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[halil]

The German member of the European Parliament Peter Paul Gantzer has been received by TRNC President Dervis Eroglu.
During yesterday’s meeting, Gantzer said that the isolation on the Cyprus Turkish People is a human rights violation. Gantzer, who also served as the Vice-President of the Bavarian Parliament for six years, said that he found it difficult to believe what he heard during a visit he paid to South Cyprus two years ago and that he asked the TRNC Honorary Representative in Germany to organize a similar visit to the TRNC.

Noting that the aim of his visits was to learn the views of the two sides, the Euro MP said he was surprised to see that there are no direct flights to North Cyprus and realized the fact that the Cyprus Turkish People is living under isolation, which he described as a human rights violation.

“All humans in the world are equal but not in Cyprus” he said, adding that he will be explaining the realities of Cyprus to the people of Germany once he returns.

For his part, President Eroglu pointed out that the German MEP decided to visit the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus after thinking that the Cyprus propaganda of the Greek Cypriot Side was not accurate.

.......... He didn't know............ vowwww........... :!:

[Piratis]

Probably he doesn't even know that the so called "trnc" is a result of foreign invasion, the ethnic cleansing of the majority of the native population and their replacement with Anatolian Settlers. Maybe he also doesn't know that this so called "trnc" is declared as legally invalid with a UN resolution and that Republic of Cyprus is the one and only state in Cyprus and encompasses the whole island.

Keeping people out of their own homes and properties at gun point is what constitutes a human rights violation. People of a state having to use the legal ports and airports of that state is perfectly normal and what happens in all other countries. Where did he see the human rights violations in this?

[B25]

Perhaps he also didn't know of the war crimes, aka violation of the 4th Geneva convention on colonisation of the forcefully occupied areas, perhaps he didn't know about the 50 outstanding UN resolutions that Turkey has ignored, perhaps he didn't know about the recent ECJ judgement declaring the rightful owners prevented returning to their properties by the Turkish armed forces, perhaps he didn't know about the Farcicle ECHR ruling giving the invader power to judge the rightful owners their properties, perhaps he didn't know that direct flights are forbidded under the Chicago convention and that it has been rejected for the last 36 years, perhaps he didn't know that Turkey has embargoed the GCs by not opening its ports and airports as she AGREED to do so, perhaps he didn't know a shed load more things.

But Halil and ther pseudo state were not going to tell him, were they.

Morons, your propoganda shit is getting you no where, because everytime you come out with it there is always factual evidence to knock it down.
perhaps I will email Mr Gantzer with all the above and see how surprised he really was. Did you offer him some stolen GC property btw, your usual tactic to gain outside support.

[Gasman]

If you really believe that the German member of the European Parliament is unaware of all those matters, perhaps you would be better contacting all your 8 Cyprus members of the European Parliament and everyone else at the European Commission in Cyprus to make sure they enlighten the German members -

http://ec.europa.eu/cyprus/about_us/con ... dex_en.htm

If unaware of the embargoes in place against TRNC and Turkey, perhaps they are also unaware of the Turkish blockade against Cyprus shipping (blockades are considered by most to be 'acts of war')

[DT.]

If you really believe that the German member of the European Parliament is unaware of all those matters, perhaps you would be better contacting all your 8 Cyprus members of the European Parliament and everyone else at the European Commission in Cyprus to make sure they enlighten the German members -

http://ec.europa.eu/cyprus/about_us/con ... dex_en.htm

If unaware of the embargoes in place against TRNC and Turkey, perhaps they are also unaware of the Turkish blockade against Cyprus shipping (blockades are considered by most to be 'acts of war')

6 MEP's

[Gasman]

Is it 6? Thank you for the correction. Still, six MPs to contact to make representations on your behalf in a country the size of Cyprus isn't bad is it?

[B25]

If you really believe that the German member of the European Parliament is unaware of all those matters, perhaps you would be better contacting all your 8 Cyprus members of the European Parliament and everyone else at the European Commission in Cyprus to make sure they enlighten the German members -

http://ec.europa.eu/cyprus/about_us/con ... dex_en.htm

If unaware of the embargoes in place against TRNC and Turkey, perhaps they are also unaware of the Turkish blockade against Cyprus shipping (blockades are considered by most to be 'acts of war')

Madam Gasman, we don't beleive the Germans are that thick, the 'trnc' likes to think that, Halil likes to sensationalise such rubbish and we were just highlighting the stupidity of such a posting.

I am sure the MEPs know all about the crimes Turkey and the 'trnc' have and are still committing.

Cheers.

[Gasman]

Madam Gasman, we don't beleive the Germans are that thick the 'trnc' likes to think that, Halil likes to sensationalise such rubbish

It was Piratis, not Halil who said:

Probably he doesn't even know that the so called "trnc" is a result of foreign invasion, the ethnic cleansing of the majority of the native population and their replacement with Anatolian Settlers. Maybe he also doesn't know that this so called "trnc" is declared as legally invalid with a UN resolution and that Republic of Cyprus is the one and only state in Cyprus and encompasses the whole island.

The crux of the matter would seem, to me, to be whether this German EMP did or did not say said he was surprised to see that there are no direct flights to North Cyprus and realized the fact that the Cyprus Turkish People is living under isolation, which he described as a human rights violation. And whether the quote attributed to him “All humans in the world are equal but not in Cyprus” is genuine or not. And whether he did add that he will be explaining the realities of Cyprus to the people of Germany once he returns.

Or whether Halil just made it all up as 'sensationalist rubbish'.

PS - I don't believe the Germans are at all 'thick'.

[Gasman]

This has been reported in all sorts of places. However, the exact wording of the Gantzer 'quote' seems to change quite a bit. An example here:

There were things that were said by Greek Cypriots that I found difficult to
believe and, as such, I decided to visit the TRNC, Gantzer said.

I wanted to hear what the two sides had to say. I was shocked to see that
there were no direct flights to the TRNC and that the country was left under
isolations, Gantzer said.

The situation in Cyprus is against human rights. All humans in the world are
equal but this is not the case in Cyprus, Gantzer said.

When I return back to Germany, I will tell the people there that most things
said on Cyprus did not represent the truth, Gantzer also said.

It would be interesting to know exactly what he DID say. The actual wording, nothing added or omitted, nothing embellished or 'lost in translation'.

[B25]

Madam Gasman, we don't beleive the Germans are that thick the 'trnc' likes to think that, Halil likes to sensationalise such rubbish

It was Piratis, not Halil who said:

Probably he doesn't even know that the so called "trnc" is a result of foreign invasion, the ethnic cleansing of the majority of the native population and their replacement with Anatolian Settlers. Maybe he also doesn't know that this so called "trnc" is declared as legally invalid with a UN resolution and that Republic of Cyprus is the one and only state in Cyprus and encompasses the whole island.

The crux of the matter would seem, to me, to be whether this German EMP did or did not say said he was surprised to see that there are no direct flights to North Cyprus and realized the fact that the Cyprus Turkish People is living under isolation, which he described as a human rights violation. And whether the quote attributed to him “All humans in the world are equal but not in Cyprus” is genuine or not. And whether he did add that he will be explaining the realities of Cyprus to the people of Germany once he returns.

Or whether Halil just made it all up as 'sensationalist rubbish'.

PS - I don't believe the Germans are at all 'thick'.

Good we are saying the samething then.

Piratis comments were just sarcasm to the 'apparently' not knowing certain obvious international things on Cyprus.

Thats how I also understood it, as it was made out that the Germans were 'shocked' at all these goings on and they had no clue.

And yes you are correct, we will never know if what was printed was what was actually said, now I'm getting dizzy.