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lets look at south africa

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Postby CopperLine » Sat May 15, 2010 10:59 pm

Can I be bothered to reply to another dose of Oracle's racist ignorant bullshit ?












No.
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Postby Oracle » Sat May 15, 2010 11:06 pm

CopperLine wrote:Can I be bothered to reply to another dose of Oracle's racist ignorant bullshit ?












No.


Thank you for taking the trouble to post your shortcomings in comprehension, again!

Anyone who objects to the Invading, colonising, apartheid-establishing Turks, is now a "racist"? :?

Go figure ...
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Postby Acikgoz » Sun May 16, 2010 1:04 am

I note you often leave subjects when you have no answer when called on your b.s. Orifice
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 16, 2010 1:34 am

CopperLine wrote:SA is not a good comparison with Cyprus if you are looking at the causes of the problems or how the respective systems developed, but it might be a useful example for comparison regarding the negotiation of transition from one system to another and subsequent reconciliation efforts (regardless of whether they were not wholly successful).

totally agree with copper on this one...a good starting point...

lets not forget that the tcs are not oppressesd today and furter more both gcs and tcs are not at the same level as to what the blacks were when the apartheid system was kicked out...
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Postby Gasman » Sun May 16, 2010 2:26 am

due to the re-invasion and recolonisation by the supremacist enslaving rulers (Turks) who have now placed the Cyprus Problem on a stratospheric course of inhumanity.

Lovely turn of phrase!

But, the initialisation/seeding of Apartheid in Cyprus shares many parallels with South Africa. The Ottomans, like the White supremacists, initially invaded hundreds of years ago and have been ruling as a priviliged minority for an overly long time.


This priviliged minority of Ottomans - they are ruling where? Cyprus?
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 16, 2010 3:01 am

end of the day the only way forward is when, freedom to your voice, human rights, protection afforded to your voice, coupled with the rule of law is the only way forward...

this has been proven and it works...it might take some time but better than the current deadlock...or an aparteid system...
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Postby boomerang » Sun May 16, 2010 5:18 am

today in oz we are free to talk about what the white man dished to the aboriginals...the stolen generations...the target practising...the land grabing, etc...no longer these subjects are taboo...all these achieved with democracy, human rights and rule of law...

and believe me the aboriginals suffered a lot more than the tcs through the intercommunal fighting...

but as usual yesterday men can't seem to figure this out, they always refer to the past with their brain stuck in a time warp...ain't this right bir?...
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Postby Piratis » Sun May 16, 2010 6:39 am

Cap wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So you say the blacks should be allowed to slaughter whites because they are the majority only prove our worst nightmare.


What I am saying is that there are laws, police and courts in SA and they should be the ones to deal with any criminals. You can not use those crimes as an excuse to indiscriminately violate the human rights of the whole black population of SA.

Racism and discriminations are the root of the problem, and are never part of the solution. Even those white farmers that Gasman was talking about are victims of the hate generated due to these racist discriminations that plagued SA for centuries.


Erm... Apartheid began in 1948 and ended in 1994. 46 years, not centuries.
Racism and discrimination is rife against the white minority, They're being oppressed. Exterminated actually. More whites have been brutality murdered in 16 years of 'freedom' than black people in 46 years of 'apartheid' - Apartheid meaning seperate development, NOT oppression.


The racism and exploitation of Africa by Europeans is going on for centuries. I was not talking just about apartheid.

Apartheid means segregation and discrimination based on race. There is no question that there was a discrimination against the blacks and that it is this that created the hate that continues to create problems today.
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Postby Piratis » Sun May 16, 2010 6:41 am

Gasman wrote:
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Are you serious? THOUSANDS of white farmers have been murdered since the end of apartheid!


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Does this make all the blacks guilty? Should Europeans re-invade South Africa and occupy it to protect their own minority there? Or maybe they should split South Africa in two, ethnically cleanse the majority of the population (Blacks) from one part, and give that part to the whites and to more European Settlers? You think that this should be the "solution"?


Gawd! WHERE did I say that all blacks are guilty? Or that I think what you describe is the 'solution'?

I merely rebutted the idea in the opening post that the end of apartheid in SA did not result in problems.

All I've done is quote FACTS. None of which are my own opinion.


I didn't say that you said those things. I was just asking questions.
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Postby Oracle » Sun May 16, 2010 9:04 am

Gasman wrote:All I've done is quote FACTS. None of which are my own opinion.



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