Cypriots have been treated like mushrooms by your politicians for donkey's years, and they tried the doing the same in Brussels.

You have been separated for around 35 years or so to date, if you don't want it to be another 35 years, or even considerably longer, then your going to have to start listening to each other as Cypriots. No ones saying it's going to be easy, but then nothing ever is that's worth having, ...is it??

All these so called patriot's, be they politicians or otherwise, that have blocked Evey single move or action towards unification should be kicked out of whatever position of power they presently hold, and make dammed sure that they have no involvement in any future talks. Then maybe ...just maybe you'll stand a Real chance of solving the Cyprus problem, ....Who knows!!!

I guess this BirKibrisli, ....is where all those bloody minded, senseless, clueless , zealots, believing mushrooms and the purely stubborn people on this forum will show why nothing will ever get settled, if they, and people like them have anything to do with it!!!!

Bloody SAD!!!
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