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Postby YFred » Thu May 20, 2010 5:50 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Gasman wrote:Is the link to the article to highlight acquisition of new equipment? Or (as the title says - 'Closing in on draft dodgers'?

I remember there was a lot of noise and publicity about Cyprus 'closing in on draft dodgers' more than 3 yrs ago.

It's a small population and, if TWENTY PERCENT of all conscriptees are dodging it by claiming mental health problems - that is a very high proportion of the population with mental illness isn't it?


Civil wars do funny things to people,Gasman...20% is not too high for Cyprus.. :(

Judging by the performance of this forum, I would say 75% is nearer to the point and is tilting towards the southern lands. Get the staight jackets ready, the wagon is on the way.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 20, 2010 7:22 pm

bigOz wrote:...the problem with G.C.s and mainland Greeks has always been the fact that they expect others to fight their wars for them.

You'd make a great standup comedian... :roll:


1963/64: The Turkish Air force napalms GCs to save the TCs from certain defeat at Kokkina.

1967: The Turkish threat to bomb GCs again saves the TCs once more from certain defeat at Kofinou.

1974: Turkey launches a full scale military invasion allegedly to save TCs from the Greek coup.


Now tell me… who is fighting whose battles? It seems to me that the GCs were beating the TC renegade resistance to a pulp EVERY TIME and they had to call mommy to save themselves!

Idiot!
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Postby Oracle » Thu May 20, 2010 7:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:...the problem with G.C.s and mainland Greeks has always been the fact that they expect others to fight their wars for them.

You'd make a great standup comedian... :roll:


1963/64: The Turkish Air force napalms GCs to save the TCs from certain defeat at Kokkina.

1967: The Turkish threat to bomb GCs again saves the TCs once more from certain defeat at Kofinou.

1974: Turkey launches a full scale military invasion allegedly to save TCs from the Greek coup.


Now tell me… who is fighting whose battles? It seems to me that the GCs were beating the TC renegade resistance to a pulp EVERY TIME and they had to call mommy to save themselves!

Idiot!


Don't forget EOKA saw off the Brits!
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 20, 2010 7:31 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:...the problem with G.C.s and mainland Greeks has always been the fact that they expect others to fight their wars for them.

You'd make a great standup comedian... :roll:


1963/64: The Turkish Air force napalms GCs to save the TCs from certain defeat at Kokkina.

1967: The Turkish threat to bomb GCs again saves the TCs once more from certain defeat at Kofinou.

1974: Turkey launches a full scale military invasion allegedly to save TCs from the Greek coup.


Now tell me… who is fighting whose battles? It seems to me that the GCs were beating the TC renegade resistance to a pulp EVERY TIME and they had to call mommy to save themselves!

Idiot!


Don't forget EOKA saw off the Brits!

I forgot another one...

2010: Without any further supplies/support from Turkey, the CNG can turn the “TRNC” into glass in one or two days! (TCs & Turkish military stationed here combined)
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 20, 2010 7:45 pm

bigOz wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:It worked in Cyprus during 1974 did it not?

One-sided “wars” always work but don’t expect a repeat…


Hey,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...How are the war preparations going??
You will give us a warning here,to avoid Cyprus at the wrong time,won't you...??? :wink: :)

On track...

"Defence Minister Costas Papacostas said yesterday. Speaking at a news conference to mark two years in office under the current government where he also talked about new equipment acquisitions,..."

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/closi ... s/20100519


AND? :roll:

Here’s what’s arriving among other things in this consignment to supplement the CNG’s ever growing line of state of the art S2A…meet the Tunguska:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUeqSseERo
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Postby YFred » Thu May 20, 2010 7:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:It worked in Cyprus during 1974 did it not?

One-sided “wars” always work but don’t expect a repeat…


Hey,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...How are the war preparations going??
You will give us a warning here,to avoid Cyprus at the wrong time,won't you...??? :wink: :)

On track...

"Defence Minister Costas Papacostas said yesterday. Speaking at a news conference to mark two years in office under the current government where he also talked about new equipment acquisitions,..."

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/closi ... s/20100519


AND? :roll:

Here’s what’s arriving among other things in this consignment to supplement the CNG’s ever growing line of state of the art S2A…meet the Tunguska:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUeqSseERo


How much space will we need to keep these things GR? Do they have to be covered or can they be kept in open air? We have loads of air for free.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu May 20, 2010 9:50 pm

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:It worked in Cyprus during 1974 did it not?

One-sided “wars” always work but don’t expect a repeat…


Hey,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...How are the war preparations going??
You will give us a warning here,to avoid Cyprus at the wrong time,won't you...??? :wink: :)

On track...

"Defence Minister Costas Papacostas said yesterday. Speaking at a news conference to mark two years in office under the current government where he also talked about new equipment acquisitions,..."

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/closi ... s/20100519


AND? :roll:

Here’s what’s arriving among other things in this consignment to supplement the CNG’s ever growing line of state of the art S2A…meet the Tunguska:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUeqSseERo


How much space will we need to keep these things GR? Do they have to be covered or can they be kept in open air? We have loads of air for free.

Y-Fronts, there’s no doubt in my mind that had we gone to school together I’d be giving you a wedgie every day…
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri May 21, 2010 12:58 am

Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:It worked in Cyprus during 1974 did it not?

One-sided “wars” always work but don’t expect a repeat…


Hey,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...How are the war preparations going??
You will give us a warning here,to avoid Cyprus at the wrong time,won't you...??? :wink: :)

On track...

"Defence Minister Costas Papacostas said yesterday. Speaking at a news conference to mark two years in office under the current government where he also talked about new equipment acquisitions,..."

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/closi ... s/20100519


AND? :roll:

Here’s what’s arriving among other things in this consignment to supplement the CNG’s ever growing line of state of the art S2A…meet the Tunguska:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUeqSseERo


:lol: :lol:

It is oficial,GR has spent too much time playing computer games...
With Tungusta in CNG hands no GC will be safe within 700kms... :wink: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Fri May 21, 2010 10:36 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
bigOz wrote:It worked in Cyprus during 1974 did it not?

One-sided “wars” always work but don’t expect a repeat…


Hey,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...How are the war preparations going??
You will give us a warning here,to avoid Cyprus at the wrong time,won't you...??? :wink: :)

On track...

"Defence Minister Costas Papacostas said yesterday. Speaking at a news conference to mark two years in office under the current government where he also talked about new equipment acquisitions,..."

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/closi ... s/20100519


AND? :roll:

Here’s what’s arriving among other things in this consignment to supplement the CNG’s ever growing line of state of the art S2A…meet the Tunguska:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUeqSseERo


How much space will we need to keep these things GR? Do they have to be covered or can they be kept in open air? We have loads of air for free.

Y-Fronts, there’s no doubt in my mind that had we gone to school together I’d be giving you a wedgie every day…

I don't mind you making crap wisecracks but at least have the decency to answer the question. Can they be left outside or do they need to be under cover FFS?
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Postby Nikitas » Sun May 30, 2010 6:17 pm

From today's 30 May 2010 Politis review of Davutoglu's book.

"Cyprus has a central position in the world land mass, since it is equidistant from Europe, Asia and Africa. Together with Crete, it is on a line which crosses the shipping lanes. Cyprus occupies a position between the Straits which separate Europe from Asia and the Suez canal, whhich separates Europe from Africa, while simultaneously forms a base, an aircraft carrier which can control the pulse of the sea lanes of Aden and Hormuz, along with the basins of the Caspian and the Gulf, the most important links of Eurasia and Africa. A nation that ignores Cyprus cannot be active in world regional politics".

With this newly published quotation from the book it is obvious that the professor of Turkish foreign policy is firmly fixed in the 19th century. China is a nation obviously ignoring Cyprus, so is Japan. Are these two nations out of world politics because they ignore Cyprus?

As for Cyprus being a base and aircraft carrier and all that crap the professor is spouting, on this point at least General George Grivas in his memoiers, published 50years ago (!!!) had a wiser approach. Grivas had the lucidity to realise that the development of modern navies with carrier groups neutralised the importance of land bases like Cyprus and Crete.

The insistence of seeing the world as mix of lines and basins is reminiscent of a child playing with his buckets at the sea side. It is apparent that this guy has not heard of cruise missiles and satellite derived intelligence. At least modern children have moved from buckets and basins to mobile phones and computers which can log into Googlearth. He ought to try Googlearth at some point in his career.

WHen the railway link between China and Europe opens up and container traffic can move faster, more cheaply and reliably between the two continents, then I wonder what Davutoglu will do with this basins and lines theory of the region.
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