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GERMAN MEP GANTZER ''SUPRISED''..............?????????

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby BirKibrisli » Tue May 18, 2010 1:51 am

This thread proves once again that the spirit of ENOSIS is alive and well amongst certain GC forumers...The bloody-minded,stubborn spirit which says in Cyprus what the GCs want shall happen 100% or else we will blow up the whole Goddamn place...Pitiful and pathetic,that is all I can say... :(

Future historians will shake their heads in disbelief at how a whole,supposedly civilised , community can develop such a strong hatred and an irresistable wish for revenge towards the other(smaller) community, which eventually translated into a self-fulfilling death wish... :( :(
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Postby Kikapu » Tue May 18, 2010 12:15 pm

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Which brings us to the subject of (what I always asked in this forum) - for what purpose do the GCs want their fellow countrymen TCs depend solely on trade with Turkey only, use Turkish Airlines only. and rely solely on Turkiye for their economic and social existence? In terms of being a financial burden it is a srtaw in a haystack for Turkey. Meanwhile the economic pressure on some TCs will encourage more of them to leave the North for foreign land - to be replaced by the not so well off mainland Turkish substitutes who really do not give a damn about the economics of the island. SO! While GCs defend their stupid stubborn embargo ideas any possibility of a Federal Republic is fast diminishing and a real partition is becoming inevitable...

BTW is Turkiye complaining? They are not losing on anything because of any embargoes in North Cyprus - on the contrary the GCs in South are begging for their ships to be allowed to use Turkish ports, and Cyprus Airways to be allowed to use the Turkish airspace. Is Turkiye bothered.

Get real! If you do try and get real for a change you will see that Cyorus Airways made a loss of 3.28 million Euros last year. And guess what? The same CA is claiming it cost them 3 million EU last year to go around the Turkish airspace for flights to Central Europe and Russia! So it seems the very survival of the national airline in the South is depending on the ongoing deadlock about the embargoes...


Meanwhile the economic pressure on some TCs will encourage more of them to leave the North for foreign land - to be replaced by the not so well off mainland Turkish substitutes who really do not give a damn about the economics of the island.


Nice to have you back, BigOz,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you boasting how well the conditions in the north were couple of years ago, economically and politically, where according to you, the TCs in diaspora were coming back to their new country of "trnc" in droves. You even claimed that several members of your extended family members had returned from Australia, and all of them professional people, no less. So what has changed in the last 2 years that now you are saying that the TCs are encouraged to leave the north because it lacks of economic opportunities. Now, I believe the latter to be true. I just can't get my head around as to how it could have been also true 2 years ago.!
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue May 18, 2010 4:02 pm

C'mon isn't it obvious? There was an expectation that more freedoms would develop as south and north would hammer out differences as initiatives launched would provide opportunities. From the Orams case to the constant lobbying against holding anything in the north chocked of the green shoots that had formed.
As a result TCs again found opportunities were not as real to draw them in, the local kids look for further education abroad and the brain drain continues.
GC objective of suffocating TCs is getting rid of the quality TCs and their less opportune jobs are being taken up by immigrants from Turkey.
I thought all this was obvious but hey perhaps you spend more time looking to take a swipe than actually thinking about the posts.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 18, 2010 4:13 pm

Acikgoz wrote:GC objective of suffocating TCs...

Kindly cease suffocating our properties with your presence where you don't belong...
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue May 18, 2010 4:18 pm

Just go to the IPC, get some cash or an exchange or your property back.
How are you getting on with giving us our properties back? No progress yet we see! As TCs we don't believe you don't belong, but you seem to feel that we don't belong see the bias and the rub.
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Postby B25 » Tue May 18, 2010 4:19 pm

Acikgoz wrote:C'mon isn't it obvious? There was an expectation that more freedoms would develop as south and north would hammer out differences as initiatives launched would provide opportunities. From the Orams case to the constant lobbying against holding anything in the north chocked of the green shoots that had formed.
As a result TCs again found opportunities were not as real to draw them in, the local kids look for further education abroad and the brain drain continues.
GC objective of suffocating TCs is getting rid of the quality TCs and their less opportune jobs are being taken up by immigrants from Turkey.I thought all this was obvious but hey perhaps you spend more time looking to take a swipe than actually thinking about the posts.


Take up your issues with your motherland and don't blame us. You brought them here, you bloody well deal with it.

Cheek, you create a self made problem and you want to blame others for it.

So, what you don't like it the fact that we are not helping the TCs to maintain hold of our propoerty and rights, is that what you are saying????

Your expectations are unreasonable.
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue May 18, 2010 4:30 pm

Hey I have no problem with people settling in the north, the wheel keeps turning. It appears all GCs that blog on here have a problem with it though, the point being that it is a situation directly related to the actions taken by the GC politicians.

I have a problem with the isolation that means TCs cannot find opportunities in their homeland due to the maximalist tendencies of the GC politicians.

Your actions are unreasonable.
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Postby DT. » Tue May 18, 2010 5:15 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Hey I have no problem with people settling in the north, the wheel keeps turning. It appears all GCs that blog on here have a problem with it though, the point being that it is a situation directly related to the actions taken by the GC politicians.

I have a problem with the isolation that means TCs cannot find opportunities in their homeland due to the maximalist tendencies of the GC politicians.

Your actions are unreasonable.


So retract this idiotic quest for state recognition, remove the risk we have that you will only use free trade to promote partition and we can talk.
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue May 18, 2010 5:34 pm

Allow free trade so we can believe that you don't just want us to suffer for the sins of all Cypriots and that we can more forward as mutually respecting people.
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Postby B25 » Tue May 18, 2010 5:42 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Hey I have no problem with people settling in the north, the wheel keeps turning. It appears all GCs that blog on here have a problem with it though, the point being that it is a situation directly related to the actions taken by the GC politicians.

I have a problem with the isolation that means TCs cannot find opportunities in their homeland due to the maximalist tendencies of the GC politicians.

Your actions are unreasonable.


Dude, read what you just said, you have no problem with the illegal immigrant turks, but they bother you because your TC buddies have a problem getting a job. Tell us what high paid, high advanced jobs exist in 'trnc' that your compatriots can't get??

You lost this argument for sure.

Again i say, your illegal immigrants, your problem, deal with it, not our fault.

You have to take the rough with the smooth, you get Turkey to invade and kill, murder and rape us, well now you have to bloody well put up with the costs of it (aka Illegal immigrants)

Cheers, next!
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