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[Nikitas]

No, not that it would then join Turkey. Once you let go of national status it is hard to regain it. The possibility would be some manufactured tension and then a split into two independent nations, ie partition via the long way round, but then the two entities seeking recognition would be starting from zero, and the one that had Turkey on its side would be playing with a clear advantage.

[repulsewarrior]

...funny how Turkey did not have to recognise the existence of the RoC so that it could recognise the trnC.

[Acikgoz]

So the issue is that it would be a "new" constitution from the old RoC? Would one expect any different if the solution encompasses a BBF. Else, was it the process is what bothered you rather than the end result?
Having real trouble making practical sense of your issue.

[repulsewarrior]

...i think the issue is that the Annan Plan was unclear, not unlike the Treaty of Zurich, which failed.

[DT.]

So the issue is that it would be a "new" constitution from the old RoC? Would one expect any different if the solution encompasses a BBF. Else, was it the process is what bothered you rather than the end result?
Having real trouble making practical sense of your issue.

Hence our red line. The new Federation would be an evolution of the Republic of Cyprus and not a virgin birth. Does it make sense to you now?

[Nikitas]

So, is the new team picking up the negotiation where the Talat team left it, or will there be revisions and backtracking? This is the vital bit, not the personalities involved.

[Oracle]

Are you saying that the GCs suspected the Annan Plan was a ploy to get the trnc recognised so that they would then vote to join Turkey in an act of self-determination? Vow...With this amount of mistrust we are bonkers to believe there would ever be a solution...

It's not "mistrust"!

Sometimes you have to accept that Turkey did not earn its reputation through "mistrust" alone but through Expansionist, genocidal, racist agendas which no one should be forced to accept!

... except misguided "romantic" die-hard Turkophiles like you!

[YFred]

Are you saying that the GCs suspected the Annan Plan was a ploy to get the trnc recognised so that they would then vote to join Turkey in an act of self-determination? Vow...With this amount of mistrust we are bonkers to believe there would ever be a solution...

It's not "mistrust"!

Sometimes you have to accept that Turkey did not earn its reputation through "mistrust" alone but through Expansionist, genocidal, racist agendas which no one should be forced to accept!

... except misguided "romantic" die-hard Turkophiles like you!

Is it true that you are that crazy person that just joined us?
Fes up FFS, we are going to crack from laughter.

[BirKibrisli]

Are you saying that the GCs suspected the Annan Plan was a ploy to get the trnc recognised so that they would then vote to join Turkey in an act of self-determination? Vow...With this amount of mistrust we are bonkers to believe there would ever be a solution...

It's not "mistrust"!

Sometimes you have to accept that Turkey did not earn its reputation through "mistrust" alone but through Expansionist, genocidal, racist agendas which no one should be forced to accept!

... except misguided "romantic" die-hard Turkophiles like you!

So what you are showing in this post is a lot of trust is it????

It must be such a relief to be so sure your side is all Good and the other all Evil...You will make a great subject for certain psychological studies,Oracle...There are at least 10 PHD thesis waiting to be written on you...

[BirKibrisli]

Are you saying that the GCs suspected the Annan Plan was a ploy to get the trnc recognised so that they would then vote to join Turkey in an act of self-determination? Vow...With this amount of mistrust we are bonkers to believe there would ever be a solution...

It's not "mistrust"!

Sometimes you have to accept that Turkey did not earn its reputation through "mistrust" alone but through Expansionist, genocidal, racist agendas which no one should be forced to accept!

... except misguided "romantic" die-hard Turkophiles like you!

Is it true that you are that crazy person that just joined us?
Fes up FFS, we are going to crack from laughter.

Which crazy person that just joined us? What am I missing here in the upside down end of the world,YFred???