Kikapu wrote:YFred wrote:Kikapu wrote:YFred wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Kikapu wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:There are times when the majority opinion does not demand respect but contempt..Once upon a time Slavery was considered natural by the majority of Americans...Once upon a time Aboriginal Australians did not have the right to vote,and this was okey by the majority of Australians...One upon a time Hitler's expansionism was applauded by the majority of Germans...Majorities do not always get it right,and sometimes they get it very wrong indeed...If you strongly believe the majority opinion is disasterous for your country,you would be a shallow hypocrite to respect that opinion...If everyone "respected" majority opinions all the time,and shut up and resign themselves to their fate,the world would not be what it is today....
The only problem with your examples, Bir, is the fact that those events were not decided by the majority in a Democratic way. Democracy means everyone being able to take part in the voting system, in which the decision made by the majority should then be respected, providing it does not violate anyone's Democratic, Constitution and Human Rights. If and when the above principles are violated with a majority vote taken Democratically, then we should expect the supreme courts as an independent body to strike down such majority vote as being unconstitutional.
I don't think 2004 Referendum on the AP violated any of the above principles. The majority said NO for the GCs and the majority said YES for the TCs, which they should both be respected as such. If all the YES votes and all the NO votes were to be added together from both sides, as a percentage, the NO votes won by 55.5%-44.5%. You cannot get anymore democratic than that.!!
The problem is Kikapu people tend to respect those majority decisions they agree with,and anybody who dare to question their wisdom get accused to all sorts of things as you know well...The truth is very few things in Cyprus history have been decided by the majority in a democratic way...The ENOSIS plebisit organised by the GO Church was hardly democratic...Neither was the way the RoC government was comandeered by the GCs...Nor was the Akritas plan,nor was the Sampson coup etc...This new found respect for democracy and human rights amongst certain Cypriots are a little too late...having said that I have no problem respecting the majority GC decision to vote NO in the referandum...As long as they respect my human and democratic right to shoot them down for it,metaphorically speaking...
I'll go along with that so long as they also accept the democratic decision of the TCs in the northern lands. No ifs and no buts.
Then it will be solved.
You do mean the settlers, surely.??
No. Read what I said. No ifs and no buts. Where does it say settlers?
Well, I tried to help you out, but you are determined to sound stupid, so go at it, G-Fred.!
Who is sounding stupid and who is sounding realist Kickapoo. Take you head out of that cloud nine for a few seconds and take a deep breath in the real world. It'll do you good.
If you think you can reverse the clock back to 1960, I'll join you but try as you may the time travel has not been invented. Unless you know otherwise.
