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Postby Liontaroui » Thu May 20, 2010 2:38 pm

Well would you rather they made everybody wait a year for the passport till they made their checks?
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Postby bigOz » Thu May 20, 2010 3:06 pm

When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 20, 2010 3:15 pm

bigOz wrote:When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!



Did no one suggest to you to get an 'affidavit' from your local Muhtar.

Our local GC Muhtar signed relevant documents for ID purposes and were accepted.
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Postby bigOz » Thu May 20, 2010 3:23 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
bigOz wrote:When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!



Did no one suggest to you to get an 'affidavit' from your local Muhtar.

Our local GC Muhtar signed relevant documents for ID purposes and were accepted.

Yes! That may well be true for the wife! But we are divorced (9 years ago) and she is not a traveller - hence no need to bother with ROC ID or Passport. She has married since and my 13 year old son has been living with me for many years. |My problem is, I cannot make her go through the trouble and expense of getting any ROC ID or Passport - even for our son's sake!

I can get divorce papers etc but that will not help. If it is accepted I am the father, and he has an original birth certificate certified by the TC doctor at time of birth, and other related docs all certified by the GC Courts also - why on earth do I need his mum's ID to register him???
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 20, 2010 3:28 pm

bigOz wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bigOz wrote:When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!



Did no one suggest to you to get an 'affidavit' from your local Muhtar.

Our local GC Muhtar signed relevant documents for ID purposes and were accepted.

Yes! That may well be true for the wife! But we are divorced (9 years ago) and she is not a traveller - hence no need to bother with ROC ID or Passport. She has married since and my 13 year old son has been living with me for many years. |My problem is, I cannot make her go through the trouble and expense of getting any ROC ID or Passport - even for our son's sake!

I can get divorce papers etc but that will not help. If it is accepted I am the father, and he has an original birth certificate certified by the TC doctor at time of birth, and other related docs all certified by the GC Courts also - why on earth do I need his mum's ID to register him???



Complications as such never make these easier. Sorry.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu May 20, 2010 5:43 pm

Liontaroui wrote:Well would you rather they made everybody wait a year for the passport till they made their checks?

No, YFred would rather the RoC not issue passports to TCs at all, then he would really have something to moan about.
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Postby YFred » Thu May 20, 2010 5:52 pm

Me Ed wrote:
Liontaroui wrote:Well would you rather they made everybody wait a year for the passport till they made their checks?

No, YFred would rather the RoC not issue passports to TCs at all, then he would really have something to moan about.

Bloody hell ME can you read minds. The map you are using is upside down. You are not in Ausi land are you, or change battaries or somfink.
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Postby halil » Thu May 20, 2010 6:45 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
bigOz wrote:When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!



Did no one suggest to you to get an 'affidavit' from your local Muhtar.

Our local GC Muhtar signed relevant documents for ID purposes and were accepted.


u see Deniz, it is not easy to get ID.... u got the prove that u were TC and born in here. U have to show your parents ID's as well and they have to do their search as well than u can get your ID.... Not like KIKOŞ trying to mislead the people .

After they complete their search,u can get your own ID. Than u can apply for passport. To get your passport takes two weeks.
Yes u pay for ten years fee but your Passport is valid only 2 years.
after 2 years u can extend it . They adds another 8 years on it. This time u don't pay anything because u were paid it before.
And u tell it we are equal citizens.
One of the reasons DENIZ we are all asking Equality on everything. Thats way talks will go very hard....İt will be hard not to be seconed class in our own future federal republic of Cyprus.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu May 20, 2010 7:02 pm

halil wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bigOz wrote:When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!



Did no one suggest to you to get an 'affidavit' from your local Muhtar.

Our local GC Muhtar signed relevant documents for ID purposes and were accepted.


u see Deniz, it is not easy to get ID.... u got the prove that u were TC and born in here. U have to show your parents ID's as well and they have to do their search as well than u can get your ID.... Not like KIKOŞ trying to mislead the people .

After they complete their search,u can get your own ID. Than u can apply for passport. To get your passport takes two weeks.
Yes u pay for ten years fee but your Passport is valid only 2 years.
after 2 years u can extend it . They adds another 8 years on it. This time u don't pay anything because u were paid it before.
And u tell it we are equal citizens.
One of the reasons DENIZ we are all asking Equality on everything. Thats way talks will go very hard....İt will be hard not to be seconed class in our own future federal republic of Cyprus.



I hear what you are saying Halil, I will take off my ear muffs now, thank you.

I know in the north it is much easier.

Two years ago I met a TC doctor (you know where). I introduced myself; he then said 'come to my office, I will get you whatever documents you need.' That is very efficient. What he was offering me was a 'KKTC' ID card. I smiled and left him alone. :lol:

Next time you shout, I will tell you a story. :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu May 20, 2010 7:08 pm

halil wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
bigOz wrote:When I tried to get an ID for my son (as a born Cypriot who held a republic passport since 1969) I ran into a brick wall because I am divorced with the wife and they want her Cyprus Rep ID besides my ROC ID and/or Passport.

The problem is, she was a refugee from Limassol in 1974, and she has to get a ROC ID first.
Her birth was not registered pre 1974, although her mum had an ID.
Her mother died 3 years ago and her family cannot find her ID.
When she went to get an ID they said they cannot give her unless she brings her mum's ID... and it goes on and on and on...

But all the above is no concern of mine. I am the father and I already have a birth certificate for my son, certified by courts in South, showing he was born in Girne. He is a TC of TC descendant - so how is it I am left at his mums discretion whether I can get him a ROC ID or not? What if she never gets a ROC ID? Thank God for TRNC, or my son would be stateless!



Did no one suggest to you to get an 'affidavit' from your local Muhtar.

Our local GC Muhtar signed relevant documents for ID purposes and were accepted.


u see Deniz, it is not easy to get ID.... u got the prove that u were TC and born in here. U have to show your parents ID's as well and they have to do their search as well than u can get your ID.... Not like KIKOŞ trying to mislead the people .

After they complete their search,u can get your own ID. Than u can apply for passport. To get your passport takes two weeks.
Yes u pay for ten years fee but your Passport is valid only 2 years.
after 2 years u can extend it . They adds another 8 years on it. This time u don't pay anything because u were paid it before.
And u tell it we are equal citizens.
One of the reasons DENIZ we are all asking Equality on everything. Thats way talks will go very hard....İt will be hard not to be seconed class in our own future federal republic of Cyprus.


Halil, stop being a little shit.!

How did I mislead anyone.??

You have repeated everything I wrote, so where is the mislead?

The RoC has every right to make sure those applying for ID's and passports are True TCs and not the Illegal Aliens masquerading as TCs, just because you were stupid enough to give them "trnc citizenship's". You have blended well into the settlers, you have been osmosised by the settlers, so don't cry inequality now. That's what happens when you change your names to be more like the Turks and also change your status from being a Turkish Cypriot to being a "Turks of Cyprus". Don't you know that Turkey and the RoC are at "war". You have made matters worse for yourselves by becoming more like the Turks than Cypriots, so accept some of the blame as to why you only get 2 year passport before getting the full 10 years. Be grateful the RoC doesn't take 2 years to check your Cypriot status before giving you anything, considering you don't even recognize the RoC, on top of which, you very proudly call the "trnc" your country where 200,000 GC refugees been kicked out of their land and homes by Turkey!
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