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[Cap]

So you say the blacks should be allowed to slaughter whites because they are the majority only prove our worst nightmare.

What I am saying is that there are laws, police and courts in SA and they should be the ones to deal with any criminals. You can not use those crimes as an excuse to indiscriminately violate the human rights of the whole black population of SA.

Racism and discriminations are the root of the problem, and are never part of the solution. Even those white farmers that Gasman was talking about are victims of the hate generated due to these racist discriminations that plagued SA for centuries.

Erm... Apartheid began in 1948 and ended in 1994. 46 years, not centuries.
Racism and discrimination is rife against the white minority, They're being oppressed. Exterminated actually. More whites have been brutality murdered in 16 years of 'freedom' than black people in 46 years of 'apartheid' - Apartheid meaning seperate development, NOT oppression.

[Gasman]

Gasman wrote:

Are you serious? THOUSANDS of white farmers have been murdered since the end of apartheid!

Piratis wrote:

Does this make all the blacks guilty? Should Europeans re-invade South Africa and occupy it to protect their own minority there? Or maybe they should split South Africa in two, ethnically cleanse the majority of the population (Blacks) from one part, and give that part to the whites and to more European Settlers? You think that this should be the "solution"?

Gawd! WHERE did I say that all blacks are guilty? Or that I think what you describe is the 'solution'?

I merely rebutted the idea in the opening post that the end of apartheid in SA did not result in problems.

All I've done is quote FACTS. None of which are my own opinion.

[Gasman]

Even those white farmers that Gasman was talking about are victims of the hate generated due to these racist discriminations that plagued SA for centuries.

Yes they are. I agree with that. What I disagree with is that apartheid ended with no problems for anyone.

[CopperLine]

More whites have been brutality murdered in 16 years of 'freedom' than black people in 46 years of 'apartheid' - Apartheid meaning seperate development, NOT oppression.

You've got to be kidding !!! Total crap. Apartheid = government on basis of institutionalised, constitutional racism, basic racialised inequality enforced through armed oppression. The wars of apartheid - through the 1970s and 1980s especially - killed more blacks than the entire white population of South Africa.

[Cap]

More whites have been brutality murdered in 16 years of 'freedom' than black people in 46 years of 'apartheid' - Apartheid meaning seperate development, NOT oppression.

You've got to be kidding !!! Total crap. Apartheid = government on basis of institutionalised, constitutional racism, basic racialised inequality enforced through armed oppression. The wars of apartheid - through the 1970s and 1980s especially - killed more blacks than the entire white population of South Africa.

Too much CNN coppertime?

[CopperLine]

More whites have been brutality murdered in 16 years of 'freedom' than black people in 46 years of 'apartheid' - Apartheid meaning seperate development, NOT oppression.

You've got to be kidding !!! Total crap. Apartheid = government on basis of institutionalised, constitutional racism, basic racialised inequality enforced through armed oppression. The wars of apartheid - through the 1970s and 1980s especially - killed more blacks than the entire white population of South Africa.

Too much CNN coppertime?

What's that got to do with anything ? (I don't watch CNN).

[Oracle]

There are absolutely no reasons for maintaining Apartheid systems, in this day and age.

Pleased to see Viewpoint aligns himself with the illegitimate, white supremacist rulers of South Africa who can only now demonstrate a right to live in South Africa by accepting modern democracy and human rights and cutting the crap about demanding special privileges!

[SpartanGamer]

We whites have enslaved and abused africans for hundreds of years. And if anyone says "ooo when was that?" here's your answer: OVER 200 YEARS OF SLAVERY!!! HATED STILL AFTER SLAVERY WAS ABOLISHED!!! I am saying this because I don't like human suffering (i adore it in films and games though)

[CopperLine]

SA is not a good comparison with Cyprus if you are looking at the causes of the problems or how the respective systems developed, but it might be a useful example for comparison regarding the negotiation of transition from one system to another and subsequent reconciliation efforts (regardless of whether they were not wholly successful).

[Oracle]

Copper speaking out of his ... again!

The solution to South African Apartheid and the ongoing path to the Cyprus Problem share few parallels due to the re-invasion and recolonisation by the supremacist enslaving rulers (Turks) who have now placed the Cyprus Problem on a stratospheric course of inhumanity. But, the initialisation/seeding of Apartheid in Cyprus shares many parallels with South Africa. The Ottomans, like the White supremacists, initially invaded hundreds of years ago and have been ruling as a priviliged minority for an overly long time.

Like the South Africans (of long mixed history), the GCs have never invaded to colonise the lands of others -- unlike the white supremacist/Turks have done. Of course, some smart Alec might find an African tribe which invaded the territory of an other, but this would only serve to prove how amazingly decent the GCs have proven themselves to be in not even doing this.

So the main difference, of course, remains how tolerant and non-demonstrative, for their human rights, the GCs seem to be. Even Nobel Prize-winning Mandela supported violent protest.